Tony Blair's Departure
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Seafuryfan - I hope most servicemen and women consider themselves to be fighting for Queen and country - New labour and it's Lieutenants is hardly worth getting out of bed for !
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"We now have a situation where America is so unpopular overseas that even in countries like Egypt and Jordan our approval ratings are less than 5 per cent. It is a shameful and pitiful state of affairs and I hold your British prime minister to be substantially responsible for being so compliant and subservient"
Former US President Jimmy Carter.
Former US President Jimmy Carter.
Amazing how he's grown a set since leaving office! Too bad he didn't do much while IN office. (And since breaking the tradition of not criticizing succeeding Presidents.)
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QFIhawkman - I was there when Maggie and Dennis came to Port Stanley and I flew them round a few places on the island too. It may have been 24 years ago but she made a good morale-boosting visit to the troops.
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I was no great fan of Maggie; she had many of the same self-opinionated faults as Tony Bliar. But she was certainly nobody's poodle.
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Before mouthing off about you Yanks
The problem with you yanks is you never learn any lessons do you? You never bother to look back in history because you have very little of it. You will loose in Iraq not because the Islamists are a tough enemy, you will loose as you are stupid and never learnt from your mistakes in the 60's. Tell me this my friend, if you believe so much in liberty, why not sort out other nations that are falling apart before going for the ones that are capable of screwing the US economy?
Oh, it must be nice to work for a government that respects its forces, doesnt expect them to pay council tax or Income tax whilst away, gives them more phone minutes than its prisoners back home, doesnt screw with ROE for political reasons and LISTENS to its people.
Please realize that all Americans do not support our Cowboy Unintelligible Prezdet. If I hear him say "terrorishts" one more time I am going spontaneously combust.
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Special Edition - Pot Calls Kettle Black
According to one very close confidant of Tony Blair, the Prime Minister told friends: 'I have never known how mendacious he [Gordon Brown] was, how full of mendacity.'
Brown's behaviour showed he lacked the 'honesty, integrity and trustworthiness' required, the source added. - Guardian, 10 September 2006.
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Note that Bliar has visited the families of the 2 Israelis captured by Hezbollah - but not visited many, if any, of the families of UK personall killed out in the ME
As an aside, Ppruners need to do some serious reading - when Dubya came to power, his familly wealth stood at only a few million dollars - since then, through "contracts" in the Middle East, his 'background' brother has massaged the family fortune to about $16 billion!!!
I can only imagine he convinced the locals to supply Wal-Mart with a year round supply of pork sausages and hamburgers for American Bar-B-Qs, at the same time, keeping the cost of a US gallon (4 litres) at $1.80 ( 90p )
If you've not been there - Americans still believe that there are 16 ozs to a pound weight (mass) , so there must be 16 ozs to a gallon - when there are 20! (specific gravity) !
Hencethe difference with pump delivery values and beer glass sizes
When I mentioned this to a fisherman (and RedNeck), he said " Your'e a Brit right?"
I said " Yes, the Pope is not a Catholic and the Mexicans put the first man on the Moon"
He said "Thats ridiculous"
So I said "Yes I agree, but a V12, 5 litre truck doing 12mpg, at $1.80 a gallon to go fishing 2 miles away is also ridiculous"
" No Sir, you don't understand - we always put the fish back, so we don't destroy the ozone layer!!"
Now I understand
As an aside, Ppruners need to do some serious reading - when Dubya came to power, his familly wealth stood at only a few million dollars - since then, through "contracts" in the Middle East, his 'background' brother has massaged the family fortune to about $16 billion!!!
I can only imagine he convinced the locals to supply Wal-Mart with a year round supply of pork sausages and hamburgers for American Bar-B-Qs, at the same time, keeping the cost of a US gallon (4 litres) at $1.80 ( 90p )
If you've not been there - Americans still believe that there are 16 ozs to a pound weight (mass) , so there must be 16 ozs to a gallon - when there are 20! (specific gravity) !
Hencethe difference with pump delivery values and beer glass sizes
When I mentioned this to a fisherman (and RedNeck), he said " Your'e a Brit right?"
I said " Yes, the Pope is not a Catholic and the Mexicans put the first man on the Moon"
He said "Thats ridiculous"
So I said "Yes I agree, but a V12, 5 litre truck doing 12mpg, at $1.80 a gallon to go fishing 2 miles away is also ridiculous"
" No Sir, you don't understand - we always put the fish back, so we don't destroy the ozone layer!!"
