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Tankertrashnav, you just cost me five bucks! You see, my wife who is a KIWI bet me it would take less than ten posts to get a bite re Prince whats his name getting wings in 40 hours! Being a KIWI she is a master at "Pom Baiting". its almost a national sport down there! On a more serious note, the response in our local Legion from some of our vets was not very positive when it comes to the future of the Crown in Canada, these guys are not "Walts" by any streatch, there DFCs and other gongs were earned the hard way along with their wings, as one said it makes being a "Walt" OK in the eyes of many if one of the Royals can get away with it.
If it is a Federal offence in the USA to wear medals and such that one is not entitled to wear (AFAIK)- is there a similar law in UK and if not is it time to campaign for such a law to exist?
I find it utterly insulting to people that have served when some tosser (even if they are suffering some sort of mental health issue) parades around claiming to be something they are not.
I find it utterly insulting to people that have served when some tosser (even if they are suffering some sort of mental health issue) parades around claiming to be something they are not.
Clunk - how do you know I'm a Pom? Brit yes, does that count? Thought Poms were English. You may get your $5 back as I'm half Irish/half Scots (and yes, still loyal to the Crown!).
Load Toad - Dont think there is a law against wearing medals to which you are not entitled here, but there is one against impersonating a member of HM Forces. When I was serving, an officers' confidential order came round to the effect that officers were not to harrass civilians wearing ex RAF greatcoats etc as these had been disposed of through service channels and as long as there was no serious attempt to impersonate a serviceman no offence was being committed. As you see, the attitude is pretty lax over here but in the present pro-service climate (way different from the 60s and 70s when we were scum to a lot of civvies) things may well change.
Load Toad - Dont think there is a law against wearing medals to which you are not entitled here, but there is one against impersonating a member of HM Forces. When I was serving, an officers' confidential order came round to the effect that officers were not to harrass civilians wearing ex RAF greatcoats etc as these had been disposed of through service channels and as long as there was no serious attempt to impersonate a serviceman no offence was being committed. As you see, the attitude is pretty lax over here but in the present pro-service climate (way different from the 60s and 70s when we were scum to a lot of civvies) things may well change.
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SKY News 7 Dec 2009.
A man who marched on Remembrance Day with an "impossible" 17 medals has denied he is a fake, saying he earned all the honours. Related photos / videos
Angry war veterans spotted the man taking part in the November 11 parade in Bedworth, Warwickshire.
Pinned to his lapel was the Distinguished Service Order and Military Cross - in addition to campaign medals stretching from World War Two to the Gulf.
He also wore three SAS badges and an SAS beret.
Military experts said it would have been "impossible" for one man to have been decorated with so many honours.
But 61-year-old Roger Day said all the medals were genuine - and so was he.
"They're all proper pukka campaign medals. Medals I won in conflicts while I was serving with the British forces," he told The Sun.
But when quizzed about his SAS background, he said the Official Secrets Act prevented him from giving details.
"All I can say is South Atlantic, the Gulf, Kuwait and one or two other stations," he said.
He suggested others had misidentified his medals because he "might have hung them in the wrong order".
Mr Day also rejected that he had fled the Bedworth service after being confronted by former servicemen and admitting he was a phoney.
"I saw it out to its bitter end and then went drinking with some ex-SAS buddies."
Reports said Mr Day was once also challenged by a real soldier at his local pub after talking up his efforts as an SAS hero.
However, he was backed by the vicar of the church where he was married.
"I do not think he is pretending," Graham Gittings told The Daily Mail.
"There are pictures of him in the Armed Forces in his home and he has given talks to church groups about war and peace."
Angry war veterans spotted the man taking part in the November 11 parade in Bedworth, Warwickshire.
Pinned to his lapel was the Distinguished Service Order and Military Cross - in addition to campaign medals stretching from World War Two to the Gulf.
He also wore three SAS badges and an SAS beret.
Military experts said it would have been "impossible" for one man to have been decorated with so many honours.
But 61-year-old Roger Day said all the medals were genuine - and so was he.
"They're all proper pukka campaign medals. Medals I won in conflicts while I was serving with the British forces," he told The Sun.
