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Originally by ShyTorque
Barnstormer, I could tell you - but then I'd have to kill you...
Thing is....What if I already knew what you told me
, and then of course you would have broken OPSEC by telling me, so I would have to kill you too
Maybe you should just keep things to yourself, as it will save a lot of hassle!, and keep things simple.
Of course, I can't tell you If I already know, or I'd have to kill you
Oh no, here we go again
Originally by ShyTorque
Barnstormer, I could tell you - but then I'd have to kill you...
Thing is....What if I already knew what you told me
, and then of course you would have broken OPSEC by telling me, so I would have to kill you tooMaybe you should just keep things to yourself, as it will save a lot of hassle!, and keep things simple.
Of course, I can't tell you If I already know, or I'd have to kill you
Oh no, here we go again
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SEAL imposter rumbled
Meanwhile, on this side of the pond:
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SEAL faker pleads guilty in Stolen Valor case
MilitaryTimes Friday Jan 8, 2010
A retired Coast Guard chief warrant officer 2 who claimed to be a decorated and combat-hardened SEAL — and managed to get a disability rating from the government — has pleaded guilty to wearing combat awards he did not earn. Thomas Barnhart pleaded guilty Wednesday in federal court in Roanoke, Va. to two counts of violating the Stolen Valor Act.
Barnhart served a combined 21 years in the Navy and the Coast Guard. He joined the Navy in 1969, then moved to the Coast Guard 10 years later, retiring in 1990. He entered the Coast Guard claiming to be a SEAL who had completed diving school and High Altitude-Low Opening parachutist school, according to court records.
He also claimed to have earned the Silver Star, Bronze Star with “V” for valor, Purple Heart with four stars, a Combat Action Ribbon and Vietnam War-era awards. The Coast Guard clerk bought the story and added the awards to Barnhart’s DD 214. Later DD 214 alterations would add a Navy Commendation with “V” device, Presidential Unit Citation with three stars, and Vietnamese Medal of Honor First and Second Class.
“Witnesses have stated that the defendant would spin yarns about his secret missions with the Navy SEALs and describe various combat situations in which he was wounded,” Assistant U.S. Attorney Craig “Jake” Jacobsen said in his comments to the court, which he provided to Navy Times. “As a result of what everyone believed, the defendant was promoted to warrant officer in the [Coast Guard] ahead of others, likely as a result of the defendant’s stellar ‘combat record.’ ”
Barnhart, who did serve off the coast of Vietnam in 1969 and 1970, retired Dec. 31, 1990, and applied for disability through the Department of Veterans Affairs less than a year later. By this time, he was passing himself off as a member of SEAL Team 1 with five Purple Hearts and a nomination for the Medal of Honor. He claimed a scar on his left forearm was the result of a gun shot, though VA medical records from 1987 said the injury was the result of his cutting himself on a piece of metal.
The VA claim was denied, but Barnhart was successful after giving it another try — this time with the help of his congressman — in 2005. This time, Barnhart claimed he suffered from post-traumatic stress disorder, and pointed to his altered DD 214 to support his claim.
During a subsequent medical exam in Virginia Beach, Va., Barnhart told the examining physician he was a SEAL in Vietnam assigned to an elite HALO parachute unit. He claimed to have engaged in multiple combat missions and received two Silver Stars, three Bronze Stars and five Purple Hearts. But an alleged rescue of a downed pilot, seeing a soldier being blown up by a rocket and having a pilot die in his arms after their helicopter had been shot down led to his PTSD, he told the doctor.
“The awards keep growing. Then he is a SEAL, then he has all the heroics,” Jacobsen told Navy Times. “I’ve seen this in similar pattern in other cases. The phonies can’t help themselves. The awards and accolades always grow.”
Still, the VA decided in 2006 to award Barnhart a 30 percent disability rating for PTSD.
The case against him began when Mary Schantag of the POW Network got wind of the bogus claims. She began an exhaustive investigation that ultimately led to the state’s attorney’s office looking into the matter. On Jan. 25, 2008, he admitted his DD 214 was altered, and that he was neither a SEAL nor a combat veteran. By that time, Barnhart had received $13,923 for his fraudulent PTSD claim.
“He was very quiet and ’fessed up when he was arrested,” said Jacobsen, who is an Iraq war veteran. “He seemed sincere in his apologies and didn’t deny that he had fabricated his history.”
