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jhurditch,
Judging by your first post I was led to believe that you where attempting your pilot aptitude test, when in fact it was the YOU session that you were attempting...
Nonetheless, if you purchase some puzzle books, such as "Improve your IQ", you will improve your ability to tackle visual patterns and 'abstract reasoning' based questions. It will also sharpen your mind and condition your brain for the type of questions you're likely to encounter.
You seem pretty confident in the mathematical side of things, although I remember quite a few questions based on 'pythagoras theorem' if that helps.
Best of luck for your future attempt!
Blackbird
Judging by your first post I was led to believe that you where attempting your pilot aptitude test, when in fact it was the YOU session that you were attempting...
Nonetheless, if you purchase some puzzle books, such as "Improve your IQ", you will improve your ability to tackle visual patterns and 'abstract reasoning' based questions. It will also sharpen your mind and condition your brain for the type of questions you're likely to encounter.
You seem pretty confident in the mathematical side of things, although I remember quite a few questions based on 'pythagoras theorem' if that helps.
Best of luck for your future attempt!
Blackbird
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As far as I am aware no such software exists. Your best bet is to scour the net for examples of the types of questions your likely to come across in the testing.
Mental arithmetic, raw data, distance, speed and time can all be researched through the internet. As you have sat the test previously, you should have a fair idea as to what you will encounter. I'd also advise that you become comfortable with the very basic instruments in an aeroplane, as there are questions based around quick, accurate reading and interpretation of them.
Hope this helps!!
Blackbird
As far as I am aware no such software exists. Your best bet is to scour the net for examples of the types of questions your likely to come across in the testing.
Mental arithmetic, raw data, distance, speed and time can all be researched through the internet. As you have sat the test previously, you should have a fair idea as to what you will encounter. I'd also advise that you become comfortable with the very basic instruments in an aeroplane, as there are questions based around quick, accurate reading and interpretation of them.
Hope this helps!!
Blackbird
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I don't own this space under my name. I should have leased it while I still could
You find it is 1 cm too much - you will panic.
You find it is 1 cm within - you will panic in case you got it wrong.
Relax. Let the experts measure you accurately against their criteria. Only thing that you might consider is whethr you think you are normal yourself. If you are short in the body you will be long in the legs. If you are long in the body you will be short in the legs. What is your inside leg measurement? 31 is average, 33 is tall, and 35 is gangly.
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What is your inside leg measurement? 31 is average, 33 is tall, and 35 is gangly.
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Blackbird14,
I understand the predicament you are in having been in a similar situation myself. Although in my case it was a question of being below the minimum height requirements. As I stand as 161.5cm (1.5cm short of the minimum) I was told I was permanently unfit for pilot training. But after undertaking functional testing on a number of aircraft I was cleared and was able to resume my application. I am now waiting for a position at Flight Screening, so fingers crossed, will be heading up to Tamworth in the next couple of months.
So from my experience I understand that if you are just outside the requirements, additional testing is done to measure your suitability. I just wanted to let you know about this procedure as if I had known about it previously I'm sure I would have avoided a lot of undue stress.
Good luck with your application and if you have any further questions please dont hesitate to ask!
I understand the predicament you are in having been in a similar situation myself. Although in my case it was a question of being below the minimum height requirements. As I stand as 161.5cm (1.5cm short of the minimum) I was told I was permanently unfit for pilot training. But after undertaking functional testing on a number of aircraft I was cleared and was able to resume my application. I am now waiting for a position at Flight Screening, so fingers crossed, will be heading up to Tamworth in the next couple of months.
So from my experience I understand that if you are just outside the requirements, additional testing is done to measure your suitability. I just wanted to let you know about this procedure as if I had known about it previously I'm sure I would have avoided a lot of undue stress.
Good luck with your application and if you have any further questions please dont hesitate to ask!
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Hi all,
Just wanting to get some recommendation as to how and where i should some flying hours before FSP? I live half-way between Amberly and Brisbane (Closer to Amberly).
I'm thinking about getting 3-5hrs of flying before FSP - is that possible? And from what i've been reading - alot of hrs is taken up in the class-room, not in the air.
Just wanting to get some recommendation as to how and where i should some flying hours before FSP? I live half-way between Amberly and Brisbane (Closer to Amberly).
I'm thinking about getting 3-5hrs of flying before FSP - is that possible? And from what i've been reading - alot of hrs is taken up in the class-room, not in the air.
