Tony Blair's Departure
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Tony Blair's Departure
Tony is preparing a 'Presidential' departure, visiting high profile venues within the UK and appearing on high profile TV programmes.
Where/ who else should he visit?
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The Service families of all those who have died/ been injured in conflict since he came to power.
Where/ who else should he visit?
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The Service families of all those who have died/ been injured in conflict since he came to power.
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I've just read on the BBC website that the 'high profile TV programmes' include Blue Peter and the Chris Evans Show (I know - radio, not TV); my God - is this what our esteemed leader counts as high profile???
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Hey Phoney Tony
Hey Phoney Tony,
People die in wars. The muslims don't worry so much about it, that's one reason they are likely to win. That and the pansies on our side. Yes, I might be talking about you. If the shoe fits wear it.
You won't complain so much if the muslims win. That's not because you will be happier. It's because you will either keep your mouth shut or be dead.
God bless Tony Blair, one of the last men left in Europe.
People die in wars. The muslims don't worry so much about it, that's one reason they are likely to win. That and the pansies on our side. Yes, I might be talking about you. If the shoe fits wear it.
You won't complain so much if the muslims win. That's not because you will be happier. It's because you will either keep your mouth shut or be dead.
God bless Tony Blair, one of the last men left in Europe.
Hey Phoney Tony,
People die in wars. The muslims don't worry so much about it, that's one reason they are likely to win. That and the pansies on our side. Yes, I might be talking about you. If the shoe fits wear it.
You won't complain so much if the muslims win. That's not because you will be happier. It's because you will either keep your mouth shut or be dead.
God bless Tony Blair, one of the last men left in Europe.
People die in wars. The muslims don't worry so much about it, that's one reason they are likely to win. That and the pansies on our side. Yes, I might be talking about you. If the shoe fits wear it.
You won't complain so much if the muslims win. That's not because you will be happier. It's because you will either keep your mouth shut or be dead.
God bless Tony Blair, one of the last men left in Europe.
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Hey Phoney Tony,
People die in wars. The muslims don't worry so much about it, that's one reason they are likely to win. That and the pansies on our side. Yes, I might be talking about you. If the shoe fits wear it.
You won't complain so much if the muslims win. That's not because you will be happier. It's because you will either keep your mouth shut or be dead.
God bless Tony Blair, one of the last men left in Europe.
People die in wars. The muslims don't worry so much about it, that's one reason they are likely to win. That and the pansies on our side. Yes, I might be talking about you. If the shoe fits wear it.
You won't complain so much if the muslims win. That's not because you will be happier. It's because you will either keep your mouth shut or be dead.
God bless Tony Blair, one of the last men left in Europe.
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Lets see Billy Liar do a short-shuttle around the many outcrops of ****ty places he has dumped our troops, it might be nice to see if he actually knows let alone cares where we are?!
Bring back Maggie! Bit of Old School Action (and not in a MILF kind of way!!)
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No. And I guess the pube that wrote it hasnt lost as many friends as some of us in the american sponsored escapades in the gulf. Typical god bless american bullcrap. Well I am afraid your little saviour Tone is nothing more than a cowardly spineless Sh*t that will not be missed on this side of Atlantic. Perhaps he could slime his way to your side of the pond.
The problem with you yanks is you never learn any lessons do you? You never bother to look back in history because you have very little of it. You will loose in Iraq not because the Islamists are a tough enemy, you will loose as you are stupid and never learnt from your mistakes in the 60's. Tell me this my friend, if you believe so much in liberty, why not sort out other nations that are falling apart before going for the ones that are capable of screwing the US economy?
Oh, it must be nice to work for a government that respects its forces, doesnt expect them to pay council tax or Income tax whilst away, gives them more phone minutes than its prisoners back home, doesnt screw with ROE for political reasons and LISTENS to its people.
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Bye Bye B.....
Speaking for myself, I hope he sticks it out as long as possible 
I really don’t think anything will change for the better with Brown in fact judging from his past history and love of the forces (not) it will get a lot lot worse......
My point is the longer he stays in place the more damage he does to 'Nue Labour' and more curtains come off all their incompetence.
And that can only help to open the eyes of the electorate once and for all so come the next big deciding, so long as they haven’t shifted the constituencies and thereby voting profile of the country they should be out for a very very long time.... 
I really don’t think anything will change for the better with Brown in fact judging from his past history and love of the forces (not) it will get a lot lot worse......
My point is the longer he stays in place the more damage he does to 'Nue Labour' and more curtains come off all their incompetence.
And that can only help to open the eyes of the electorate once and for all so come the next big deciding, so long as they haven’t shifted the constituencies and thereby voting profile of the country they should be out for a very very long time....
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Hey Phoney Tony,
People die in wars. The muslims don't worry so much about it, that's one reason they are likely to win. That and the pansies on our side. Yes, I might be talking about you. If the shoe fits wear it.