Barnhart’s sentencing is set for April 8 in Roanoke. He faces 10 years in prison and a $250,000 fine for the theft of government funds and one year in prison and a $5,000 fine for claiming medals he did not earn, which is a misdemeanor. He also is required to pay back the $13,923 received from the VA for disability.
MilitaryTimes Friday Jan 8, 2010
A retired Coast Guard chief warrant officer 2 who claimed to be a decorated and combat-hardened SEAL — and managed to get a disability rating from the government — has pleaded guilty to wearing combat awards he did not earn. Thomas Barnhart pleaded guilty Wednesday in federal court in Roanoke, Va. to two counts of violating the Stolen Valor Act.
Barnhart served a combined 21 years in the Navy and the Coast Guard. He joined the Navy in 1969, then moved to the Coast Guard 10 years later, retiring in 1990. He entered the Coast Guard claiming to be a SEAL who had completed diving school and High Altitude-Low Opening parachutist school, according to court records.
He also claimed to have earned the Silver Star, Bronze Star with “V” for valor, Purple Heart with four stars, a Combat Action Ribbon and Vietnam War-era awards. The Coast Guard clerk bought the story and added the awards to Barnhart’s DD 214. Later DD 214 alterations would add a Navy Commendation with “V” device, Presidential Unit Citation with three stars, and Vietnamese Medal of Honor First and Second Class.
“Witnesses have stated that the defendant would spin yarns about his secret missions with the Navy SEALs and describe various combat situations in which he was wounded,” Assistant U.S. Attorney Craig “Jake” Jacobsen said in his comments to the court, which he provided to Navy Times. “As a result of what everyone believed, the defendant was promoted to warrant officer in the [Coast Guard] ahead of others, likely as a result of the defendant’s stellar ‘combat record.’ ”
Barnhart, who did serve off the coast of Vietnam in 1969 and 1970, retired Dec. 31, 1990, and applied for disability through the Department of Veterans Affairs less than a year later. By this time, he was passing himself off as a member of SEAL Team 1 with five Purple Hearts and a nomination for the Medal of Honor. He claimed a scar on his left forearm was the result of a gun shot, though VA medical records from 1987 said the injury was the result of his cutting himself on a piece of metal.
The VA claim was denied, but Barnhart was successful after giving it another try — this time with the help of his congressman — in 2005. This time, Barnhart claimed he suffered from post-traumatic stress disorder, and pointed to his altered DD 214 to support his claim.
During a subsequent medical exam in Virginia Beach, Va., Barnhart told the examining physician he was a SEAL in Vietnam assigned to an elite HALO parachute unit. He claimed to have engaged in multiple combat missions and received two Silver Stars, three Bronze Stars and five Purple Hearts. But an alleged rescue of a downed pilot, seeing a soldier being blown up by a rocket and having a pilot die in his arms after their helicopter had been shot down led to his PTSD, he told the doctor.
“The awards keep growing. Then he is a SEAL, then he has all the heroics,” Jacobsen told Navy Times. “I’ve seen this in similar pattern in other cases. The phonies can’t help themselves. The awards and accolades always grow.”
Still, the VA decided in 2006 to award Barnhart a 30 percent disability rating for PTSD.
The case against him began when Mary Schantag of the POW Network got wind of the bogus claims. She began an exhaustive investigation that ultimately led to the state’s attorney’s office looking into the matter. On Jan. 25, 2008, he admitted his DD 214 was altered, and that he was neither a SEAL nor a combat veteran. By that time, Barnhart had received $13,923 for his fraudulent PTSD claim.
“He was very quiet and ’fessed up when he was arrested,” said Jacobsen, who is an Iraq war veteran. “He seemed sincere in his apologies and didn’t deny that he had fabricated his history.”
Barnhart’s sentencing is set for April 8 in Roanoke. He faces 10 years in prison and a $250,000 fine for the theft of government funds and one year in prison and a $5,000 fine for claiming medals he did not earn, which is a misdemeanor. He also is required to pay back the $13,923 received from the VA for disability.
Just heard on the radio news that Day has been found guilty of wearing medals to which he was not entitled (see earlier posts). No sentence as yet, I suspect he'll get some form of probation though. Doubt if he'll be getting 10 years or a six figure fine (see post above)!
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BBC News - Armistice Day marcher admits medals were not earned
"The court heard how Day had started to make up stories to impress his new wife, who was 24 years younger. He was sentenced to carry out 60 hours of community service."
