Future Carrier (Including Costs)
I make it about 11,000km from Red Sea area to Helsinki by ship.....and that invloves passing Gib on the way.
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https://ukdefencejournal.org.uk/mod-...or-mothballed/
MOD confirm assault ships not to be ‘scrapped or mothballed’
Despite previous speculation that HMS Albion and HMS Bulwark could be scrapped or mothballed, the Ministry of Defence has confirmed they’ll remain ins ervice.The information came to light in response to a Written Parliamentary Question.
Julian Lewis Chair, Intelligence and Security Committee of Parliament, asked:
“To ask the Secretary of State for Defence, with reference to his oral reply of 19 February 2024 to the Rt hon Member for New Forest East on HMS Albion and HMS Bulwark, Official Report, column 458, whether his assurance that one of those ships will always be being made ready to sail means that neither will be mothballed.”
James Cartlidge, The Minister of State, Ministry of Defence, responded:
“I can confirm that neither HMS ALBION nor HMS BULWARK will be scrapped or mothballed before their planned out of service dates in 2033 and 2034 respectively. As has been the case since 2010, one Landing Platform Dock ship will be held in extended readiness such that she will be capable of being regenerated if we have strategic notice that she will be needed.
As such, HMS ALBION will take HMS BULWARK’s place in extended readiness. While you would not expect me to reveal the fine detail of readiness forecasts for security reasons, I can confirm HMS BULWARK will be regenerated from extended readiness and maintained so that she can be ready to deliver defence outputs if required.”
MOD confirm assault ships not to be ‘scrapped or mothballed’
Despite previous speculation that HMS Albion and HMS Bulwark could be scrapped or mothballed, the Ministry of Defence has confirmed they’ll remain ins ervice.The information came to light in response to a Written Parliamentary Question.
Julian Lewis Chair, Intelligence and Security Committee of Parliament, asked:
“To ask the Secretary of State for Defence, with reference to his oral reply of 19 February 2024 to the Rt hon Member for New Forest East on HMS Albion and HMS Bulwark, Official Report, column 458, whether his assurance that one of those ships will always be being made ready to sail means that neither will be mothballed.”
James Cartlidge, The Minister of State, Ministry of Defence, responded:
“I can confirm that neither HMS ALBION nor HMS BULWARK will be scrapped or mothballed before their planned out of service dates in 2033 and 2034 respectively. As has been the case since 2010, one Landing Platform Dock ship will be held in extended readiness such that she will be capable of being regenerated if we have strategic notice that she will be needed.
As such, HMS ALBION will take HMS BULWARK’s place in extended readiness. While you would not expect me to reveal the fine detail of readiness forecasts for security reasons, I can confirm HMS BULWARK will be regenerated from extended readiness and maintained so that she can be ready to deliver defence outputs if required.”
Whereas mothballed is exactly that, mothballed!
A huge difference.
Thank you....
However, I expect the "small permanent crew" allocated will be VERY small, and the people identified to bring it back to fully crewed will no doubt already be doing vital jobs in a service that is "underpersonned"...
However, I expect the "small permanent crew" allocated will be VERY small, and the people identified to bring it back to fully crewed will no doubt already be doing vital jobs in a service that is "underpersonned"...
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Must have run out of pianos…..
NEW: Aircraft carrier USS John F. Kennedy (CVN-79) is catapulting objects into the James River in Virginia to test its plane launching capabilities.
The footage was recently released by Huntington Ingalls Industries (HII), a ship building company.
The Kennedy features an electromagnetic aircraft launch system (EMALS) which makes it just the 2nd US aircraft carrier to have this advanced system.
The vehicles it launched in testing reached speeds of 150mph and experts estimate it will be able to launch jets at speeds of 240mph.
The Kennedy was launched in 2019 and has a price tag of $11.3 billion.
NEW: Aircraft carrier USS John F. Kennedy (CVN-79) is catapulting objects into the James River in Virginia to test its plane launching capabilities.
The footage was recently released by Huntington Ingalls Industries (HII), a ship building company.
The Kennedy features an electromagnetic aircraft launch system (EMALS) which makes it just the 2nd US aircraft carrier to have this advanced system.
The vehicles it launched in testing reached speeds of 150mph and experts estimate it will be able to launch jets at speeds of 240mph.
The Kennedy was launched in 2019 and has a price tag of $11.3 billion.