You won't complain so much if the muslims win. That's not because you will be happier. It's because you will either keep your mouth shut or be dead.
God bless Tony Blair, one of the last men left in Europe.
People die in wars. The muslims don't worry so much about it, that's one reason they are likely to win. That and the pansies on our side. Yes, I might be talking about you. If the shoe fits wear it.
You won't complain so much if the muslims win. That's not because you will be happier. It's because you will either keep your mouth shut or be dead.
God bless Tony Blair, one of the last men left in Europe.
Yes, sadly you are quite correct 'arismount', people do die in wars...
But less die if the services are SUPPORTED with the right kit and ENOUGH of it to go around when they go off on these wee 'fun' trips he keeps signing us up for.... what about the Foam? or the Snatch L/R .... Body Armour? I wont even go into the undermanning and total lack of support provided for the latest jaunt ... 3 years and back without a shot fired? there ? ffs what planet is he and his SoS Def on????
ok guys, rant off ... I apologise now if my 'arrse' head got switched on for a bit there ..... right, I'm off to raise a glass or ten to some fine people ...
anyone joining me?
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Good point mlc. So who would we prefer? David Cameron, who is more of a bare faced liar than Tony will ever be... (Cycling greenie anyone? "Oh hang on, that car behind me? Oh yeah I need that for my clothes and stuff. But I'm still really green!")
Or good old grumpy Gordon, who seems to have a track record of hating the forces more than anyone, seeing as they cost money.
Our thread starter Phoney Toney referred to a wish to see the PM visiting injured sevicemen. Norman craves for the days of Maggie. Now correct me if I'm wrong... but I don't recall Maggie visiting too many hospitals either. I'm not sure Winston Churchill was a complete whizz on the hospital circuit while I think about it.....
The PM won't visit troops in hospital. Why would he? Casualties are a fact of armed conflict, and do we REALLY expect a countries' premier to go chasing round hospitals making sure everyone's ok? Quite ridiculous.
Quoting Mighty norman:
"Lets see Billy Liar do a short-shuttle around the many outcrops of ****ty places he has dumped our troops, it might be nice to see if he actually knows let alone cares where we are?!"
Norman is your memory that short? Or do you just not read the papers or watch the news much? I have counted at least 3 visits to Iraq so far by the current PM, and 2 to Afghanistan. Given that this is primarily his SoSDef's job, that's not a bad record. Again, show me a time when Maggie visited Port Stanley.
I'll state now that I'm in favour of the man. (I feel a wall of flame coming my way, I know!) He has his faults, but on his plate, along with defence, are all the other things the Great (?) British Public are clamouring for funding for.
We in the Defence sector have to realise this: The public don't see why they should spend money on us. There is no enemy at the gate as far as they are concerned. So, it's not all Tony's fault, he's just doing what the electorate ask of him.
(To save me from being completely flamed, I just thought I'd add that I'm not in favour of supporting the US willy nilly, as we seem to do at present. So I'm not totally in favour of the PM's policies!)
My opinion. That's all.
Or good old grumpy Gordon, who seems to have a track record of hating the forces more than anyone, seeing as they cost money.
Our thread starter Phoney Toney referred to a wish to see the PM visiting injured sevicemen. Norman craves for the days of Maggie. Now correct me if I'm wrong... but I don't recall Maggie visiting too many hospitals either. I'm not sure Winston Churchill was a complete whizz on the hospital circuit while I think about it.....
The PM won't visit troops in hospital. Why would he? Casualties are a fact of armed conflict, and do we REALLY expect a countries' premier to go chasing round hospitals making sure everyone's ok? Quite ridiculous.
Quoting Mighty norman:
"Lets see Billy Liar do a short-shuttle around the many outcrops of ****ty places he has dumped our troops, it might be nice to see if he actually knows let alone cares where we are?!"
Norman is your memory that short? Or do you just not read the papers or watch the news much? I have counted at least 3 visits to Iraq so far by the current PM, and 2 to Afghanistan. Given that this is primarily his SoSDef's job, that's not a bad record. Again, show me a time when Maggie visited Port Stanley.
I'll state now that I'm in favour of the man. (I feel a wall of flame coming my way, I know!) He has his faults, but on his plate, along with defence, are all the other things the Great (?) British Public are clamouring for funding for.
We in the Defence sector have to realise this: The public don't see why they should spend money on us. There is no enemy at the gate as far as they are concerned. So, it's not all Tony's fault, he's just doing what the electorate ask of him.
(To save me from being completely flamed, I just thought I'd add that I'm not in favour of supporting the US willy nilly, as we seem to do at present. So I'm not totally in favour of the PM's policies!)
My opinion. That's all.
