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RAAF Flight Screening Program (Merged)

Old 8th Sep 2009, 02:36
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Talking FSP

Hey guys just letting you know for all of those intrested that Oct FSP is starting to be offered. I got my call this morning. WOOOOOO

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Old 8th Sep 2009, 14:46
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What is the approximate waiting time between FSP and OTS (if successful)???
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Old 8th Sep 2009, 14:58
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Hey The Dos.
How's it going? I just received my offer for FSP this morning as well. I'll be attending between the 10th and 24th. How about you?

Take it easy,

KuneDo.
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Old 8th Sep 2009, 23:39
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John,
Depends on when the distribution dates are. I believe there are several OTS courses run a year. I was lucky because my FSP finished right when the distribution date was though you could wait as long as 6 months.
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Old 9th Sep 2009, 01:02
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FSP

Hey Kunedo

I look foward to meeting you becasue I have been placed on the very same course I cant wait, I could hardly sleep last night after that phone call yesterday lol.

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Old 9th Sep 2009, 05:42
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Remember to listen, and learn to read a clock!
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Old 9th Sep 2009, 10:39
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Excellent man. Haha I know, the last couple days have been the happiest I've had in a long time. I first applied back in August 2008. Patience pays off.
That goes for anybody else applying as well. Stick at it. If being a pilot is what you really want to be then don't ever deter even for a nanosecond. If it's meant to be then it'll happen, but that doesn't mean that you won't have to work hard for it. Its been a fairly harrowing 14 months. Keep at it.


The Dos, tell me a bit about yourself mate.
My name is Matt, I'm 21 years old, living in Perth.
As was forementioned, the last 14 months of my life have been spent working towards this moment. I had my assessment day in July and have been clearing up medical issues since then so it felt pretty good to hear back from the PSA so soon.

KD.
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Old 10th Sep 2009, 10:21
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Hey Kunedo

my names Hayden, from the gold coast, 20 and applied last November. Have you done any flying before?

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Old 10th Sep 2009, 10:34
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Yeah I've done a few flights in my hometown of Albany in a family friend's Cessna 182. I've done about 5 flights since I was 15. They were mainly joy rides but they gave me the taste I needed to spur me to apply. I had always wanted to get my private licence when I was younger but could never afford it. How about you? Have you received any emails or letters from PSA? I was told to expect it within a couple days.
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Old 10th Sep 2009, 11:43
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I have done a fair bit of flying I am currently working towards a CPL but since this has been going on I am putting all of my time into the RAAF on prep. Not as yet I haven't got any emails I am waiting for those to with baited breath.
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Old 10th Sep 2009, 16:00
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Awesome. Well I look forward to meeting you there.
October 10th cannot come soon enough.

Until then...

KD.
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Old 16th Sep 2009, 12:29
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Y.O.U Session

Hi there
Could anyone please give me a run down of the written testing (specific's please) at the Y.O.U Session.
Thankyou kindly.
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Old 19th Sep 2009, 15:31
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The YOU session is basic maths, vocabulary, and problem/pattern solving. It's stuff that you should be able to do without studying at all, unless you're absolutely hopeless at Maths and English.

The only thing which some might find remotely hard in the test (if you did 'vegie maths' in high school) is the bits of trigonometry/trigonometric ratios thrown in.
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Old 20th Sep 2009, 09:00
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Wow :)

(I'm new here, don't mind me)

This thread is absolute gold, I have no idea what I'd do without the 20+ pages on here.

I'm currently in High School over in Perth (10th Grade to be more exact), and like most others here, being a Pilot is the only damn thing in the world I could see myself doing, so like any committed person, I've been trying to do some prep for the YOU session and hopefully Specialist Testing in pursuit of ADFA-Entry Pilot. At the moment I've bought the "Wings Book" from here : Get Your Wings. How to become a Pilot in the Royal Australian Air Force. (RAAF) And I've downloaded a book called "Military Flight Aptitude Tests" by Solomon Wiener, which looked pretty good, but it's tailored for applicants aspiring for the US Armed Forces (Are their tests *that* different to ours?)

So without getting too long winded

- Are there any other books/materials that would be of use?
- For someone aspiring to ADFA, how badly would only doing double maths in Year 12 affect me? (There's been a major course overhaul for maths over here, so yes, that IS possible)
- In regards to the maths end of Pilot Specialist Testing (assuming I get that far), what are the questions like? Are they "Aviation Maths" focused or more general?
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Old 22nd Sep 2009, 00:34
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Old 22nd Sep 2009, 08:26
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You're in year 10, so you won't be applying for a while, but it's good to see you're enthusiastic.

