Hamilton_Fox

When I went through for a SFS, there were a hell of a lot of people. Don't know about the figures like 400 odd, but I can only guess. Nor do I know how many SFS there were in the end, but surely the numbers at Grantown on Spey would give you a fairly big clue - saying that, lol, I didn't manage to get there, prior commitment, anyone here want to say something about the number of people that attended the 2 week intro to leadership there? Might help with the figure guessing .

As for the shortened process, that's not what I did. As far I as I know we all did the same 4 day OASC process just like everybody else. In fact, if I remember correctly, there were one or two people, out of twenty odd in the group, that were engineer uni-bursary candidates coming back to OASC to try and transfer to pilot...and something about paying the £4k a year back to the RAF if successful at transfer because of contract breech, but that was just talk and heresay . Point was, they did the same OASC we did.

not_so_sis

Hi,
In my efforts to have a full knowledge of all the pilot training routes ready for when I get to OASC I have found a bit of a gap in my literature on what happens coming from EFT during the single engine Advanced rotary wing training which is the second phase with 705 NAS, also after 60 (r) sqn at SARTU?
No real detail needed, just a basic outline. I understand its a bit boring but I would find it very helpful.
Thank you.

Hamilton_Fox

not_so_sis

I've got a PowerPoint presentation of the whole lot mapped out really nicely, giving detailed overview of all pipelines from all services + timescales + individual squadrons. I've just had a quick check on the internet and can't find where I got it from, but PM me your e-mail address and I'll send it to you as an attachment, it's only 106KB.

not_so_sis

yeah that would be a great help, I have been making a folder with literally everything you could possibly think of, re writing everything i get my hands on, but a nice presentation would be great ill PM you my e-mail address.
Cheers

Fraser_B

Hi Guys

I've been predicted a 1st going into the final year of my BEng civil engineering degree in september, having also completed an extended engineering foundation year (which I also achieved a 1st in) as I didn't have the relevant A-Levels, either maths or physics, to get onto an engineering degree (my A-Level results weren't exactly spectacular either)

Would having a good grade in my degree and foundation year (which was basically A-level standard maths and physics) mean that A-level results were overlooked when applying for pilot in the Navy or RAF

Thanks for the help

airborne_artist

You still need 180 UCAS points, and a C or above in an English GCSE, but the UCAS points can include AS levels (but not double counting the AS and A2 in the same subject, obviously).

Your 1st in your degree will be very positive, and I doubt they will be fussed about A level grades so long as you meet the minimum points score. They do not care about the A-level/degree subjects - though clearly Maths skills are needed to pass the aptitude tests.

Aircrew Officer (Pilot and Observer) : Careers / Roles : Royal Navy

Mackay

Hi guys,

Its my first post on the forum and thought I would ask about recruiting into Aircrew for the Royal Navy.

I got a letter a few months ago from the Surgeon Commander down at HMS Gosport about his concerns with the level of medication I have been prescribed for Hay Fever (Tablets, Nasal Spray, and Eye drops. Which my GP explained to me as being a generic prescription.)

I have been given the year 2011 where I will be allowed to reapply if I wish, that's the year I finish University so there shouldn't be a major issue there - I'm fully prepared to wait.

I asked him, probably quite naively, whether there was a possibility that I could get all the application processes out the way and then joined when classed 'fit' to do so. He explain it was not ordinarily the case when people were permitted to apply when deemed unfit?

So I was wandering what were the cases when 'Unfit' applicants were able to apply?

Cheers,

Matt

airborne_artist

You are much better off asking that Q here:

The Navy Net: Rum Ration Forums General Newbies

The forum moderator works in an RN AFCO.

Mackay

Thanks, I will do.

Pontius Navigator

MacKay, applying logic and reason (often virtues overlooked by staff officers) I would expect a NO.

A no because medical is one of the primary filters. To go through the rest of the process you would be 'taking' someone else's place in the process at a cost to the Service and potential denial of a place for a fit recruit.

The Service would be incurring possibly nugatory expense and you might even be rejected when, with more maturity you might pass first time.

Best you do your degree, enjoy university and prepare yourself.

Mackay

Thanks, Im certainly cracking on with my degree, getting experience under my belt, and the whole (Hopefully) maturing. So we will see when 2011 rolls in.

I was curious of any circumstances when this has been allowed?

airborne_artist

I beleive that the RN demands four years symptom-free of hayfever, so I can't see that you have any choice. In addition an AIB pass has only 12 months' validity, so there really is no way you can short-circuit the system.

Green Flash

Matt

I'll second Ponts advice. Either join your local RNR unit (or even UAS?) and immerse yourself in whatever colour of blue that would suit your plans. That way you can go back to the military in the future with (hopefully) a wealth of experience in things military and proof of your commitment. Thereafter, it's a matter of keeping your fingers crossed medical-wise. Sometimes the cruel seagull of fate will splash a big one in your soup and there ain't much you can do about it! Hope it all works out for you, good luck.

Mackay

Thats exactly what I've done so far, Ive joined the local RNR unit HMS Vivid in Devonport (What an ideal location), and have the taken the opportunity to join the HMS Seahawk Gliding Club at RNAS Culdrose (There are closer gliding clubs to me, but I particularly liked the feel of being on the base).

Just going for my CO's reccomendation for Officer Training, so I'll see how that goes.

Thanks, I'll see how it goes in few years

Dengue_Dude

Mysteriously (ahem) my hayfever developed AFTER I went aircrew. You may not be able to actually DO that, but it worked for me. Once they've spent a load of money on you, they view it differently.

Mind you, I trained as aircrew in 1973 when standards were a lot lower (I ACTUALLY meant medical standards, but perhaps it was a Freudian slip).

Even now I take non-drowsy medication which was prescribed with the full knowledge of the CAA, medication is Cetirizine (no I'm not suggesting you take it, just that 'acceptable' medication is available)

Good luck

Mackay

The thing is I haven't been on any medication for three years, the only symptoms I've got now are sneezing a few times a day, albeit it was worse 10 years ago. They've got a huge pool of applicants and want to choose people who aren't possible liabilities. So i reckon because I've got hayever down on my record I'm off to a distinct disadvantage.

Pontius Navigator

Dude, unfortunately he is on record. Only hope is lack of hay at sea

206Fan

Gona hijack your post for a bit fraser

Does this mean only certain BTEC courses (Maths Related) are suitable for inclusion within the points that the navy will accept?

I contacted the navy about the grades side of things aswel because i don't have the A levels either so they said an alternate would be to do a Btec National Diploma which im starting this sept at college (Electrical Engineering course). Thou im still confused whether i need the GCSE maths and english on top of this aswel?

Cheers

airborne_artist

Yes, so check that your course is acceptable.

You still need passes in Maths and English GCSEs regardless of whether you have A-levels or BTECs to make up your UCAS points score. To be very honest I'd be surprised if someone struggling to get a C in GCSE Maths would stand a chance in the aptitude tests. Equally a candidate with only a C in English may struggle in the AIB written assessments.

206Fan

AA

Thanks for your reply!