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QFI,
5 visits since 2001, awesome! I really should be grateful. When he gets to 5 in a year then I'll be impressed!..
Resisting the bait to enter a slagging match, really can't be bothered mate...usually got more of a life
5 visits since 2001, awesome! I really should be grateful. When he gets to 5 in a year then I'll be impressed!..
Resisting the bait to enter a slagging match, really can't be bothered mate...usually got more of a life
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QFI,HOWEVER not sure if it is Stanley but probably close!!! Maybe if Falklands campaign was years and not weeks/months then she may well have gone more, who knows? Google...dontcha love it!?
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Quoting Norman:
"Lets see Billy Liar do a short-shuttle around the many outcrops of ****ty places he has dumped our troops, it might be nice to see if he actually knows let alone cares where we are?!"
So 5 visits isn't good enough for you? Just how many would be okay? Maybe you'd be happy if he was there every week. But I doubt it.
Anyway my point is proven as far as that is concerned. You originally said he hadn't visited theatre, I've proved he has. Several times.
Nice picture of Maggie by the way... What year was it taken? You seemed to intimate that she had visited during the conflict, or would have done had it been longer. Care to elaborate? Yes google is a wonderful thing indeed norman, but do try to back it up with facts. Anyone can do a half arsed image search.
I'm not into slagging matches, and I too have a life. However if you would like to take me to task (properly next time) on any of my posts, feel free to do so. It won't be a slagging match, I am an adult and can conduct a civilised conversation or debate.
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Hey Phoney Tony,
People die in wars. The muslims don't worry so much about it, that's one reason they are likely to win. That and the pansies on our side. Yes, I might be talking about you. If the shoe fits wear it.
You won't complain so much if the muslims win. That's not because you will be happier. It's because you will either keep your mouth shut or be dead.
God bless Tony Blair, one of the last men left in Europe.
People die in wars. The muslims don't worry so much about it, that's one reason they are likely to win. That and the pansies on our side. Yes, I might be talking about you. If the shoe fits wear it.
You won't complain so much if the muslims win. That's not because you will be happier. It's because you will either keep your mouth shut or be dead.
God bless Tony Blair, one of the last men left in Europe.
I don't know who you are calling pansies but I suggest you have the decency to clarify. We have lost many decent men and women in sandy places and you will have to look long and hard to find any armed forces who could perform tasks like ours do with so many equipment shortfalls.
Try using more economic cars at home, that might make a difference. Then maybe the free world could tell some countries where to stuff their oil prices. But you may have to make friends with Venezuela, ouch that'll hurt.
Tony Blair is not our most popular leader, but hey this is democracy. As for the muslims winning and shutting us up, NO, not even when they are marching along Whitehall ! Now you've done it, I do believe I may have lost my temper.
This computers overheating and so am I. I either stand down or blow up.
Guess I shall have to go and make a pot of tea.
Rant over.
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Sadly it started rather earlier than 1956.
The Turks kept the lid on things for 100s of years until with the collapse of the Ottoman Empire and the Austro-Hungarian Empire things started to unravel.
Increasing need for oil and the allied occupation of Mesopotamia then started the new conflict.
The Balfour Declaration: <<By the standards of international diplomacy, the Balfour Declaration of 1917 is an amazing document, succinctly summarized by Arthur Koestler who wrote that the declaration amounted to "one nation solemnly promised to a second nation the country of a third." Beyond the textual content of the Balfour Declaration - it was made up of just three sentences and some 125 words in total - its significance lies in how it came to pass and what impact it had both on the course of World War I and subsequent events culminating in the formation of Israel.>>
Solution? NAFC
The Turks kept the lid on things for 100s of years until with the collapse of the Ottoman Empire and the Austro-Hungarian Empire things started to unravel.
Increasing need for oil and the allied occupation of Mesopotamia then started the new conflict.
The Balfour Declaration: <<By the standards of international diplomacy, the Balfour Declaration of 1917 is an amazing document, succinctly summarized by Arthur Koestler who wrote that the declaration amounted to "one nation solemnly promised to a second nation the country of a third." Beyond the textual content of the Balfour Declaration - it was made up of just three sentences and some 125 words in total - its significance lies in how it came to pass and what impact it had both on the course of World War I and subsequent events culminating in the formation of Israel.>>
Solution? NAFC
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Pontius, I concur with your historical statement.
I see the Suez campaign as the opening shots of the latest stage of the long war.
I might even be tempted to root out my bible and find a quotation I have in mind which shows the conflict started even further back.
Perehaps I should be more reserved in my responses to our colonial cousins. After all, they are so young in terms of statehood
I see the Suez campaign as the opening shots of the latest stage of the long war.
I might even be tempted to root out my bible and find a quotation I have in mind which shows the conflict started even further back.
Perehaps I should be more reserved in my responses to our colonial cousins. After all, they are so young in terms of statehood