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"If you want it bad, you get it bad" applies in a big way when the "it" is a nuclear weapon.
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That would likely be the first direct attack by a nuclear capable nation on another nuclear capable nation. I'm sure there have been, uh, skirmishes between India and Pakistan at their borders and likewise between India and China, but Iran and Israel have no such situation. This would be a military attack on a military installation with the goal of crippling the Iranian military, aka, open war.
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Israel and Iran have been trading blows for years - I'm not sure that Israel going after nuke facilities would be a whole lot different.
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That would likely be the first direct attack by a nuclear capable nation on another nuclear capable nation. I'm sure there have been, uh, skirmishes between India and Pakistan at their borders and likewise between India and China, but Iran and Israel have no such situation. This would be a military attack on a military installation with the goal of crippling the Iranian military, aka, open war.
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Was that a country with an operational nuclear weapon?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operat...uclear_program
Unless you mean the attack by Israel on the French workers.
In a 2003 speech, Richard Wilson, a professor of physics at Harvard University who visually inspected the partially damaged reactor in December 1982, said that "to collect enough plutonium [for a nuclear weapon] using Osirak would've taken decades, not years". In 2005, Wilson further commented in The Atlantic: "The Osirak reactor that was bombed by Israel in June 1981 was explicitly designed by the French engineer Yves Girard to be unsuitable for making bombs. That was obvious to me on my 1982 visit". Elsewhere Wilson has stated that contrary to claims that the bombing of the Iraqi Osirak reactor delayed Iraq's nuclear bomb program, the Iraqi nuclear program before 1981 was peaceful, and the Osirak reactor was not only unsuited to making bombs but was under intensive safeguards.
In an interview in 2012, Wilson again emphasised: "The Iraqis couldn't have been developing a nuclear weapon at Osirak. I challenge any scientist in the world to show me how they could have done so."
In an interview in 2012, Wilson again emphasised: "The Iraqis couldn't have been developing a nuclear weapon at Osirak. I challenge any scientist in the world to show me how they could have done so."
Unless you mean the attack by Israel on the French workers.
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"They have been grinding away at getting a bomb for some years now. I don't think that they are going to rush anything."
Quite a few sources indicate they are very close to breakout if they choose to go that route.
Quite a few sources indicate they are very close to breakout if they choose to go that route.
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This is the new thing to fret about this month, is it? Iran is suddenly barely days away from developing nuclear capability?
Isn't it at all questionable how these stories just materialise overnight? One month ago literally nobody was talking about Iran's nuclear capability.
Now the bombers have been staged and all of a sudden the justification is materialising from the ether 'well they're about to develop a bomb.' Odd how the timing of that matches the US leadership change perfectly.
It's pure manufactured consent.
It's exactly like GW2, Bush Jr gets in and all of a sudden Iraq needs to be hit because they're 'about to...' whatever it was... and it was pure fiction!
History always repeats itself and nobody seems to learn any lessons. The dog, is wagged.
At least back then we had the 'dodgy dossier' so the complicit can be shamed after the fact. Now it's just 'yeah some guy on twitter said so.' And 'that guy' is probably just some AI ragebot.
List the sources. List the viable and reputable intelligence sources that say that Iran is 'very close to breakout' on this topic.
Isn't it at all questionable how these stories just materialise overnight? One month ago literally nobody was talking about Iran's nuclear capability.
Now the bombers have been staged and all of a sudden the justification is materialising from the ether 'well they're about to develop a bomb.' Odd how the timing of that matches the US leadership change perfectly.
It's pure manufactured consent.
It's exactly like GW2, Bush Jr gets in and all of a sudden Iraq needs to be hit because they're 'about to...' whatever it was... and it was pure fiction!
History always repeats itself and nobody seems to learn any lessons. The dog, is wagged.
At least back then we had the 'dodgy dossier' so the complicit can be shamed after the fact. Now it's just 'yeah some guy on twitter said so.' And 'that guy' is probably just some AI ragebot.
List the sources. List the viable and reputable intelligence sources that say that Iran is 'very close to breakout' on this topic.
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This is the new thing to fret about this month, is it? Iran is suddenly barely days away from developing nuclear capability?
Isn't it at all questionable how these stories just materialise overnight? One month ago literally nobody was talking about Iran's nuclear capability.
Now the bombers have been staged and all of a sudden the justification is materialising from the ether 'well they're about to develop a bomb.' Odd how the timing of that matches the US leadership change perfectly.
Isn't it at all questionable how these stories just materialise overnight? One month ago literally nobody was talking about Iran's nuclear capability.
Now the bombers have been staged and all of a sudden the justification is materialising from the ether 'well they're about to develop a bomb.' Odd how the timing of that matches the US leadership change perfectly.
It's just no one else wanted to talk too loudly about it.
