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Old 8th Sep 2023, 13:02
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Originally Posted by sycamore
F1 cameras all have `rolling cleaners` on their cameras for `bug-cleaning`,even if it is `autonymous`,it should have a `manual` overide,to cover autopilot failure.....
I doubt whether the cameras used for these pictures have anything to do with control.
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They took off again still with the insect/dot on the tail camera lens they had picked up on final?
They were hoping it would mask that area of paint peeling off and flapping about on the underside of the elevator.
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Old 8th Sep 2023, 15:44
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According to their website:Windracers drones are uncrewed and fly autonomously, controlled by our advanced autopilot solution Masterless™. Masterless™ is an entirely new architecture that has been developed and patented by our sister company Distributed Avionics, providing best in class autopilot technology for drones in the world.

Distributed Avionics was founded by Windracers to design and build an affordable and extremely robust autopilot solution that adheres to our rigorous design philosophy.
Hmm, clever. I wonder how you program it to land on a moving runway?
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Originally Posted by Timelord
Hmm, clever. I wonder how you program it to land on a moving runway?
Tell it where the runway is?
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Old 8th Sep 2023, 16:15
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Originally Posted by Ninthace
Tell it where the runway is?
Maybe some kind of ILS system at the required landing point. The UAV would just do whatever was necessary to arrive there.
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It was a pretty ropey landing anyway. Became very unstable in the last few feet and after touchdown looked like it was going for the island until the brakes were jammed on hard..
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Old 8th Sep 2023, 17:36
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Virtually clear deck, CAVOK, no wind, and pretty much flat calm. It's a start but it looks like there is a lot of development to do to move from looking at feasibility to an operational system. IMO it will require ship controlled landing once it closes with the ship/task group.
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Old 8th Sep 2023, 17:55
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Originally Posted by SLXOwft
Virtually clear deck, CAVOK, no wind, and pretty much flat calm. It's a start but it looks like there is a lot of development to do to move from looking at feasibility to an operational system. IMO it will require ship controlled landing once it closes with the ship/task group.
I believe the US has done it with much bigger and better systems. I cannot be beyond the wit of Jack to sort something out.
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MQ-25 Completes First U.S. Navy Carrier Tests [same as twatta video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WFrzKILwfFg
Kinda knocks a twin prop parcel carrier into touch.
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Old 8th Sep 2023, 18:41
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Originally Posted by chevvron
It was a pretty ropey landing anyway. Became very unstable in the last few feet and after touchdown looked like it was going for the island until the brakes were jammed on hard..
Bit harsh - given its vision was obscured by an insect!
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Old 8th Sep 2023, 20:58
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To take off and land there is a human Pilot/Operator using a conventional radio control (see pics below). Only in transit does an autonomous autopilot take over. The problem is that this thing has no detect and avoid capability and so it has to have an airspace reservation to fly about.








You are also going to have to clear all of your expensive proper aircraft off of the deck - can you imagine when this thing hits an £80M+ F35B!!!
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Old 8th Sep 2023, 21:46
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Originally Posted by Lima Juliet
To take off and land there is a human Pilot/Operator using a conventional radio control (see pics below). Only in transit does an autonomous autopilot take over. The problem is that this thing has no detect and avoid capability and so it has to have an airspace reservation to fly about. You are also going to have to clear all of your expensive proper aircraft off of the deck - can you imagine when this thing hits an £80M+ F35B!!!
Nobody is claiming that this is anything but a trial to show that such systems are feasible. I'd say they have done that.
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Video Mixdown - I’ll do it for you in a Cessna 172. I’ll carry more, go faster, be less of a risk to those on deck, probably be cheaper and won’t need an airspace reservation…
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But you will have to have it modded by BAe so it costs at least £ 10 mm a throw I'm afraid
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Old 9th Sep 2023, 09:01
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Bit harsh - given its vision was obscured by an insect!
Something the designers couldn’t possibly have foreseen…. The enemy will already be developing deployable clouds of flies to protect themselves from this formidable tool.
All looks very Heath Robinson, and I am not sure that it proves anything which needs or is worth proving.
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well its cheaper than sending out a Helicopter with the pizzas...............
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Old 9th Sep 2023, 10:07
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I see the navy didn't trust it to land safely - had the deck cleared of men, machines & aircraft!!

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Actually we don't have any but don't tell anyone..........................
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Old 9th Sep 2023, 18:24
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Originally Posted by Ninthace
I believe the US has done it with much bigger and better systems. I cannot be beyond the wit of Jack to sort something out.


Kinda knocks a twin prop parcel carrier into touch.
I mean, it's a lot cooler, but taxi testing doesn't count! Sure they'll get it cat and trapping soon enough though given they already have a functioning autoland system for crewed aircraft.
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Old 9th Sep 2023, 19:13
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I mean, it's a lot cooler, but taxi testing doesn't count! Sure they'll get it cat and trapping soon enough though given they already have a functioning autoland system for crewed aircraft.
That was December last year. The USN haven't actually launched and recovered a UAV yet? I am shocked.
That puts the RN in the lead, albeit with just a cut down version of Parcel Force, but even so.
Unless of course, somebody knows something different.
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Old 9th Sep 2023, 19:28
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Originally Posted by Lima Juliet
Video Mixdown - I’ll do it for you in a Cessna 172. I’ll carry more, go faster, be less of a risk to those on deck, probably be cheaper and won’t need an airspace reservation…
I'll do it in a microlight; even cheaper.
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