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Kitchen_bench,
I did my FSP about a month ago and arrived with about 3 hours of flight experience (and these three were done over a year ago, so it might as well have been no previous experience).
I reckon that you don't need any previous experience, as they really do teach you everything up there anyway. The only reason you'd want to get some hours up would be to show enthusiasm, but even then you can show that through your job research, going to air shows, talking to pilots and stuff like that.
And yeh, most nights (and days in the crew room when you're not up in the air) are spent reading your notes, drawing your ciruits, chair flying etc.
Best of luck
I did my FSP about a month ago and arrived with about 3 hours of flight experience (and these three were done over a year ago, so it might as well have been no previous experience).
I reckon that you don't need any previous experience, as they really do teach you everything up there anyway. The only reason you'd want to get some hours up would be to show enthusiasm, but even then you can show that through your job research, going to air shows, talking to pilots and stuff like that.
And yeh, most nights (and days in the crew room when you're not up in the air) are spent reading your notes, drawing your ciruits, chair flying etc.
Best of luck
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GMC1989,
Thanks for the advice, it has put my mind at ease. I'm in a good mood today nonetheless, because I passed my pilot aptitude testing this afternoon. I have to say it was slightly more difficult then I expected. Anyway, on to assesement day, I'm just waiting for a call from my case manager to set the next date.
Thanks for the advice, it has put my mind at ease. I'm in a good mood today nonetheless, because I passed my pilot aptitude testing this afternoon. I have to say it was slightly more difficult then I expected. Anyway, on to assesement day, I'm just waiting for a call from my case manager to set the next date.
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Hey lads,
I have my assessment day coming up, which includes a psych interview, an interview with a senior officer and a medical.
How should I prepare for the psych interview? And what sort of questions will I be asked with the officer interview?
Thanks in advance
Blackbird
I have my assessment day coming up, which includes a psych interview, an interview with a senior officer and a medical.
How should I prepare for the psych interview? And what sort of questions will I be asked with the officer interview?
Thanks in advance
Blackbird
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G'day Blackbird,
My psych was pretty straight forward, just asking things like how many close friends you have, how you relax, deal with stress, maybe your emotions at hard times in your life...just pretty much things like that, pretty straight forward, just be ready to answer with the truth,i dont think you really need to run many questions over in your mind.
The other interview though was at a much higher level. You really do have to know everything about the job, because they sit at the other end of the desk with a screen looking at the website, and so its from the defencejobs site that they ask a lot of things. The basics like why you want to be a pilot, what you can offer to the defence force, what leadership is, officer qualities, your leadership experience and such will be there. I pre thought all the question over in my head before going in, but my rehearsed answers weren't what they wanted so i spent a lot of time stumbling around answers and fixing them up
basically they ask a lot about where your training is, what aircraft you will fly, for how long, pay and benefits. I was given 2 days notice of my assessment day, so just spent an entire day taking notes from defencejobs and the RAAF site, learning current operations and future plans of RAAF, basically everything i could. In the end i thought i had failed the interview big time, but somehow he said he saw too much potential to not let me through so i was recommended, im sure you will do fine. BTW i have little leadership experience so if your like me try an convince them you are still a good leader, and i just remembered try not to fidget around, just stay calm and dont act nervous or talk too fast- basically like any interview.
My psych was pretty straight forward, just asking things like how many close friends you have, how you relax, deal with stress, maybe your emotions at hard times in your life...just pretty much things like that, pretty straight forward, just be ready to answer with the truth,i dont think you really need to run many questions over in your mind.
The other interview though was at a much higher level. You really do have to know everything about the job, because they sit at the other end of the desk with a screen looking at the website, and so its from the defencejobs site that they ask a lot of things. The basics like why you want to be a pilot, what you can offer to the defence force, what leadership is, officer qualities, your leadership experience and such will be there. I pre thought all the question over in my head before going in, but my rehearsed answers weren't what they wanted so i spent a lot of time stumbling around answers and fixing them up
basically they ask a lot about where your training is, what aircraft you will fly, for how long, pay and benefits. I was given 2 days notice of my assessment day, so just spent an entire day taking notes from defencejobs and the RAAF site, learning current operations and future plans of RAAF, basically everything i could. In the end i thought i had failed the interview big time, but somehow he said he saw too much potential to not let me through so i was recommended, im sure you will do fine. BTW i have little leadership experience so if your like me try an convince them you are still a good leader, and i just remembered try not to fidget around, just stay calm and dont act nervous or talk too fast- basically like any interview.
