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Now all they need is some nice glow in the dark flourescent Pink dye to put in the water cannon, so they can pick them up later on, and those they miss won't be seen dead in their ruined pink clothes.
Posted elsewhere which I thought wasn't far from the truth..
Of course one would never condone self protectionism, but oddly enough if you look here
Some of Amazons baseball bat sales are up 26,000 % telescopic truncheons 35,000%
And some of the comments on the items range from
Posted elsewhere which I thought wasn't far from the truth..
Of course one would never condone self protectionism, but oddly enough if you look here
Some of Amazons baseball bat sales are up 26,000 % telescopic truncheons 35,000%
And some of the comments on the items range from
This is the perfect alternative to a society that is progressive that has long banned firearms. It's long cylindrical taper designed is perfect for distributing brain matter of feral youth trying to harm you. It comes with a 30 day money back guarantee to be free from manufacture defects.
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Birmingham military spectacular
Whether you prefer massed marching bands, exciting displays or the spectacular Grand Finale there is something for everyone at the 2011 Christmas Birmingham International Tattoo at The NIA, Birmingham on Saturday 10th December at 6pm and Sunday 11th December at 2pm.
Whether you prefer massed marching bands, exciting displays or the spectacular Grand Finale there is something for everyone at the 2011 Christmas Birmingham International Tattoo at The NIA, Birmingham on Saturday 10th December at 6pm and Sunday 11th December at 2pm.
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From another well-known military forum:-
This is clearly the beginning of the Zombie Armageddon. There can be only one response; kill all within the infected area. Aim for the head!
This is clearly the beginning of the Zombie Armageddon. There can be only one response; kill all within the infected area. Aim for the head!
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Without wishing to fuel the "racist" discussion(?) it's interesting to note that our major cities up here seem (so far at least...I shouldn't tempt providence)to be free from the wanton criminality blighting England. It's also interesting to note that there are relatively few Afro Caribbean ghettos, but plenty of white, and Asian ones! So, why no mindless vandalism, arson, stealing or despicable thuggery on the scale being suffered down south? Perhaps the answer lies in my second sentence.
Before some F*ckwit writes to tell me about the violence and catholic/ protestant nonsense up here.. I know I live just outside Glasgow (and I support "the Jaggies" because it's a non controversial option) Back to topic, policemen I know talk of the copycat syndrome and add that just about all of the troubles originate from or near to a black ghetto and it's only the young blacks who have the balls to start the trouble and the weak spineless whites come out later. That seems to link in with the reported pattern. A retired very senior police officer remarked on the radio at the beginning of this tragedy for England, that he could and did predict where the next trouble would come from.
Finally, I care not a hoot whether the perpetrators are black, white, yellow,brown or rainbow, or how old they are (that includes your 7yr old girl Pr00ne) they need to be given an immediate short sharp reminder that what they are doing is wrong.
Before some F*ckwit writes to tell me about the violence and catholic/ protestant nonsense up here.. I know I live just outside Glasgow (and I support "the Jaggies" because it's a non controversial option) Back to topic, policemen I know talk of the copycat syndrome and add that just about all of the troubles originate from or near to a black ghetto and it's only the young blacks who have the balls to start the trouble and the weak spineless whites come out later. That seems to link in with the reported pattern. A retired very senior police officer remarked on the radio at the beginning of this tragedy for England, that he could and did predict where the next trouble would come from.
Finally, I care not a hoot whether the perpetrators are black, white, yellow,brown or rainbow, or how old they are (that includes your 7yr old girl Pr00ne) they need to be given an immediate short sharp reminder that what they are doing is wrong.
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Willard Whyte
These were the vehicles - made by Jankel - and indeed they are based on the Ford F-450.
Jankel
The vandals didn't seem too keen to stand in the way when the vehicles charged down the street !
These were the vehicles - made by Jankel - and indeed they are based on the Ford F-450.
Jankel
The vandals didn't seem too keen to stand in the way when the vehicles charged down the street !
If it pisses down tonight, that my be the one thing that halts the rioters in their tracks!
For now at least...