Must have run out of pianos…..
NEW: Aircraft carrier USS John F. Kennedy (CVN-79) is catapulting objects into the James River in Virginia to test its plane launching capabilities.
The footage was recently released by Huntington Ingalls Industries (HII), a ship building company.
The Kennedy features an electromagnetic aircraft launch system (EMALS) which makes it just the 2nd US aircraft carrier to have this advanced system.
The vehicles it launched in testing reached speeds of 150mph and experts estimate it will be able to launch jets at speeds of 240mph.
The Kennedy was launched in 2019 and has a price tag of $11.3 billion.
NEW: Aircraft carrier USS John F. Kennedy (CVN-79) is catapulting objects into the James River in Virginia to test its plane launching capabilities.
The footage was recently released by Huntington Ingalls Industries (HII), a ship building company.
The Kennedy features an electromagnetic aircraft launch system (EMALS) which makes it just the 2nd US aircraft carrier to have this advanced system.
The vehicles it launched in testing reached speeds of 150mph and experts estimate it will be able to launch jets at speeds of 240mph.
The Kennedy was launched in 2019 and has a price tag of $11.3 billion.
I wonder if the EMALS test preparations included the traditional main broadcast seeking volunteers to be aircraft catapult test weight coxswains?
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Ah, the much loved deadload trials. I remember an item in Ark Royal's daily orders "Deadload driver volunteers wanted; applicants should be in possession of an Admiralty driving licence, and be good swimmers." Quite a few baby Jacks signed up.
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Sad news, Aircraft carrier C551 'Giuseppe Garibaldi' from the 1st of October 2024, will be taken out of service to be disarmed.
It has been serving Italy since the 1980's and took part in Operation Enduring Freedom and also was present during the conflicts in Libya and Kosovo.
It is possibile that it may still have a use after being disarmed. There are plans for it to be converted into a naval satellite launch platform under the SIMONA program.
It has been serving Italy since the 1980's and took part in Operation Enduring Freedom and also was present during the conflicts in Libya and Kosovo.
It is possibile that it may still have a use after being disarmed. There are plans for it to be converted into a naval satellite launch platform under the SIMONA program.
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Russian Naval Nuclear Doctrine
BREAKING NEWS! A big story by @maxseddon and @xtophercook for the @FT on leaked Russian documents, including a revealing briefing on Russia's naval non-strategic nuclear weapons (and conventional prompt strike) doctrine. Buckle up, this is a big one.
https://www.ft.com/content/f18e6e1f-...5-50a730b306b7
Four key takeaways for you:
1) Russian doctrine for the use of non-strategic nuclear weapons by the Russian Navy includes a much lower threshold for nuclear use than previously thought, and far lower than the Kremlin has claimed in the years since the end of the Cold War.
2) Russian non-strategic nuclear weapons remain a part of the surface fleet (inc. missiles, bombs, torpedoes, depth charges, all with hot-swappable conventional and nuclear warheads), despite promising to remove them in the Presidential Nuclear Initiatives.
3) Russia has done extensive work to target with nuclear and conventioanl precision strike civilian and military infrastructure in Japan, and at least some theoretical targeting against targets in South Korea, Iran, Azerbaijan, North Korea, and even China.
4) Russia's naval nuclear doctrine is consistent with its very real shortcomings and precarious position compared to the US Navy, therefore integrating nuclear planning at lower levels, giving commanders wide targeting flexibility after initial nuclear use.
No surprises on conventional precision strike - consistent with work by Dave Johnson and others (e.g., @KofmanMichael) on SODCIT - strategic operations to destroy critical infrastructure targets. Also consistent with the idea of civilian targeting.
If you’d like more on Russian non strategic nuclear weapons doctrine, I just published this report. I wish I’d seen these materials before I wrote it, certainly, but I think my conclusions are consistent with the findings by @maxseddon and @xtophercook
https://www.iiss.org/research-paper/...clear-weapons/
https://www.twz.com/nuclear/russias-...-in-new-report
Russia’s Low Threshold For Nuclear Weapons Use Detailed In New Report
According to a report based on leaked documents, the loss of just three cruisers could trigger a nuclear reprisal, but questions remain.
https://www.ft.com/content/f18e6e1f-...5-50a730b306b7
Four key takeaways for you:
1) Russian doctrine for the use of non-strategic nuclear weapons by the Russian Navy includes a much lower threshold for nuclear use than previously thought, and far lower than the Kremlin has claimed in the years since the end of the Cold War.
