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Old 11th Jan 2007, 13:28
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Seems to me that too many people have lives that appear to revolve around t'interweb and should get out more...a lot more.

This is the funniest thread I've ever come across on PPRuNe.
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Old 11th Jan 2007, 13:30
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Oh great. Conspiracy theories now. Chemtrails a PPRuNe plot, anyone?

Incidentally, for those poor souls who feel that this forum is getting an unwarranted amount of attention from the mods, with threads being locked all over the place, have you looked in Rumours and News ever? At any one time, half the threads on the first page will have been locked and/or moved. Same in Wannabes, Jetblast, Dunnunda & Godzone and many others*. Mil Aircrew gets a very light touch in comparison.

Scroggs

* Perhaps our conspiracy theorist can suggest which forums are going to be left for the mystery commercial buyer now?
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Old 11th Jan 2007, 13:56
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So your proud that several other forums get heavy handed attention from Mods? And you think that this one deserves the same handling?

I think you guys seem to have sprung a leak in your think tank.

Ciao ciao, I'll sit back and watch this sad state of affairs.

Ohhhhhh feel the mod power.
 
Old 11th Jan 2007, 14:06
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Just so long as nobody cuts the 'Caption Competition' thread.
That's probably the main reason I peruse this site.
Love Rob's comments though.
PMSL at those - best laugh in ages.
Cheers Dood
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Old 11th Jan 2007, 14:14
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I'm new to this and sadly won't continue the journey. A good few posts here on REAL aviation issues affecting us in the Mil, but sadly, as quite clearly pointed out, Mil Forums does not appear to be wanted here.

I appreciate the Mod/Owners view, but that doesn't stop Rob coming across as an arrogant sod in the way he has sold it.

So goodbye, please delete my account as I don't appear to be able to.
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Old 11th Jan 2007, 14:17
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Originally Posted by GPMG View Post
So your proud that several other forums get heavy handed attention from Mods? And you think that this one deserves the same handling?
Oh dear, it seems the message is not getting through to the hard of reading. Of the 220 threads currently visible on Mil Aircrew from the last month, 8 have been locked in the last three weeks for the reasons Rob gave, and one further has been locked for abuse. Two threads have been deleted by their originators. None have been deleted or moved by moderators. That is evidence of a very light touch. Now, if that level of moderation offends you, go somewhere else. I very much doubt you'll be missed.

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Old 11th Jan 2007, 14:24
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Originally Posted by Mr-AEO View Post
I'm new to this and sadly won't continue the journey. A good few posts here on REAL aviation issues affecting us in the Mil, but sadly, as quite clearly pointed out, Mil Forums does not appear to be wanted here.
More tosh. Mil Aircrew has been here for many years. It will continue to be here in years to come. It is most certainly wanted, but it is offered for your use on our terms, not yours.

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Old 11th Jan 2007, 14:26
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Rob, Danny et al

Prune is fun and all credit to you guys for running it.

Rob, in your recent posts you seem to have forgotten that without the contributors, your site is worth 2/8 of 3/5 of f*ck all!

As you're plainly not doing it for a living and you don't care what the posters want or think, why are you doing it?

Surely the point of running the thing at all is to elicit and marshall the thoughts of your fellows.

Why not fess up to the real reason for deleting threads- which is that you don't like anything which conflicts too directly with your own opinions.

Thus making you seem rather narrow minded.

IMHO of course.
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Old 11th Jan 2007, 14:27
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Originally Posted by Mr-AEO View Post

So goodbye, please delete my account as I don't appear to be able to.
Account? Doesn't an account involve money?
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Old 11th Jan 2007, 14:32
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Well some people have given a very clear account of themselves and others demonstrate that there's no accounting for opinion!

Cheers

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Old 11th Jan 2007, 14:33
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One thing is for certain, the amount of bitching, whining and moaning appearing on this thread leaves us in no doubt that this in a aircrew forum.
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Old 11th Jan 2007, 14:57
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Perhaps the issue now is not what threads have been locked / moved, how the mil forum is managed / moderated, etc, but what has been said and done since?