Now I understand
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As an aside, Ppruners need to do some serious reading - when Dubya came to power, his familly wealth stood at only a few million dollars - since then, through "contracts" in the Middle East, his 'background' brother has massaged the family fortune to about $16 billion!!!
.....at the same time, keeping the cost of a US gallon (4 litres) at $1.80 ( 90p )
If you've not been there - Americans still believe that there are 16 ozs to a pound weight (mass) , so there must be 16 ozs to a gallon - when there are 20! (specific gravity) !
Hencethe difference with pump delivery values and beer glass sizes
When I mentioned this to a fisherman (and RedNeck), he said " Your'e a Brit right?"
I said " Yes, the Pope is not a Catholic and the Mexicans put the first man on the Moon"
He said "Thats ridiculous"
So I said "Yes I agree, but a V12, 5 litre truck doing 12mpg, at $1.80 a gallon to go fishing 2 miles away is also ridiculous"
.....at the same time, keeping the cost of a US gallon (4 litres) at $1.80 ( 90p )
If you've not been there - Americans still believe that there are 16 ozs to a pound weight (mass) , so there must be 16 ozs to a gallon - when there are 20! (specific gravity) !
Hencethe difference with pump delivery values and beer glass sizes
When I mentioned this to a fisherman (and RedNeck), he said " Your'e a Brit right?"
I said " Yes, the Pope is not a Catholic and the Mexicans put the first man on the Moon"
He said "Thats ridiculous"
So I said "Yes I agree, but a V12, 5 litre truck doing 12mpg, at $1.80 a gallon to go fishing 2 miles away is also ridiculous"
What is your source for Bush's wealth? $16B?! I think we'd have heard of that. Lord knows, the other side wouldn't waste any chance to have at the President.
$1.80 a gallon? Where? I'll damn sure drive my monster SUV there to buy it! Average currently is around $ 2.85-ish a gallon.
It is a wonderful thing that Britain has a nation full of thoughtful, erudite citizens and not filled with "Rednecks" like my own poor, pitiful country. "Chavs," I believe is one of the terms for a segment of your population perhaps not entirely at the top of their game? But that's different, I guess.
And for driving a V12 at no miles per gallon? First, where can I find one of those? A V12? Are you kidding me?! I have got to get one! Second, isn't great that I get to live in such a country? I truly am blessed. Seems a lot of your countrymen agree and if they don't live here fulltime, certainly spend a good part of the year here. Hmm, why is that?
Thank you again for explaining America.
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My brother in law is married to a good 'ol Georgia girl. Having visited the State and her family, I don't think I've ever met such a hospitable lot anywhere in the world.
They are midly surprised to find that we think Blair is a complete
They are midly surprised to find that we think Blair is a complete
"A V12? Are you kidding me?! I have got to get one!"
Errm, Jaguar (that's 'Jag-yoo-arr', not 'Jag-warr', by the way) first sold V12s in 1972. Available in the E-type (you called it the XK-E for some odd reason) and the XJ-12. And in the Daimler Double Six - don't know if that made it across the pond? Somehow I doubt it - too much class.
Also, Mercedes-Benz have had a V12 engine option in the SL and other cars for quite a few years.
And, of course, around 40 years ago, BRM were firing up their H16!!
V8? Some sort of vegetable juice, isn't it?
Errm, Jaguar (that's 'Jag-yoo-arr', not 'Jag-warr', by the way) first sold V12s in 1972. Available in the E-type (you called it the XK-E for some odd reason) and the XJ-12. And in the Daimler Double Six - don't know if that made it across the pond? Somehow I doubt it - too much class.
Also, Mercedes-Benz have had a V12 engine option in the SL and other cars for quite a few years.
And, of course, around 40 years ago, BRM were firing up their H16!!
V8? Some sort of vegetable juice, isn't it?
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Mike,
Thanks! Just grabbed the Chav reference to refute another poster.
BEagle,
Copy all about the V12, however, in the SUV flavor, I didn't know of any, yet another poster felt compelled to lecture on the perils thereof.
Jaguar? While I can admire the eye candy of some of their past cars, in my own experience, brought one home as a surprise for Mrs. Brick. With tail between legs, back to the dealer I returned. Kept the Volvo instead....West Coast, can I stay in the US?