2) Russian non-strategic nuclear weapons remain a part of the surface fleet (inc. missiles, bombs, torpedoes, depth charges, all with hot-swappable conventional and nuclear warheads), despite promising to remove them in the Presidential Nuclear Initiatives.
3) Russia has done extensive work to target with nuclear and conventioanl precision strike civilian and military infrastructure in Japan, and at least some theoretical targeting against targets in South Korea, Iran, Azerbaijan, North Korea, and even China.
4) Russia's naval nuclear doctrine is consistent with its very real shortcomings and precarious position compared to the US Navy, therefore integrating nuclear planning at lower levels, giving commanders wide targeting flexibility after initial nuclear use.
No surprises on conventional precision strike - consistent with work by Dave Johnson and others (e.g., @KofmanMichael) on SODCIT - strategic operations to destroy critical infrastructure targets. Also consistent with the idea of civilian targeting.
If you’d like more on Russian non strategic nuclear weapons doctrine, I just published this report. I wish I’d seen these materials before I wrote it, certainly, but I think my conclusions are consistent with the findings by @maxseddon and @xtophercook
https://www.iiss.org/research-paper/...clear-weapons/
https://www.twz.com/nuclear/russias-...-in-new-report
Russia’s Low Threshold For Nuclear Weapons Use Detailed In New Report
According to a report based on leaked documents, the loss of just three cruisers could trigger a nuclear reprisal, but questions remain.
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I think it was might be a firefly, incidentally they only removed the outer wings after one launch where the aircraft flew in a giant circle and came back towards the carrier causing a lot of ring puckering on board.
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Sad news, Aircraft carrier C551 'Giuseppe Garibaldi' from the 1st of October 2024, will be taken out of service to be disarmed.
It has been serving Italy since the 1980's and took part in Operation Enduring Freedom and also was present during the conflicts in Libya and Kosovo.
It is possibile that it may still have a use after being disarmed. There are plans for it to be converted into a naval satellite launch platform under the SIMONA program.
It has been serving Italy since the 1980's and took part in Operation Enduring Freedom and also was present during the conflicts in Libya and Kosovo.
It is possibile that it may still have a use after being disarmed. There are plans for it to be converted into a naval satellite launch platform under the SIMONA program.
The Daily Mail has been being used by naval and other defence interests to stir up trouble. (Gleefully picked up by the National Scot, the Metro, and Portsmouth's The News - which I think the gentleman over whose shoulder I saw it, was reading.)
A ' Royal Navy spokesperson' has been reported as categorically denying it.
Ben Wallace was also reported to 'have told the Mail the UK had effectively been 'lying' to Nato for the last 20 years over its capabilities'
'Last night a naval source told the Mail the nightmare scenario of selling a carrier to spare funds had been discussed by members of the Maritime Enterprise Planning Group, which looks at future considerations and strategies.He said: 'There's an awareness in the group that the Navy is struggling to maintain operational commitments and has to expand the fleet as rapidly as possible.
'The second carrier is an asset that is held in reserve and is a very expensive piece of rarely-used equipment. So if we want to address balance sheet issues, disposing of her or sharing her with say an AUKUS [Australia, UK and US] ally, is an option.'
'The second carrier is an asset that is held in reserve and is a very expensive piece of rarely-used equipment. So if we want to address balance sheet issues, disposing of her or sharing her with say an AUKUS [Australia, UK and US] ally, is an option.'
Last night, official sources said while the Navy remained committed to both carriers, 'changes in government and budgets' may alter this assessment. Ministers have told top brass they must 'spend better' to convince the Treasury to increase investment.'
Ben Wallace was also reported to 'have told the Mail the UK had effectively been 'lying' to Nato for the last 20 years over its capabilities'
Last night, Mr Wallace said: 'For the last 20 years the UK's Armed Forces have not been able to deliver to Nato what they have claimed.
'Either we fund the Armed Forces properly or future prime ministers need to admit to the public that they want Britain to be a follower not a leader on the world stage.'
'Either we fund the Armed Forces properly or future prime ministers need to admit to the public that they want Britain to be a follower not a leader on the world stage.'
#7393 .Possibly a Wyvern,looking at the prop-disc seems contraprops,or even a Gannet..