But when quizzed about his SAS background, he said the Official Secrets Act prevented him from giving details.
"All I can say is South Atlantic, the Gulf, Kuwait and one or two other stations," he said.
He suggested others had misidentified his medals because he "might have hung them in the wrong order".
Mr Day also rejected that he had fled the Bedworth service after being confronted by former servicemen and admitting he was a phoney.
"I saw it out to its bitter end and then went drinking with some ex-SAS buddies."
Reports said Mr Day was once also challenged by a real soldier at his local pub after talking up his efforts as an SAS hero.
However, he was backed by the vicar of the church where he was married.
"I do not think he is pretending," Graham Gittings told The Daily Mail.
"There are pictures of him in the Armed Forces in his home and he has given talks to church groups about war and peace."
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In the picture of Mr Day above, his beret badge looks too wide to me. Is that just me, or is it possibly a metal badge on a felt background (can't enlarge the picture, and my eyesight is rubbish these days).
Also, I notice he has a lapel/blazer badge in his poppy, just like the first chap mentioned in this thread.
On a slight tangent, I think Mr Day (in his beret) has a resemblance to Edward Woodward, not that this has anything to do with much at all, it's just something I noticed.
Second tangent. Did British forces ever use the word 'buddies'?
Also, I notice he has a lapel/blazer badge in his poppy, just like the first chap mentioned in this thread.
On a slight tangent, I think Mr Day (in his beret) has a resemblance to Edward Woodward, not that this has anything to do with much at all, it's just something I noticed.
Second tangent. Did British forces ever use the word 'buddies'?
Come-on guy's, he MUST be genuine!
Please note the following evidence:
1. SAS beret
2. SAS tie-pin
3. SAS blazer badge
4. SAS badge in centre of poppy
Finally, "the clincher":
Its a well known fact amongst those "in the know" that the SAS just love to advertise!
So, there you are, I rest my case!
lsh
Please note the following evidence:
1. SAS beret
2. SAS tie-pin
3. SAS blazer badge
4. SAS badge in centre of poppy
Finally, "the clincher":
Its a well known fact amongst those "in the know" that the SAS just love to advertise!
So, there you are, I rest my case!
lsh
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With some simple arithmatic if he is wearing WW2 medals, and he is 61 now - that would make him.....................not born yet! He couldn't join the SAS until until 1966 at the earliest - even if he joined the army at 18!
IF the Kuwait Liberation medal (4th class) is correct it is not allowed to be worn. Except by senior ranks Air rank down to officers. No other personel allowed to wear it
Conclusion; the man is a lying fool = 'WM' Class 1.
IF the Kuwait Liberation medal (4th class) is correct it is not allowed to be worn. Except by senior ranks Air rank down to officers. No other personel allowed to wear it
Conclusion; the man is a lying fool = 'WM' Class 1.
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He couldn't join the SAS until until 1966 at the earliest - even if he joined the army at 18!
Add to that he's "got" an MC and an MM - now that's very rare, as it implies he was decorated in the ranks, and again as an officer - he's too old to have got an MC in the ranks under the new rules. Then there is "his" DSO to that, which is rarely awarded to anyone below the rank of Major/equivalent, and he's now got a haul of medals that no-one in the Regiment has ever had - fact, and it is so easy to check up that he's a real plonker of the first order.
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OK, so many posters are claiming Mr Day is not entitled to ALL those medals. If he has served from the age of minus three/four until his retirement, then surely no one would begrudge him a long service medal or two
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Not strictly true, MC could be awarded to a Warrant Officer along with DFC/DSC before the rules changed. DSO could be awarded to Junior Officers under the old rules for bravery and was generally regarded as one down from a VC but now DSO is awarded for operational leadership whilst CGC is second to VC.
Man is still a *nob.
Not strictly true, MC could be awarded to a Warrant Officer along with DFC/DSC before the rules changed. DSO could be awarded to Junior Officers under the old rules for bravery and was generally regarded as one down from a VC but now DSO is awarded for operational leadership whilst CGC is second to VC.
Man is still a *nob.
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