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From: Falling off the end of the thread
A new Ipsos/Reuters poll of 1,139 U.S. adults reveals sharp divisions over America’s next steps in the Middle East. 79% worry Iran may target U.S. civilians after airstrikes. President Trump’s approval rating has also dropped to 41%—the lowest of his current term.
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Ecce Homo! Loquitur...
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He really is after that Nobel Peace prize - not sure he realises bombing the xxxx out if nuclear reprocessing sites isn’t the at to get it…..
A White House official told me that Trump's goal now is to end the war and he is going to make it clear to Israeli prime minister Benjamin Netanyahu. "We want a deal and don't want any more war", the official said.
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From: Beyond the Blue Horizon
With regards to optics as mentioned above I am not sure Mr Trump is aware of the phrase as a little like Mr Putin they have started something that I am not sure they know how to stop, but would love to be proved wrong.
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From: Falling off the end of the thread
It looks like just us two Mr Mac are not gung-ho and believe you cannot bomb your way to peace, the best thing the US could have done was to have stayed out of it and left it to the Israeli’s.
It will have repercussions, maybe not today or tomorrow, but repercussions there will be.
It will have repercussions, maybe not today or tomorrow, but repercussions there will be.
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From: Darkest Lincs
According to the BBC, Iran told Qatar exactly when the missiles were to be fired and what the target was. A total of six missiles were fired (DT was never any good at maths) and all were destroyed. Probably the worst retaliation in history, but, as mentioned earlier, the attack was more for internal political optics rather than to cause damage.
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Ecce Homo! Loquitur...
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I wonder if anyone has told Iran and the IRGC
Iranian TV today…. Video
Iranian TV today…. Video
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From: Falling off the end of the thread
CONGRATULATIONS TO EVERYONE! It has been fully agreed by and between Israel and Iran that there will be a Complete and Total CEASEFIRE (in approximately 6 hours from now, when Israel and Iran have wound down and completed their in progress, final missions!), for 12 hours, at which point the War will be considered, ENDED! Officially,
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From: Texas
You are a habitual Yank-basher, Nutty, yes, but quite frankly I share your cynicism.
Also, when DJT wakes up tomorrow morning, he may have changed his mind.
Stay tuned to this channel! Mr Trump has exported his domestic reality TV show, broadcast from the White House, to the entire world.
The show's sponsors will soon be issuing their commercials in Farsi with English subtitles.
Also, when DJT wakes up tomorrow morning, he may have changed his mind.
Stay tuned to this channel! Mr Trump has exported his domestic reality TV show, broadcast from the White House, to the entire world.
The show's sponsors will soon be issuing their commercials in Farsi with English subtitles.
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From: Here 'n' there!
On the face of it, yes. Of course, interesting that Trump doesn't seem to wish to use that "skill" to get Putin out of Ukraine.
Yes I know there's a seperate Thread for that War but just looking at why one War deserves "sorting" and yet another, much longer running one, only kept his interest for a few weeks before he gave up and, presumably, placing it in the "it's all too difficult" bin.
Not expecting any profound observations aside from my thought that, for Trump, bolstering his own ego is more important than stopping bloodshed. Or is that just the cynic in me?
Anyway, just something to ponder on......
Yes I know there's a seperate Thread for that War but just looking at why one War deserves "sorting" and yet another, much longer running one, only kept his interest for a few weeks before he gave up and, presumably, placing it in the "it's all too difficult" bin.
Not expecting any profound observations aside from my thought that, for Trump, bolstering his own ego is more important than stopping bloodshed. Or is that just the cynic in me?
Anyway, just something to ponder on......
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From: Nevada, USA
Diplomat briefed on the ceasefire talks to Fox News:
"President Trump spoke with Qatar’s Emir and informed him the U.S. got Israel to agree to a ceasefire with Iran. The President asked Qatar to help persuade Iran to do the same, following that Vice President Vance coordinated with Qatar’s Prime Minister on the details. This effort proved successful and, following discussions with the Qatari PM, the Iranians agreed. The deal was coordinated at the highest level by the President and Vice President and the Qatari Emir and Prime minister directly."
"Despite having been attacked just hours earlier, the Qataris set aside their grievances and prioritized regional security to get the deal done," the diplomat added.
"President Trump spoke with Qatar’s Emir and informed him the U.S. got Israel to agree to a ceasefire with Iran. The President asked Qatar to help persuade Iran to do the same, following that Vice President Vance coordinated with Qatar’s Prime Minister on the details. This effort proved successful and, following discussions with the Qatari PM, the Iranians agreed. The deal was coordinated at the highest level by the President and Vice President and the Qatari Emir and Prime minister directly."
"Despite having been attacked just hours earlier, the Qataris set aside their grievances and prioritized regional security to get the deal done," the diplomat added.
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From: Japan
Remove any particular hostile intent, and Iran can join the nuclear club tomorrow with no worries to anyone.
With the intent still in place, however, as things now stand, Iran will strive to make more, or go shopping for ready-made from one of their neighbours, P, C, NK, if not R.
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From: West Oz
Genuine question here, ORAC. With all this talk of Iran’s remaining nuclear stockpiles and capabilities, how would anyone really know and if they did why would they tell us?
Is this a case of the media putting on talking heads talking cr@p because it’s better than admitting nobody really knows what’s going on?
Is this a case of the media putting on talking heads talking cr@p because it’s better than admitting nobody really knows what’s going on?
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From: Nanaimo (CAC8)
So seven B2s crossed the Atlantic and then the length of the Mediterranean, threading their way through busy airways all the way and meeting tankers as required.
How did they do that? Did they file fake flight plans, pretending to be civil aircraft? Or did civil radars just turn a Nelsonian blind eye and maneuver civil traffic out of the way?
How did they do that? Did they file fake flight plans, pretending to be civil aircraft? Or did civil radars just turn a Nelsonian blind eye and maneuver civil traffic out of the way?