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Ok, Im getting ready to go in for my spec testing. I think I'm about as prepped as I can ever be, except for one thing - the raw data test. This one is driving me nuts, because its obviously a skill you can develop, but the nature of the test eludes me...
So basically, I've heard its like:
3426 x 1234 + 222 or
235,000 / 12 x 9854
46,000 ....25
With multiple choice answers. Can anyone help me out here? Has anyone done it recently and can give me some examples?
So basically, I've heard its like:
3426 x 1234 + 222 or
235,000 / 12 x 9854
46,000 ....25
With multiple choice answers. Can anyone help me out here? Has anyone done it recently and can give me some examples?
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Hey guys, first of all thank you to everyone that has posted on the site. It has been incredibly helpful and has definitely helped me to get where I am so far.
I have received notice that I have been offered a place at FSP on the 8th of August (course 200932). Just wondering if there is anyone else who checks this site who is on the same course? Also if there is anyone who has recently been to FSP and may have some handy hints that they picked up.
Cheers.
I have received notice that I have been offered a place at FSP on the 8th of August (course 200932). Just wondering if there is anyone else who checks this site who is on the same course? Also if there is anyone who has recently been to FSP and may have some handy hints that they picked up.
Cheers.
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"One section I know I failed (the longer problem solving booklet), while things such as fast instrument reading I'm glad to say that I got very close to 100% in, which probably saved me from failing altogether."
Did they tell you the results of your tests? I was not given any scores when I completed the testing recently. I was under the impression that you had to apply for your results via Canberra, or something of the like.
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In that case how do you know if you failed a section and got close to 100% in the other? Or is that just an assumption you made after completing the test. From what I gather you cannot fail any section of the testing. If you fail a section you do not get credited with a pass.
To be honest mate, I don't really want to see your test results, I haven't even had a look at my own. I suggest showing your parents....
To be honest mate, I don't really want to see your test results, I haven't even had a look at my own. I suggest showing your parents....
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Fellas and chickidees,
Just putting my 2 cents worth in - I had my pilot's spec testing on monday (just gone - july 20th). I really wish I had joined this forum earlier, as my preparations really were quite ordinary, and I had none to blame but myself. Out of the whole battery, I didn't score high enough on the instrument comprehension test. The psychologist did tell me I scored 15/28, which wasn't high enough to meet their minimum standards. By law she wasn't allowed to tell me what those standards were, but it wouldn't be too hard to have a guess at. What I really want to say is - if there is anyone out there that's a bit unsure about what's involved with the spec testing, let me know because I'd be more than happy to share some tips. As for me, it's a 12 month period before I can resit, and that surely is sucky. To everyone else, good luck in your assessment days, flight screenings and officer board selections! If you could keep everyone informed as you progress, that would be wicked!
Just putting my 2 cents worth in - I had my pilot's spec testing on monday (just gone - july 20th). I really wish I had joined this forum earlier, as my preparations really were quite ordinary, and I had none to blame but myself. Out of the whole battery, I didn't score high enough on the instrument comprehension test. The psychologist did tell me I scored 15/28, which wasn't high enough to meet their minimum standards. By law she wasn't allowed to tell me what those standards were, but it wouldn't be too hard to have a guess at. What I really want to say is - if there is anyone out there that's a bit unsure about what's involved with the spec testing, let me know because I'd be more than happy to share some tips. As for me, it's a 12 month period before I can resit, and that surely is sucky. To everyone else, good luck in your assessment days, flight screenings and officer board selections! If you could keep everyone informed as you progress, that would be wicked!
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GMC1989 and Georgo,
What was your waiting periods between Spec Testing and Assessment Day? I passed the Spec Testing on the 2nd of June and still haven't heard anything regarding my Assessment date...
Cheers,
Blackbird
What was your waiting periods between Spec Testing and Assessment Day? I passed the Spec Testing on the 2nd of June and still haven't heard anything regarding my Assessment date...
Cheers,
Blackbird
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Blackbird - I had a 4 month wait between my Spec Testing and Assessment Day. I live about 8 hours from Townsville (where I had my testing and interviews) so it took a bit longer for me due to travel and work.
It may seem like it is taking a long time, but use the time to research and read as much as possible. The more you know for your Defence interview the better your recommendation may be, and the more motivated you appear to the interviewer.
It may seem like it is taking a long time, but use the time to research and read as much as possible. The more you know for your Defence interview the better your recommendation may be, and the more motivated you appear to the interviewer.