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Listening to various deliberations about the future bases required for MFTS, and I quote 'Valley and Linton must remain open to avoid putting all our eggs in one basket'.........
So where will all our AT divert to, when BZN is the only AT base in use???? Say when a Herc has an issue and blacks the rwy???
Listening to various deliberations about the future bases required for MFTS, and I quote 'Valley and Linton must remain open to avoid putting all our eggs in one basket'.........
So where will all our AT divert to, when BZN is the only AT base in use???? Say when a Herc has an issue and blacks the rwy???
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Originally Posted by Big Eric
That's a fantastic site RAF SARGE,thanks for pointing me in that direction mate.
What's the "& bull" bit mean ?
It looks like these guys know more than us
B.E.
What's the "& bull" bit mean ?
It looks like these guys know more than us
B.E.
Originally Posted by Could be the last?
So where will all our AT divert to, when BZN is the only AT base in use???? Say when a Herc has an issue and blacks the rwy???
Cheers,
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"We shall have to sit, wait and see, rather than talk 10 pages of b0llocks and speculation on here." - VinRouge
Why spoil the PPrune habits of a lifetime? Roll on the rampant speculation!
Good news is that the crew are ok.
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Why spoil the PPrune habits of a lifetime? Roll on the rampant speculation!
Good news is that the crew are ok.
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Yes, but when the poo hits the turbine, the undercarriage is comprised of 3 seperable systems, operated in normal conditions by 1 hyd system in flight.
For all 3 to fail is unlikely. For the lowered undercarriage (mains) to both collapse on landing is most unlikely, due to the nature of the friction washers at the bottom of the 4 mains screwjacks.
The nose U/c has 2 additional methods of emergency lowering, but has (rarely) collapsed on landing in the past.
I think you know the answer to this question........
For all 3 to fail is unlikely. For the lowered undercarriage (mains) to both collapse on landing is most unlikely, due to the nature of the friction washers at the bottom of the 4 mains screwjacks.
The nose U/c has 2 additional methods of emergency lowering, but has (rarely) collapsed on landing in the past.
I think you know the answer to this question........
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Yes, but when the poo hits the turbine, the undercarriage is comprised of 3 seperable systems, operated in normal conditions by 1 hyd system in flight.
For all 3 to fail is unlikely. For the lowered undercarriage (mains) to both collapse on landing is most unlikely, due to the nature of the friction washers at the bottom of the 4 mains screwjacks.
The nose U/c has 2 additional methods of emergency lowering, but has (rarely) collapsed on landing in the past.
I think you know the answer to this question........
For all 3 to fail is unlikely. For the lowered undercarriage (mains) to both collapse on landing is most unlikely, due to the nature of the friction washers at the bottom of the 4 mains screwjacks.
The nose U/c has 2 additional methods of emergency lowering, but has (rarely) collapsed on landing in the past.
I think you know the answer to this question........
Just tried to have a closer look at the pic and cant see any U/C doors open but the one thing I dont know and you dont know is exactly what happened so lets wait and see eh
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To those people asking how the **** could an Albert crew land wheels up, all I'm going to say is they certainly are not the first, and I will bet my life they will not be the last if it is just a finger problem.....
However, I would strongly suspect a problem that prevented one part of the gear being lowered, so landing belly would be safer than trying land with only half the gear deployed. If you have a look on YouTube thre is a full video of ( think it's American) a Herc belly landing due to u/c issues, and being a high wing a/c it takes it very very well....
YouTube - Bad landing C-130 Hercules
But no one knows the facts, The main concern is that all the crew are safe, aircraft can be replaced....
Now, was XV304 on a print????
However, I would strongly suspect a problem that prevented one part of the gear being lowered, so landing belly would be safer than trying land with only half the gear deployed. If you have a look on YouTube thre is a full video of ( think it's American) a Herc belly landing due to u/c issues, and being a high wing a/c it takes it very very well....
YouTube - Bad landing C-130 Hercules
But no one knows the facts, The main concern is that all the crew are safe, aircraft can be replaced....
Now, was XV304 on a print????
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SFFP, this is a rumour site. No one's hurt (physically - a few egos and reputations may be damaged), if you don't like the speculation, don't read it.
btw, what is the guidance for a Herc if part of the u/c will not lower, is it to land with no u/c or to land with any available u/c ?
BGG
btw, what is the guidance for a Herc if part of the u/c will not lower, is it to land with no u/c or to land with any available u/c ?
BGG
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However, I would strongly suspect a problem that prevented one part of the gear being lowered, so landing belly would be safer than trying land with only half the gear deployed
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"Did somebody say "Gear Up Landing...?"
Just imagine if there was some sort of aural warning to stop that:"
Any truth in the rumour that the aural warning can be suppressed by pulling a CB?
Just wondered.........
BTW u/c doors all appear to be closed
Just imagine if there was some sort of aural warning to stop that:"
Any truth in the rumour that the aural warning can be suppressed by pulling a CB?
Just wondered.........
BTW u/c doors all appear to be closed
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Surely if this was an emergency wheels up no captain worth his salt would have done it at Brize and blacked the runway. A short hop to Lyneham and 2 runways would be a better option ?
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As this is a site for rumour and speculation...Gear horn CB tripped and forgotten about. No U/C or util hyd problems as surely there would have been a call / diversion to black another runway.
Come on gents, how many times have you forgotten to reset the CB and during a busy sortie, said what you thought you saw? I suspect alot of people. We are only human.
Glad everyone was ok, a few damaged egos but no injuries.
Come on gents, how many times have you forgotten to reset the CB and during a busy sortie, said what you thought you saw? I suspect alot of people. We are only human.
Glad everyone was ok, a few damaged egos but no injuries.