What exactly is 'double maths'? The lowest form of maths is NOT acceptable as a pilot, so if it's the lowest level of maths in your state, then make sure you don't take that level of maths. The full education minimums are here - ADF Pilot Selection Agency: Royal Australian Air Force

The spec testing has aircraft nose and bank attitude recognition, aviation maths problems (fairly simple) and gauge recognition, as well as a whole load of other stuff. Keep in mind the spec testing is 4 hours, and speed is important, so there is a lot of stuff you'll do.

Don't bother with any other books or materials, but then again, I find most maths relatively easy. Try have some previous flying experience if you have the money and skills as well.

EDIT: Wow, you're 15... you can't apply until you're 16 and 6 months, so you have quite a while - no need to focus on the ADF testing at all right now, just focus on doing well at school, and when you turn 16, try get some previous flying experience then.
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Old 22nd Sep 2009, 08:40
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Hello all, I'm also new!

Firstly, I'd also like to say a HUGE thank you to all the people who have made contributions to this merged thread over the years. The advice and general discussion in here has been a monumental help, and a lot of inspiration. It's so pleasing to see so many aspirations turn into a reality. Well done to all you guys and girls who have been selected!


A bit about me: I'm 27, and I've just finished my apprenticeship in Aircraft Maintenance Engineering, working in the Deep Maintenance of the C-130H at RAAF Base Richmond (hence waiting till now to submit my application). I stumbled across this thread at the start of this year, and submitted my Direct Entry application at the start of July. I passed the YOU session and the Specialist testing in July and August, and I'm in preparation now for the Assessment session which I have on the 29th - next Tuesday.

I was just wondering, is anyone aware of how early the flight screening courses get booked out? I've looked at the flight screening schedule for the rest of this year, and there's only 4 DEO courses left - starting the 10th, 17th, 24th, and 31st of October. Assuming I do well enough in my interviews on the 29th of this month (fingers crossed!), which courses, if any, would still have positions yet to be allocated? If it's possible for me to receive an offer for the start of next year, I want nothing more than to be there!




Dilmah: I have both of those books.

Wings is OK, but it does seem to contain a lot of information that is available off the RAAF sites, a lot even copy-pasted by the look of it.

The 'Military Flight Aptitude Tests' book is pretty good. There's a few tests/types of questions that are common to our tests (for example the stuff on instrument comprehension/aircraft attitudes), but most of their tests are different. It's still good just getting used to completing tests in the specified time frame.

Another thing I found helpful was a workbook you can download from Flight Aptitude Test Guide for RAF OASC Cranwell FATS - about $15. Gets you used to the Time Speed Distance questions. They're not particularly difficult questions, it's just useful to speed up your calculations.

Here is another Time Speed Distance source. Not as good, but free.

Here - Another useful thread if you need the practice.


There is some 'general' maths, more so in the YOU session testing, but the Spec testing I'd say is more 'Aviation Maths'.

I hope that's helpful!


Also, good luck KuneDo and the dos. Hopefully I'm right behind you. K:
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Old 22nd Sep 2009, 11:41
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Thanks Jimwyze. Best of luck to you also. I'm sure you'll do fine, just keep at it.
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Old 23rd Sep 2009, 02:18
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Tony360: I've seen the website, lowest form of maths acceptable is Applicable, which is roughly equivalent to what I'll be taking in Year 12 + the equivalent of G+T, which is the subject that leads onto Calculus. And as far as age goes, I'll be 16 and a half in 10 months, so I'll be putting my application in during the next year. I've got about 40 minutes on an introductory flight in a 152, and about 4 hours right-seating on a 172 a few years ago. School grades are hovering around B+ to A- at the moment, so I'd say they were *okay* for the time being. I'm guessing they count a lot for ADFA applicants? On that note, if one were to ace Spec Testing and have B+/A- kind of grades, would it count more than someone who had just passed Spec Testing and had A+'s all round in relation to Flight Screening spots? jimwyze: Thanks a million for those links. Yeah, I noticed the copy-pasting going on in the Wings Book (Oh, and Good Luck to you!). I can do the spatial questions with the aircraft and the compass fairly easily that they have in the American Book + The Wings Book, Instrument Reading seems to get a fair few people down though..
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Old 24th Sep 2009, 10:22
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B+ and A- grades are fine, pilot applicants aren't all geniuses and don't need anything more than a B average to get in with the educational requirements. What's more important is aptitude test performance, interview performance, and performance at FSP.

Also, when I said flying experience, I meant having some sort of licence, at least an SPL, or at the *very* least, some time as pilot in command - in the left seat.
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