Latest Future Brize 'hiccups'
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Latest Future Brize 'hiccups'
Some more gems just released from the disaster that is Project 'Future Brize'
SFA build now not complete until 2016
C130 hangar due for completion late 2012/early 2013 - aircraft move Jul 2011!
47 AD hangar won't be ready until the end of 2011 - meaning 5/6 months of split location ops for the unit with uncertainty as to where the loads will be prepped
Extra money being spent to build cycle path network to allow access to the stn - the rumour of not taking a motor vehicle onto the stn if you live within 3 miles is true
RAF Fairford will be used to house personnel, aircraft and equipment until RAF Brize Norton is complete.
Officer's Mess and Sgt's Mess new build will be complete on time but is estimated to be short of rooms by 25%.
Now, I'm all for the co-location of the AT and AR fleets and agree with the principle and cost-saving measures but surely we could postpone the move until everything is complete?
Or hands up those who want to spend the first 3 years commuting from Fairford or anywhere else within the 25 mile radius? Even better - how about moving 3 times in 2 years from SFA into SSFA and back into SFA
SFA build now not complete until 2016
C130 hangar due for completion late 2012/early 2013 - aircraft move Jul 2011!
47 AD hangar won't be ready until the end of 2011 - meaning 5/6 months of split location ops for the unit with uncertainty as to where the loads will be prepped
Extra money being spent to build cycle path network to allow access to the stn - the rumour of not taking a motor vehicle onto the stn if you live within 3 miles is true
RAF Fairford will be used to house personnel, aircraft and equipment until RAF Brize Norton is complete.
Officer's Mess and Sgt's Mess new build will be complete on time but is estimated to be short of rooms by 25%.
Now, I'm all for the co-location of the AT and AR fleets and agree with the principle and cost-saving measures but surely we could postpone the move until everything is complete?
Or hands up those who want to spend the first 3 years commuting from Fairford or anywhere else within the 25 mile radius? Even better - how about moving 3 times in 2 years from SFA into SSFA and back into SFA
What a complete and utter rolling goatf**k!
So if there isn't enough room in the Messes, where will people live?
Who will pay for the bicycles if this cretinous idea of compulsory cycling to work becomes reality?
The first thing I said when this daft 'CATARA' programme started was "And where will everyone park?"
Surely it's time to call time on this utter nonsense?
So if there isn't enough room in the Messes, where will people live?
Who will pay for the bicycles if this cretinous idea of compulsory cycling to work becomes reality?
The first thing I said when this daft 'CATARA' programme started was "And where will everyone park?"
Surely it's time to call time on this utter nonsense?
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''Extra money being spent to build cycle path network to allow access to the stn - the rumour of not taking a motor vehicle onto the stn if you live within 3 miles is true''
That should add a bit of time to a TANSOR scramble!
That should add a bit of time to a TANSOR scramble!
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Excellent news on the cycling front there. I hope this might lead back to station bicycles and the promotion of a far better form of transport. 3 miles is a very reasonable distance for a cycle commute - but the larger older types will no doubt find sick chits for themselves to continue to drive.
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This 3 miles thing. What is the datum? Domestic site, midpoint of the runway, 3 miles from the wire? And will the cycle routes extend to all localities within 3 miles? Will crash gates be open to ease the pressure on an already congested main gate? Who will pay for the extra MPGS? Come on Proj Os, details please!
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A three mile cycle in summer - fine. Same distance in winter, in snow for an 0600 launch, even my boundless enthusiasm would wane. So I'd book a room in the mess, if there were space, oh - there isn't. I predict a very busy SMO - writing chits and seeing to cycling related injuries! Stupid idea!
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Just out of interest, this 3 miles thing. Is it only applicable to Air Force types, or everyone civies included. Not that I care, I'm 20 miles away in a "large North Wiltshire town", but in 6 months time I'll be 3500 miles. Quite a commute!!!!
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As a matter of interest I just measured the distance I used to cycle on my last real job inside the wire going from my office to one of my outstations - 5.5 miles round trip.
Best will in the world, that was 20-25 minutes out of my day. Two trips and you were looking at an hour.
Turn that round, shag on sqn goes to SHQ and back - 6 mile round trip - that is an awful lot of manhours.
Best will in the world, that was 20-25 minutes out of my day. Two trips and you were looking at an hour.
Turn that round, shag on sqn goes to SHQ and back - 6 mile round trip - that is an awful lot of manhours.
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The main problem here is that many Officers have inexplicably forgotten that the smooth running of the RAF relies on the goodwill of the SNCO's.
Tell us what to do, and we'll do it. We'll find a way. Trust us. Take the glory, we don't care. We like what we do, we're simple folk.
Go back to your endless meetings and briefings, backstabbing your rivals and sidelining your dissenters.
Let the professional 'project manager', your SNCO, get it sorted out for you. He's been promoted because he's experienced, he's good at what he does. He might even enjoy working for and respect you if you don't change your mind every five minutes and micro-manage him.
There, I said it.
Tell us what to do, and we'll do it. We'll find a way. Trust us. Take the glory, we don't care. We like what we do, we're simple folk.
Go back to your endless meetings and briefings, backstabbing your rivals and sidelining your dissenters.
Let the professional 'project manager', your SNCO, get it sorted out for you. He's been promoted because he's experienced, he's good at what he does. He might even enjoy working for and respect you if you don't change your mind every five minutes and micro-manage him.
There, I said it.
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Kipper fleet viewpoint
As a retired member of the 'Kipper Fleet' I think that this is an excellent idea. You truckies were always way over weight after eating all those wonderful in flight meals!
On a serious note, have the 'elf an safety' goons been consulted about this cycling idea?
Glad I've retired.
On a serious note, have the 'elf an safety' goons been consulted about this cycling idea?
Glad I've retired.
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Extra money being spent to build cycle path network to allow access to the stn - the rumour of not taking a motor vehicle onto the stn if you live within 3 miles is true
Is it indicative of things to come??
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Same distance in winter, in snow for an 0600 launch
Turn that round, shag on sqn goes to SHQ and back - 6 mile round trip
Always nice to see the 'can do' spirit shining through
Anway, there are acres of space which could be used for car parking. For example, the whole area between the OM and Belfast Square could be dug up and concreted over......