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Old 13th June 2025 | 11:30
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What we are seeing is inevitable. Iran was developing nuclear weapons and would have used them. Israel is doing what the west was afraid to do.
Codswallop. North Korea has nuclear weapons. As does Russia, yet the only nation who has used them in anger remains to be the United States.
It's a bit more complicated

Iran has threatened Israel with total destuction - it is their stated aim

Israel has prevented that since 1948 - in various ways

If Iran gets the 'bomb' it won't just be Israel who is in the potential firinf line

Saudi Arabia, Kuwait et al will not be happy with that - but they do not have the capacity to stop that process

Only the US or Israel can militarily prevent that happening

It is better to stop them getting the 'bomb' than trying to prevent them from using it

Many countries have tested their bombs to demonstrate that the have the capability

It is unfortunate that the US chose to 'test' theirs on live subjects - but they were different times

​​​​​​​Just my thoughts on a very long running subject ...
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There's been a long running belief that Saudi (and Taiwan, S Korea & Japan) has the knowledge to build a bomb quite quickly - and of course they have the $$$$ as well
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Old 13th June 2025 | 11:59
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There's been a long running belief that Saudi (and Taiwan, S Korea & Japan) has the knowledge to build a bomb quite quickly - and of course they have the $$$$ as well
Has any country built a bomb quickly - it is believed it took South Africa 20 years and that was with the help of Israel

I wonder where they are now?
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Old 13th June 2025 | 12:43
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The top Iranian Air Force gathered to plan a missile attack on Israel and was eliminated during the meeting. - Mossad Commentary (not official account)

On the strikes against IRGC Air Force leadership: Israel tricked the top command of Iran’s air force into a meeting and then kept them there, I’m told by an Israeli security official. “We did specific activities to help us understand things about them and then used that information to make them act in a specific way,” the official said. “We knew this would make them meet, but more importantly we knew how to keep them there.” - Fox News - Trey Yingst Chief Foreign Correspondent (on ground in Israel)
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Old 13th June 2025 | 12:50
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Mossad behind the lines
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F-15A/C Baz carrying GBU-31(V) 2000-lb JDAMs


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F-16Is armed with 2 AIM-9L/M & 2 x Python 4 (4th Gen / all-aspect / Helmet Mounted Sight capability)

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Each F-16I can be seen armed with a max fuel tank loadout, (likely) 8x GBU-39 SDB glide bombs, and 2x AIM-120B AMRAAMs. 48 glide bombs in this image.







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Bushehr - main port in Iran hit

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President Trump's Security Council Meeting in the White House Situation Room due to start at 1100 EDT / 1500Z
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Old 13th June 2025 | 14:32
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Not a lot of use if they're trapped inside because the entrances have been blocked

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US destroyers being ordered to the Eastern Med - starting with Arleigh-Burke Flight IIA Technology Insertion Class USS Thomas Hudner with 96 x VLS cells for the full range of SAMs including SM-3 ABM
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