Also, as for long term preventative measures, I understand reflexology is ideal for reducing pent up rage and over exuberant misdirected energy.
FB
For now at least...
Also, as for long term preventative measures, I understand reflexology is ideal for reducing pent up rage and over exuberant misdirected energy.
FB
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ROG
As much as Pr00ne might like to say that we are otherwise (ie racist), I think most people go along the same lines as you. I do. It's not colour, it's what they are doing.
"Finally, I care not a hoot whether the perpetrators are black, white, yellow,brown or rainbow, or how old they are (that includes your 7yr old girl Pr00ne) they need to be given an immediate short sharp reminder that what they are doing is wrong."
Interesting that some of the media - and photos which are undeniable - have highlighted the ages of some of the perbs.
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As much as Pr00ne might like to say that we are otherwise (ie racist), I think most people go along the same lines as you. I do. It's not colour, it's what they are doing.
"Finally, I care not a hoot whether the perpetrators are black, white, yellow,brown or rainbow, or how old they are (that includes your 7yr old girl Pr00ne) they need to be given an immediate short sharp reminder that what they are doing is wrong."
Interesting that some of the media - and photos which are undeniable - have highlighted the ages of some of the perbs.
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It is interesting to see some of the reactions of parents when the kids have been arrested, including an 11 year old boy. (Pr00ne, are you going to defend him in court ?
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Now what if they hadn't been arrested. Would the parents have known ?
Would have been good IMHO if they had turned up back home with Yellow dye all over them. Might have had some explaining to do.
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)Now what if they hadn't been arrested. Would the parents have known ?
Would have been good IMHO if they had turned up back home with Yellow dye all over them. Might have had some explaining to do.
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As I said on the other thread Re your post re Jet Blast, I don't disagree with you but we don't make or implement the rules.
So instead of shouting at US, why not send a PM to the MODERATOR because they are the one's who can move it instead of waiting fro him to read it. We can't do it, so stop being such a dick head. Or just don't read or comment on the thread.
You are probably the type that kicks the dog because the cat peed on the carpet !
As I said on the other thread Re your post re Jet Blast, I don't disagree with you but we don't make or implement the rules.
So instead of shouting at US, why not send a PM to the MODERATOR because they are the one's who can move it instead of waiting fro him to read it. We can't do it, so stop being such a dick head. Or just don't read or comment on the thread.
You are probably the type that kicks the dog because the cat peed on the carpet !
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Not in Scotland
ROG,
I think you will find the difference is that the English residents are only afraid of the Law, but bad people living in Scotland are afraid of the Polis.
I can't imagine Glasgow cops allowing their cars to be set alight. They are more likely to drive into the crowd.
Perhaps it is time for the MET to realise that the rules of engagement have been set by the looters, not by the courts. Once the operational commanders get their heads into that way of thinking, some real progress can be made.
I think you will find the difference is that the English residents are only afraid of the Law, but bad people living in Scotland are afraid of the Polis.
I can't imagine Glasgow cops allowing their cars to be set alight. They are more likely to drive into the crowd.
Perhaps it is time for the MET to realise that the rules of engagement have been set by the looters, not by the courts. Once the operational commanders get their heads into that way of thinking, some real progress can be made.
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Not my idea of progress. My idea of progress is a return to peace and a semblance of democratic equality, not the jackbooted crushing of a perceived underclass who isn't acting "nice" at the expense of the very laws which we're castigating them for breaking.
I believe "maintenance of the aim" is still a basic tenet of any strategy, and the aim in this case is to maintain the rule of law. You don't achieve that by throwing those laws out of the window.
I believe "maintenance of the aim" is still a basic tenet of any strategy, and the aim in this case is to maintain the rule of law. You don't achieve that by throwing those laws out of the window.
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I can't imagine Glasgow cops allowing their cars to be set alight. They are more likely to drive into the crowd.
He'd have been strung up for that today. But back then it was Big Boys Rules, on both sides. Gene Hunt exactly.
I don't remember any riots in the 70s in Liverpool. 80s, yes, but that's when the softly softly stuff came in.