The dog, is wagged.
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From: Jupiter
It seems to be an unspoken rule of geopolitics that, if you're able to develop and pop off a nuke, you're in the club and nobody will attack you, they'll just rattle sabers. Which is why so many countries want one.
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From: Ferrara
"Isn't it at all questionable how these stories just materialise overnight? One month ago literally nobody was talking about Iran's nuclear capability."
Or try Wikipedia - they list regular updates by a wide variety of international institutions
Or say the Economist - again regular reports on how much and what grade of weapons material Iran is likely to have.
"It seems to be an unspoken rule of geopolitics that, if you're able to develop and pop off a nuke, you're in the club and nobody will attack you"
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Things appear to be quickly moving along with Iran and the US. There are various press reports covering it all.
Yesterday Iran ordered their people to withdraw from Yemen and at the same time Trump was telling the press that he is not willing to speak with Iran through a third party but is only willing to do so face to face.
It is likely that Netanyahu will come to DC next week which some feel is significant especially when keeping in mind that the US is moving significant and heavy hitting hardware into the arena.
Some news outlets seem to feel that this is the beginning of a serious escalation of matters between Israel and the US against the Houthis ,Hamas, and Iran.
The general feeling is that Israel to go in a finish off Hamas and that the US will also at the same time totally destroy the Houthis.
The Iranians will then be left in a totally naked and almost defenseless position. The Iranians know that the US will totally destroy the economy and if the Iranians wants to fight it seems that the US and Israel will strike hard from two sides.They have little other choice other than to talk to the US.
Trump is also indicating that he is in quite regular communication with the Chinese and the Russians.
I'm inclined to think that we could be in for some fireworks soon.
Yesterday Iran ordered their people to withdraw from Yemen and at the same time Trump was telling the press that he is not willing to speak with Iran through a third party but is only willing to do so face to face.
It is likely that Netanyahu will come to DC next week which some feel is significant especially when keeping in mind that the US is moving significant and heavy hitting hardware into the arena.
Some news outlets seem to feel that this is the beginning of a serious escalation of matters between Israel and the US against the Houthis ,Hamas, and Iran.
The general feeling is that Israel to go in a finish off Hamas and that the US will also at the same time totally destroy the Houthis.
The Iranians will then be left in a totally naked and almost defenseless position. The Iranians know that the US will totally destroy the economy and if the Iranians wants to fight it seems that the US and Israel will strike hard from two sides.They have little other choice other than to talk to the US.
Trump is also indicating that he is in quite regular communication with the Chinese and the Russians.
I'm inclined to think that we could be in for some fireworks soon.
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Things appear to be quickly moving along with Iran and the US. There are various press reports covering it all.
Yesterday Iran ordered their people to withdraw from Yemen and at the same time Trump was telling the press that he is not willing to speak with Iran through a third party but is only willing to do so face to face.
It is likely that Netanyahu will come to DC next week which some feel is significant especially when keeping in mind that the US is moving significant and heavy hitting hardware into the arena.
Some news outlets seem to feel that this is the beginning of a serious escalation of matters between Israel and the US against the Houthis ,Hamas, and Iran.
The general feeling is that Israel to go in a finish off Hamas and that the US will also at the same time totally destroy the Houthis.
The Iranians will then be left in a totally naked and almost defenseless position. The Iranians know that the US will totally destroy the economy and if the Iranians wants to fight it seems that the US and Israel will strike hard from two sides.They have little other choice other than to talk to the US.
Trump is also indicating that he is in quite regular communication with the Chinese and the Russians.
I'm inclined to think that we could be in for some fireworks soon.
Yesterday Iran ordered their people to withdraw from Yemen and at the same time Trump was telling the press that he is not willing to speak with Iran through a third party but is only willing to do so face to face.
It is likely that Netanyahu will come to DC next week which some feel is significant especially when keeping in mind that the US is moving significant and heavy hitting hardware into the arena.
Some news outlets seem to feel that this is the beginning of a serious escalation of matters between Israel and the US against the Houthis ,Hamas, and Iran.
The general feeling is that Israel to go in a finish off Hamas and that the US will also at the same time totally destroy the Houthis.
The Iranians will then be left in a totally naked and almost defenseless position. The Iranians know that the US will totally destroy the economy and if the Iranians wants to fight it seems that the US and Israel will strike hard from two sides.They have little other choice other than to talk to the US.
Trump is also indicating that he is in quite regular communication with the Chinese and the Russians.
I'm inclined to think that we could be in for some fireworks soon.
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If the Iranians pull their guys back into Iran that will probably end things for the Houthis without their support and expertise but to say that the US will then decide to go into Iran is a stretch. Likewise I don't see Israel going into Iran unless it's a specific targeted action against a nuclear site. Too many of the cities are holy and they respect each other's holy places. Mostly.