Maybe if this is getting too much to handle, you should get someone to manage it for you? Maybe you should go commercial? Maybe you should lock it down to registered users, or those who have paid for a title? Perhaps we're seeing an emerging tentative change of direction from the site owners, and perhaps they are unsure of where to go from here, and its showing in the comments made?

Comparing this site to the likes of FriendsReunited isn't valid - it always has been a commercial site - this hasn't. Its also owned by ITV - a commercial company.

If you want to change direction, it would be nice to be told. Speak to your users. Be civil with them. Treat them as adults. We'll do whatever you want probably! We'll understand! Tell us, what exactly is the problem? What is the difference between what YOU want, and what WE seem to want? What would we need to do to help you get what WE ALL want? A moderator? Some forum rules? Help us out here! In words of 1 syllable! Help us understand!

The people making comments here obviously give enough of a crap about PPRuNe to speak up - so take advantage of us! We might not have paid, we might be PITA users, but we're here! Let us help! Ask us, dont alienate us - you might be surprised at the results! (you might not - who knows.... )

PPRuNe isn't my life - my other forum is my life. This is just a little affair I keep having....
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Old 11th Jan 2007, 15:15
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I never realised my fellow ppruners were such sensitive souls! I commend Scroggs on his exceptional patience and recommend we get over it. So a few threads were closed, the sun will come up tomorrow and life will go on.
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Old 11th Jan 2007, 15:33
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Originally Posted by Whirlygig View Post
Well some people have given a very clear account of themselves and others demonstrate that there's no accounting for opinion!

Cheers

Whirls
Well you would say that wouldn't you, on account of you being an bean counter.
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Old 11th Jan 2007, 16:19
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Grrr

Notwithstanding his forthright comments on the userbase of this site, I have to agree with the comments made by Rob over these pages. It's their trainset and they can do with it as they please.

I used to frequent PPRuNe a fair bit in years gone by and have "followed" the site since the early days of the daily PPRuNe email. When the military forum started up there was some interesting stuff on here and many people would read and enjoy it. Nowadays there really is an awful lot of crap posted and mostly it's just pointless whinging by prima donnas who flounce off declaring that the end is nigh and that they're going to PVR imminently. Yeah, whatever.

I for one would be glad to see a return to the good ole days of interesting, aviation-relevant threads and intelligent banter, not the drooling toss that seems to permeate so many threads these days.

And for those you cancelling your subscriptions in a dramatic, Private Eye kinda way, bye - don't let the door hit your arse on the way out.

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Old 11th Jan 2007, 17:00
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As a fairly recent joiner and infrequent poster, I have to say I'm right behind the mods. The trainset ownership rule fully applies. For the talk of censorship; no-one's stopping you saying anything on your own site/blog/photocopied newsheet, but if the guys who own this site don't want stuff on it, it's right for said stuff to be removed. Whingeing about principles and suchlike strikes me as a tad barrackroom-lawyeresque and, frankly, seems like a waste of time as the mods' tone isn't that of people about to bow to pressure.

As it is I find the forum interesting and will continue to read it (and add my occasional ha'penn'orth) as long as it continues to be so. And to avoid putting any more load on the poor overstrained server, I'll post no more to this thread and urge everyone else to do the same.
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Old 11th Jan 2007, 17:05
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The most serious thing that I've noted about this thread(which everyone else seems to have missed), is that ABIW appears to have stopped drinking! Is the poor chap ill??
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Old 11th Jan 2007, 17:17
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Probably just Skint, waiting for JPA to pay him his beer chits post Christmas.
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Old 11th Jan 2007, 17:24
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The most serious thing that I've noted about this thread(which everyone else seems to have missed), is that ABIW appears to have stopped drinking! Is the poor chap ill??
Only cos it's the end of the festivities and the d/f is blown. He'll restock PDQ I should think.


Oops...........sorry, is banter still on the agenda ?
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Old 11th Jan 2007, 17:41
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I think the mods are really superb and have drawn out the true feelings of many military types who frequent these pages. One must draw ones own conclusions about the mental state of some of them but we must also presume that those who take themeselves away because they cannot get their own way are a very small minority of military aircrew. At least let us hope so
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