Some weasels stand behind the letter of the law when it comes to morally wrong but legally defensible (however tenuous) behaviour. What they don't seem to consider is whether the law needs changing.
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I don't want the military to get called in, or martial law to be declared or something like that, but I don't get why the police won't just get the water cannons and rubber bullets out and just hose down the rioters and pop some rubber bullets at them.
It still blows my mind how one guy getting shot by a cop managed to cause such a disastrous riot.
It still blows my mind how one guy getting shot by a cop managed to cause such a disastrous riot.
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How is stopping looting, rioting and all the other crap (even if it is by use of water cannon, rubber bullets and baton charges and / or arresting the offenders "jackbooted crushing of a perceived underclass who isn't acting "nice" at the expense of the very laws which we're castigating them for breaking."
If they behave like animals, they need to be bought back to a standard by whatever means needed. I am sure if we went to their house and rioted and set fire to it, they would say the same.
How is stopping looting, rioting and all the other crap (even if it is by use of water cannon, rubber bullets and baton charges and / or arresting the offenders "jackbooted crushing of a perceived underclass who isn't acting "nice" at the expense of the very laws which we're castigating them for breaking."
If they behave like animals, they need to be bought back to a standard by whatever means needed. I am sure if we went to their house and rioted and set fire to it, they would say the same.
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CCTV is not needed, just round up the ones in sparklingly clean trainers and jogging clothes, watching several flat screen t.v.`s in one room.
Then it would get racist with human rights lawyers involved.
Oh Jane, the guy getting shot has nothing to do with this outrage. Just a normal day out for the thugs, given half an excuse with our shambolic "compensation mentality", and the fortunes to be made by human rights lawyers. Cherie Blair made a mint, obviously not on the back of her hubby. Just coincidence, l`m sure.
Then it would get racist with human rights lawyers involved.
Oh Jane, the guy getting shot has nothing to do with this outrage. Just a normal day out for the thugs, given half an excuse with our shambolic "compensation mentality", and the fortunes to be made by human rights lawyers. Cherie Blair made a mint, obviously not on the back of her hubby. Just coincidence, l`m sure.
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I don't buy the argument from a previous poster that the Tomlinson case has caused the Met's reluctance to employ robust tactics. That was a clear case of an innocent bystander being abused by police. We have seen 100s of clear-cut instances during these riots where a blatantly riotous mob needed a good shoeing.
We're not just talking about protection of property, it's amazing that some poor sod wasn't burnt to death. One good citizen in Ealing who attempted to stop the Mob committing arson is now in a coma and fighting for his life.
Hell, even under card alpha you can use reasonable and proportional force to protect the life of yourself and others.
We're not just talking about protection of property, it's amazing that some poor sod wasn't burnt to death. One good citizen in Ealing who attempted to stop the Mob committing arson is now in a coma and fighting for his life.
Hell, even under card alpha you can use reasonable and proportional force to protect the life of yourself and others.
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FJH,
If you talks to the cops in the street, that is exactly the situation - they see the cop who pushed Tomlinson as being 'set up' under trial by television, and don't want the same to happen to them. I've argued with friends of mine (some ex-Forces) who are cops about this, that it was a disproportionate use ot force, but they see it as having been part of the street clearing actions, he was dawdling, so was given a shove to hurry him up.
Part of the problem is that the Police don't appreciate that the public don't understand the tactics they use in these situations, nor do they appreciate that in the main law abiding citizens who are 'bystanders' don't take kindly to being spoken to or approached aggressively by Public Order control cops.
If you talks to the cops in the street, that is exactly the situation - they see the cop who pushed Tomlinson as being 'set up' under trial by television, and don't want the same to happen to them. I've argued with friends of mine (some ex-Forces) who are cops about this, that it was a disproportionate use ot force, but they see it as having been part of the street clearing actions, he was dawdling, so was given a shove to hurry him up.
Part of the problem is that the Police don't appreciate that the public don't understand the tactics they use in these situations, nor do they appreciate that in the main law abiding citizens who are 'bystanders' don't take kindly to being spoken to or approached aggressively by Public Order control cops.