"The court heard how Day had started to make up stories to impress his new wife, who was 24 years younger. He was sentenced to carry out 60 hours of community service."
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The court heard how Day had started to make up stories to impress his new wife, who was 24 years younger.
I did a Google search for a photo of Maxine Day (his wife). The best looking one that came up was ....
and she's far too good looking for knobhead like this one.
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I was on a job last summer flying an airborne survey. Operator in the back of cab was a Russian right of the boat to Canuck land. First flight with this walt, he told me , if he didn;t like my flying he was gonna kick me out the door (in flight) and take over, cause he was a member of Spetsnaz, yeah right, the fat B####d was outta breath walking to the cookshack for his meals. Also figured he had been invited to emigrate to Canada cos the military wanted his advice on how to run JTF2. The W####r thought we were laughing with him, not at him Tosser.
Must say if that was the calibre of Ivans Spec warriors, we would of had no trouble 
Must say if that was the calibre of Ivans Spec warriors, we would of had no trouble
Just spotted in yesterday's Times that Day has had his sentence quashed and legal costs paid because the 1955 Army Act (see posts above) under which he was convicted had been replaced by the Armed Forces Act 11 days before his offence! Interesting, in view of the info which Satellite Driver posted at #185. Presumably that extension didnt happen.
Lets hope he'd already done a fair bit of his community service, but the main thing, I suppose, is that he won't be repeating his masquerade any time soon
Lets hope he'd already done a fair bit of his community service, but the main thing, I suppose, is that he won't be repeating his masquerade any time soon
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Post #166 by Dininagain on 12 Dec 2009
Who needs a lawyer when you can come to PPRuNe....perhaps that's where the defence found the grounds to appeal or CPS read and realised that they had got it wrong.....again.
Interesting. If the plod have charged Mr Day under the Army Act 1955, he may well find himself released in fairly short order.
I'm lead to believe the said Act became defunct as of 0001 hrs on 30 Oct 09, to be replaced by the Armed Forces Act 2006 (AFA06).
I'm lead to believe the said Act became defunct as of 0001 hrs on 30 Oct 09, to be replaced by the Armed Forces Act 2006 (AFA06).
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From The Sun (I know!)
Maybe not illegal, but absolutely immoral, mind you by his comments, he doesn't appear to have a conscience! 
Last night Day, who was at a march in Bedworth, Warwicks, said: "I am considering legal action against all those who muddied my name."
And he told reporters: "I'm vindicated. I've a big story to tell but I want a good price."
Wife Maxine, 38, said: "My husband did nothing illegal."
And he told reporters: "I'm vindicated. I've a big story to tell but I want a good price."
Wife Maxine, 38, said: "My husband did nothing illegal."
This makes me very cross! 
Anyone remember the film "True Lies" when Arnie "visits" the guy who is pretending to be a secret agent to try and shag his wife? How about the gentlemen from Credenhill pay him an unofficial visit for some special attention? That would get my vote
I'm not advocating bodily harm - just make his life a pigging misery for being a total c0ck!
Grrrrr!
Anyone remember the film "True Lies" when Arnie "visits" the guy who is pretending to be a secret agent to try and shag his wife? How about the gentlemen from Credenhill pay him an unofficial visit for some special attention? That would get my vote
I'm not advocating bodily harm - just make his life a pigging misery for being a total c0ck!
Grrrrr!
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Interestingly, he admitted his fakery earlier in the trial:
Fantasist Roger Day wore haul of fake medals on Remembrance Day march 'to impress his young wife' | Mail Online
...so you've kind of got to wonder about the bloke's mental health if he now thinks a technical dismissal is 'vindication'.
Fantasist Roger Day wore haul of fake medals on Remembrance Day march 'to impress his young wife' | Mail Online
...so you've kind of got to wonder about the bloke's mental health if he now thinks a technical dismissal is 'vindication'.
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Totally agree....this chap isn't all there and probably needs some medical help...I feel a little bit sorry for his wife who did her best to help but somehow this all seems to be her fault.....when it isnt at all...
I don't own this space under my name. I should have leased it while I still could
15 years ago I met a US Marines Captain on board an RN Minesweeper in Bremerhaven, Germany, during a VIP reception. After a couple of G&Ts the conversation focused on his medals and he sheepishly admitted that one was for being in the Northern Ireland combat zone...at 34 000 feet in Business Class on a US Airlines flight to Germany.