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Fair enough Ordinance wise but I bet they are loud enough to be heard a fair ol' distance away perhaps not 150-160 miles away.
I could hear Harriers from MCAS Cherry Point which is not next door....in fact it is in a different County.
I could hear Harriers from MCAS Cherry Point which is not next door....in fact it is in a different County.
" with reports circulating on social media that she rushed home for urgent repairs to her lift."
Doesn't she have two?
Doesn't she have two?
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If there was a chance you might have to deploy somewhere important at some stage, maybe getting the second one working could become more important than the training exercise you'd planned previously.
Yessssss, but, as shown by the recent BoI having serviceable equipment is one thing but having enough capable trained staff is another, and without sufficient training and work up they are not going to be able to support and contribute to operations.
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Yeah, so (as happens all the time in many walks of life) you look at the pros and cons of the different options and make a decision based on all the available information. In this case, that decision clearly involved a return to Portsmouth.
That is exactly what the ship has been doing in recent weeks alongside Norwegian and Swedish forces.
Given they were on an exercise and heading home soon anyway I can see the logical idea in getting whatever is wrong fixed in Portsmouth alongside where you have all the necessary kit and people easily available rather than push it onto the crew offshore. As you say tho' it does support the idea that the crew (s) are stretched
God knows what this does for the ability to recover and repair key weapons systems post damage but as that is hard to exercise and harder to measure I dare say it has got lost in the noise.
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I read/heard recently that, due to manpower shortages, RN vessels (with the notable exception of submarines) were routinely putting to sea with less than 100% manning.
I think the basic idea in modern RN warship design is to build for the smallest crew that can operate the ship. Then add the minimum margins. Those on board ate expected to be stretched by anything big because the capacity to do deeper than routine maintenance is in the naval bases and covers the whole of a type, rather than having it on board. This support is also mobile so can be sent where the ship is, provided it is alongside.
God knows what this does for the ability to recover and repair key weapons systems post damage but as that is hard to exercise and harder to measure I dare say it has got lost in the noise.
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God knows what this does for the ability to recover and repair key weapons systems post damage but as that is hard to exercise and harder to measure I dare say it has got lost in the noise.
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thanks - it probably was decided on costs - like most things htese days..................
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01 Nov 2023 "...an F-35B completed a nighttime shipborne rolling vertical landing on the Royal Navy ship, which also launched a fully-loaded F-35B...." https://www.f35.com/f35/news-and-fea...-of-wales.html PHOTO looks to be a VL: 8096418.jpg (3600×2400) (f35.com) (4.7Mb)
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Ecce Homo! Loquitur...
6🇯🇵Japanese officers hosted on board @HMSPWLS to observe carrier operations.
RN helping JMSDF prepare as Izumo-class helicopter carriers being converted for F-35B
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RN helping JMSDF prepare as Izumo-class helicopter carriers being converted for F-35B
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This morning my mobile phone flagged up this story of an Israeli F-35I splashing a cruise missile. This is significant as it demonstrates an ability to kill arrows as well as archers - something that other F-35 users will pay attention to - including the RN/RAF force.
Israel uses F-35I to shoot down cruise missile, a first for Joint Strike Fighter - Breaking Defense
JERUSALEM — The Israel Defense Forces said that it used F-35I Adir fighter jets to shoot down a cruise missile this week, the first known cruise missile intercept by the American-made stealth fighter.
“In recent days, a cruise missile launched from the southeast toward Israeli airspace was detected by the IAF’s control and detection systems. After tracking the cruise missile’s trajectory, Adir fighter jets were scrambled and successfully intercepted the missile,” the IDF said today.
The cruise missile was likely launched from the Iran-backed Houthis in Yemen, although the IDF did not specify the launch site. While Israeli did not specify what weapon was used to intercept the incoming cruise missile, Israel’s F-35I variants are armed with both the AIM-9X Sidewinder and Aim-120 AMRAAM missiles.
The significance should be obvious - it is going to be more effective to use these against the missile threat than relying solely on ship based systems in the Red Sea. Defending an area of sea in which your forces are operating or transiting through is not too dissimilar.
Israel uses F-35I to shoot down cruise missile, a first for Joint Strike Fighter - Breaking Defense
JERUSALEM — The Israel Defense Forces said that it used F-35I Adir fighter jets to shoot down a cruise missile this week, the first known cruise missile intercept by the American-made stealth fighter.
“In recent days, a cruise missile launched from the southeast toward Israeli airspace was detected by the IAF’s control and detection systems. After tracking the cruise missile’s trajectory, Adir fighter jets were scrambled and successfully intercepted the missile,” the IDF said today.
The cruise missile was likely launched from the Iran-backed Houthis in Yemen, although the IDF did not specify the launch site. While Israeli did not specify what weapon was used to intercept the incoming cruise missile, Israel’s F-35I variants are armed with both the AIM-9X Sidewinder and Aim-120 AMRAAM missiles.
The significance should be obvious - it is going to be more effective to use these against the missile threat than relying solely on ship based systems in the Red Sea. Defending an area of sea in which your forces are operating or transiting through is not too dissimilar.
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What ever the issue was, it seems to have been resolved as QE is leaving Pompey this afternoon, so no weekend runs ashore
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9 1245 LNTM 13/23 (TRANSIT OF THE PORT BY QUEEN ELIZABETH CLASS OF CARRIER) REFERS
10 1405 - 1545 MAIN CHANNEL CLOSED TO INBOUND AND OUTBOUND TRAFFIC
11 1445 MTBC HMS QUEEN ELIZABETH PRJ OSB
13 1455 SMALL BOAT CHANNEL CLOSED TO INBOUND AND OUTBOUND TRAFFIC
14 1535 HMS QUEEN ELIZABETH OSB NAB
.`Ser Time Ship From To
9 1245 LNTM 13/23 (TRANSIT OF THE PORT BY QUEEN ELIZABETH CLASS OF CARRIER) REFERS
10 1405 - 1545 MAIN CHANNEL CLOSED TO INBOUND AND OUTBOUND TRAFFIC
11 1445 MTBC HMS QUEEN ELIZABETH PRJ OSB
13 1455 SMALL BOAT CHANNEL CLOSED TO INBOUND AND OUTBOUND TRAFFIC
14 1535 HMS QUEEN ELIZABETH OSB NAB
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HMS Kent and HMS Diamond also departing today.
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This morning my mobile phone flagged up this story of an Israeli F-35I splashing a cruise missile. This is significant as it demonstrates an ability to kill arrows as well as archers - something that other F-35 users will pay attention to - including the RN/RAF force....
"...Video footage released by Israel of the intercept shows an apparent cruise missile flying at a low level. The missile passes out of the frame briefly. A second after the missile reenters the frame, a second object enters on a head-on course. The second object appears to trigger a proximity fuse within several meters of the enemy missile, which is destroyed by the explosion...."
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