Ukraine Crisis 2014
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But eastern Ukraine won't be as easy to snare as Crimea, and the attempt could backfire on Mr. Putin. The Russian president is a man in a hurry. Russia has taken advantage of the inevitable chaos and uncertainty in post-revolutionary Kiev. A Moscow ally abandoned the presidency and fled town, and new pro-Western leaders formed a government only last Thursday. With each passing day, they should be getting a better grip over their state. The clock is perhaps their only true friend.
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It could all end in tears.
Putin's fleet has a big issue getting to Suez.
While there's agreements for access through the Bosphorus, there was an agreement about not threatening Ukraine too, so closing it to him would be even.
While there's agreements for access through the Bosphorus, there was an agreement about not threatening Ukraine too, so closing it to him would be even.
Figure the $2 Billion arms deal with Egypt makes it easy....
Just a second source for its comments Nutty.....same reason for the article but an American slant on it.
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Racedo,
There's a treaty not to be aggressive to Ukraine too.
Closing the Bosphorus to Putin's Grey Funnel line sounds fair in return.
Then again, the WTO's response to Putin manipulating the natural gas market might be very sobering for him too.
There's a treaty not to be aggressive to Ukraine too.
Closing the Bosphorus to Putin's Grey Funnel line sounds fair in return.
Then again, the WTO's response to Putin manipulating the natural gas market might be very sobering for him too.
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Lawmaker: Yanukovych asks Russian parliament to help Crimea
The Russian military is there with the approval of the legitimate Ukrainian President.
The Russian military is there with the approval of the legitimate Ukrainian President.
Closing the Bosphorus to Putin's Grey Funnel line sounds fair in return.
Then again, the WTO's response to Putin manipulating the natural gas market might be very sobering for him too.
Then again, the WTO's response to Putin manipulating the natural gas market might be very sobering for him too.
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The ousted pseudo-dictator with more duck houses than the whole House of Commons, removed by the legislature after protests against his corruption lead to completely unjustified violence, is whining to his puppetmaster that he'd like his job back? Or perhaps to become King of Crimea, since Ukraine won't take him back.
Isn't the mantra "The Russian military is there to safeguard Russian minority during this uncertain time". Is your songsheet broken?
Isn't the mantra "The Russian military is there to safeguard Russian minority during this uncertain time". Is your songsheet broken?
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And I suppose it's part of the democratic constitution he was elected under to shoot your citizens in cold blood too, let's not forget that was the turning point in his career. He was elected to run the country, not murder those members of it.
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Yes, he was elected in 2010, and he was removed under the rule of law in 2014.
Turkey's case is now stronger.
Maybe they can throw these recent farm export obstructions into the WTO while they're looking at Putin's price manipulation in the natural gas market?
Turkey's case is now stronger.
Maybe they can throw these recent farm export obstructions into the WTO while they're looking at Putin's price manipulation in the natural gas market?
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I'm wondering if any thought has been given by people about the poor b@rstards who are doing their duty and are totally isolated. It would have to be extremely stressful cut off like that.
Wonder if a International contingent could escort those who want leave out?
kraine's lawmaker Viktor Chumak has said 22 Ukrainian units in Crimea are still guarding their bases, Ukraine's Espreso TV reports.
I'm wondering if any thought has been given by people about the poor b@rstards who are doing their duty and are totally isolated. It would have to be extremely stressful cut off like that.
Wonder if a International contingent could escort those who want leave out?
Ecce Homo! Loquitur...
BBC pointing out that Russian forces in Crimea are a bit of a bluff - 6000 lightly armed airborne forces flown in with a few BMPs along with the navy marines. Meanwhile the Ukrainian army in their barracks have awl the heavy armour - tanks and artillery - on the peninsula. Ukraine also occupies all land access routes. If they stay loyal it could be messy. Think "A Bridge Too Far".
Army vs Black Sea fleet guns - how long to make sail or be sunk at anchor by howitzer of tank fire from the shore?
Army vs Black Sea fleet guns - how long to make sail or be sunk at anchor by howitzer of tank fire from the shore?
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I think the West is going to end up looking a bit silly in this. Russia has morale authority here since Yanukovych invited them in. The Russians have come in with a small force appropriate to the mission of protecting civilians and stabilising the Crimea.
On the other hand, we are trying to prop up a mob who ousted a democratically elected President, broadcasting laughable mob propaganda that Russia is threatening to attack, and now threatening sanctions that will affect our own economies as much as Russia's.
We'd be better off agreeing to help the Russians sort it out. At least we would then have some say in the future shape of Ukraine.
On the other hand, we are trying to prop up a mob who ousted a democratically elected President, broadcasting laughable mob propaganda that Russia is threatening to attack, and now threatening sanctions that will affect our own economies as much as Russia's.
We'd be better off agreeing to help the Russians sort it out. At least we would then have some say in the future shape of Ukraine.
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If W invited Mexico to guard San Diego would Americans be happy?
Or if Gordon Brown invited Belgium to guard Dover?
While they left at the end of a natural term, if they'd been impeached/lost a no-confidence vote, if would be no different.
The Ukrainians have the say in the future of Ukraine, and the Crimeans in the future of Crimea.
Or if Gordon Brown invited Belgium to guard Dover?
While they left at the end of a natural term, if they'd been impeached/lost a no-confidence vote, if would be no different.
The Ukrainians have the say in the future of Ukraine, and the Crimeans in the future of Crimea.
Sounds familiar, what did Cameron and Hague do about this headline of 3yrs ago?
Hundreds of Saudi troops have entered Bahrain to help protect government facilities there amid escalating protests against the government.
Bahrain television on Monday broadcast images of troops in armoured cars entering the Gulf state via the 26km causeway that connects the kingdom to Saudi Arabia.
The arrival of the troops follows a request to members of the Gulf Co-Operation Council (GCC) from Bahrain, whose Sunni rulers have faced weeks of protests and growing pressure from a majority Shia population to institute political reforms.
Hundreds of Saudi troops have entered Bahrain to help protect government facilities there amid escalating protests against the government.
Bahrain television on Monday broadcast images of troops in armoured cars entering the Gulf state via the 26km causeway that connects the kingdom to Saudi Arabia.
The arrival of the troops follows a request to members of the Gulf Co-Operation Council (GCC) from Bahrain, whose Sunni rulers have faced weeks of protests and growing pressure from a majority Shia population to institute political reforms.
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Originally Posted by Trim Stab
On the other hand, we are trying to prop up a mob who ousted a democratically elected President,
Originally Posted by Trim Stab
broadcasting laughable mob propaganda that Russia is threatening to attack,
Originally Posted by Trim Stab
We'd be better off agreeing to help the Russians sort it out. At least we would then have some say in the future shape of Ukraine.
How Socialist of you, Komerade.
As I said before - hold a UN-run election, and any oblast (province) which votes for Russia is allowed to secede, and any that votes to remain in Ukraine is allowed to do so.
The new national border is drawn, and that's an end of it!