airborne_artist

Guth - KWC is right. I joined the RN seven weeks after a guy aged 25 (upper age limit of 25 yrs 11 mths for RN aircrew, BTW) who had been, seriously, a London Bus driver. He went back to night school to get the qualifications he should have got at school.

And now he's driving buses again.., as a Captain for BMI Baby.

It can be done, and you do in fact have loads of time. Bear in mind that you need a minimum score of 140 UCAS points - you may be able to do other qualifications (apart from Scottish Highers) to achieve the score, so check with the Careers Office before you commit.

StevenAFC

Granted being a lawyer could potentially have some amazing cash benefits, but its the difference between a life long dream realised, and a job.

I think I'd like to give the dream a shot, I've only got until im 23 to make it as a pilot, ive got the rest of my life to become a lawyer.

airborne_artist

BluntM8 - lawyers working for the firms you describe are expected to work their nuts off for a good ten years if they want to stand a chance of partner. And I mean nuts - that's 8 til 8 five days a week, and then plenty to take home for the w/e. Sure, they get well paid for it, but it's very tough.

SFAC - if you've got a law degree that proves you can learn. You should be also be able to think, and express your thoughts in a clear, precise fashion on paper and verbally. With the correct preparation that will get you a long way. A mate who went Sea Harrier was a qualified barrister before he joined the RN.

Intersceptic

Not sure if this has already been covered somewhere else, but apparently OASC is changing.

Apparently just made official, OASC will now be in two parts, the first session with aptitude tests, leadership tests and the interview, and a seperate second session a few weeks later that incorporates the fitness test, medical and also the fam visit. What occurs to me is that this might replace/incorporate the second more stringent medical and the prejoining fitness test. Apparently these measures are intended to reduce the waiting time between OASC and IOT.

Just wonder if PN (or anyone else really) might be able to weigh in here with some further information. You always seem hideously well informed.

warty99

Intersceptic - this has been the new structure since the start of September. You will be required to reach the RAFFT fitness levels in Part B, rather than the (lower) levels formerly required for the PJFT.

Try looking at The Student Room - they have a thread running over there on the new structure. Once you are given a date for OASC you will also receive details of the precise structure and required fitness levels.

AFAIK it has nothing to do with reducing the waiting time from OASC to IOT; it has more to do with trying to avoid wasting the time of overstretched medical staff doing medicals for the large percentage of applicants who are subsequently turned down.

NDW

Evening all

I have recently had my eyes checked up and i was told that i was short sighted in my right eye, In my left eye i was 6/5 Vision and in my Right 6/7.5.
I did have my sights on becoming a R.A.F Pilot, however would the R.A.F accept me for WSO/Nav

Many thanks all

NDW

R 21

Not a professional Doc but by the sounds of it.......NOPE!! When I went through selection you needed near perfect eyesight ie no glasses but that may have changed.

Good Luck!

L1A2 discharged

But if he can't see the sticky at the top of the page .......

Mark Nine

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dagowly

my eye sight is slightly better than your results and OASC told me i was PMU from Officer Aircrew.

Spotting Bad Guys

PLEASE do not accept what you are told here as gospel; the only people who are qualified to assess you and make that decision are the specialists at OASC. I was told by a military SMO in Germany that my eyesight at 16 was not good enough for aircrew; a few years later I entered training as GD(N).

Good luck - you can but ask!

SBG

airborne_artist

The RN and AAC aircrew standards are lower, btw. 6/12, IIRC.

dave_perry

On phase 2 of OASC, you have you fitness and your medicals. Does anybody know what the levels are. I did have them as:
Bleep Test - 9.10
Sit Ups - 33
Press Ups - 13
...for 17 - 24 years...
Have they now changed?

Dave

airborne_artist

NDW - chapter and verse:

http://www.aop.org.uk/uploaded_files/raf_july_07.pdf

http://www.aop.org.uk/uploaded_files/navy.pdf

EliasL

Hello guys!

Hi, as I'm new I think I'll post a little introduction!
My name is Elias I'm 14, I was born in Algeria, moved to Italy, then moved to England! Hence, the reason why I can speak 4 languages. I love aviation, I'm passionate about planes and stuff alike. I've wanted to be a pilot for really since I was 6 ( Lost it completely by 9 or 10). As a person I like to have a back up plan for everything, and I have many jobs in mind which I would like to have; but none beat the dream of flying in the RAF. I'm currently in the air cadets.

But I have a few questions..
Seeing as I moved countries a lot (as you already know) I developed some asthma which I don't think was put down in my medical records anyway, will that effect my chances of being a pilot?

I'm not the brightest star in the sky so to speak, but I'm getting average grades at least, but maths and science aren't my strong points whilst I excel at English in school. Do I have to take subjects like Maths for my A-Levels?

Also, what would be the best route for a pilot career? Either I get my GCSE's and A-Levels done and dusted and go forwards to the interview, or I go to university and study some sort of subject which isn't so mathematical such as Engineering or some sort of practical subject like that.


Thanks in advance!

kiwi chick

Is this a wind-up? You don't speak like a 14 year old...

EliasL

No honestly, although I sound like a posh git online right? I'd like advice if possible...

kiwi chick

Well, no... you just sound sort of... grown up?

(unlike most people on here... )



JUST KIDDING EVERYONE!!!!!!!!

EliasL

Yeah, referr to post No.2 please..

No matter how grown up I sound, I'd appreciate it if you can answer my questions..

kiwi chick

Post Number 2? You've lost me there, sorry!

Well, I can answer (from LOTS of personal experience on the recruiting side!) but only from the point of view of OUR Air Force (RNZAF) - but I would (hopefully) assume that's it similar.

Yes, maths and science are very important! Although, if they are THAT strong, they may ask you to work as Navigator, or Air Warfare Specialist!

Working with numbers, thinking logically and quickly, and having a fundamental understanding of the workings in progress around you (ie the physics side) are very important in the air - and I would imagine even more so if you are blasting around at 400kts.

As for the asthma, well, I don't know this for sure, but my guess would be "sorry chap" unless you can show that you haven't been afflicted by it in a very very long time.

I am sure that as more people read this you will get a better idea, but I hope this helps in the meantime.

Good luck

KC