Regarding your "too much class" shot, I think the company is now DaimlerChrysler. Guess 'class' didn't pay the bills. Oh, come to think of it, who is the parent company of Jag-warr again?
Thanks! Just grabbed the Chav reference to refute another poster.
BEagle,
Copy all about the V12, however, in the SUV flavor, I didn't know of any, yet another poster felt compelled to lecture on the perils thereof.
Jaguar? While I can admire the eye candy of some of their past cars, in my own experience, brought one home as a surprise for Mrs. Brick. With tail between legs, back to the dealer I returned. Kept the Volvo instead....West Coast, can I stay in the US?
Regarding your "too much class" shot, I think the company is now DaimlerChrysler. Guess 'class' didn't pay the bills. Oh, come to think of it, who is the parent company of Jag-warr again?
Brick
I suspect yer a gud god fearin, gun toten, commie hatin reeepuublican (how was that beagle?) so you can stay.
"a V12, 5 litre truck doing 12mpg"
Only five litre? Those cylinders must be awfully small. My 12 cylinder would displace at least 7 or so litres if I had one. You seem to have the pulse of 300 plus million Americans. You must be smart. What type of truck was it btw?
I suspect yer a gud god fearin, gun toten, commie hatin reeepuublican (how was that beagle?) so you can stay.
"a V12, 5 litre truck doing 12mpg"
Only five litre? Those cylinders must be awfully small. My 12 cylinder would displace at least 7 or so litres if I had one. You seem to have the pulse of 300 plus million Americans. You must be smart. What type of truck was it btw?
How was it? Accurate, I'd say!
I don't know of a SUV with a V12 - but the truly mad Dodge SRT-10 pick-up might perhaps suit sir's requirements? A little 8.3 litre, 500 hp V10 'standard pick up truck' with a 0-60 in the low 5s, 150 mph+, no doubt to outrun Sheriff Rosco P Coltrane whilst letting out a rebel yell, it returns a mere 12 mpg highway, 9 mpg city (USG)........
No doubt you can get it with roof spots, 108 inch antenna, shotgun racks, one-eyed dog, giggling half-wit in the passenger seat drinking moonshine from a jam jar?
Gloriously non-PC - they should call it the Dodge Kyoto to really pi$$ off the enviro-fundamentalists!
The 'snob appeal' of the Double-Six was crazy. Same car as the XJ-12 but with different badging to appeal to those who considered the Jag-yoo-arr too common....
Lousy unreliable things 20-30 years ago - but fine today. Back then the UK was at the mercy of trade unions, then Maggie took them on - and won. If only she'd stopped there and then instead of encouraging the yuppie-in-red-braces greed of the mid-80s which turned people away from Conservative government. Then the disaster of John 'It's good to be grey' Major's government gave a landslide victory to the slime of NooLabor and Tony-the-poodle who obediently trots across the pond with tongue hanging out whenever Mad George clicks his fingers....
But still not as bad as the grumpy Grn Brun.....
I don't know of a SUV with a V12 - but the truly mad Dodge SRT-10 pick-up might perhaps suit sir's requirements? A little 8.3 litre, 500 hp V10 'standard pick up truck' with a 0-60 in the low 5s, 150 mph+, no doubt to outrun Sheriff Rosco P Coltrane whilst letting out a rebel yell, it returns a mere 12 mpg highway, 9 mpg city (USG)........
No doubt you can get it with roof spots, 108 inch antenna, shotgun racks, one-eyed dog, giggling half-wit in the passenger seat drinking moonshine from a jam jar?
Gloriously non-PC - they should call it the Dodge Kyoto to really pi$$ off the enviro-fundamentalists!
The 'snob appeal' of the Double-Six was crazy. Same car as the XJ-12 but with different badging to appeal to those who considered the Jag-yoo-arr too common....
Lousy unreliable things 20-30 years ago - but fine today. Back then the UK was at the mercy of trade unions, then Maggie took them on - and won. If only she'd stopped there and then instead of encouraging the yuppie-in-red-braces greed of the mid-80s which turned people away from Conservative government. Then the disaster of John 'It's good to be grey' Major's government gave a landslide victory to the slime of NooLabor and Tony-the-poodle who obediently trots across the pond with tongue hanging out whenever Mad George clicks his fingers....
But still not as bad as the grumpy Grn Brun.....
