Flying Pay
How many people would stay if brat-breeding allowance was binned?
With the Services ever shrinking, the lieklihood of being posted from one corner of the UK to another is disappearing fast, apart from OOA dets, of course.
So how can the scales of Boarding School Allowance be justified?
With the Services ever shrinking, the lieklihood of being posted from one corner of the UK to another is disappearing fast, apart from OOA dets, of course.
So how can the scales of Boarding School Allowance be justified?
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Difficult one there is no justification for keeping it. Its like flying pay no one can work out why it started, just fight to keep any allowance you can claim. Get married, have kids, claim allowance, easy.
In civiy strret I get no allowances, have to pay health insurance and invest in my own pension. I am not moaning, as I have the advantage of if I do not like my situation then I move on.
Thats why you must fight to keep any allowance as you do not have the option to vote with your feet like me.
Difficult one there is no justification for keeping it. Its like flying pay no one can work out why it started, just fight to keep any allowance you can claim. Get married, have kids, claim allowance, easy.
In civiy strret I get no allowances, have to pay health insurance and invest in my own pension. I am not moaning, as I have the advantage of if I do not like my situation then I move on.
Thats why you must fight to keep any allowance as you do not have the option to vote with your feet like me.
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Getting back to Filthy's original post
This could have serious consequences for a lot of us. Are you saying that even if a NCA chap started IOT before Apr 03 and graduated on to the middle or higher flying pay rate (as were the terms that were in place), retrospectively they are likely to now lose that pay and start from scratch i.e. from graduation date or award of new flying brevet. If this is the case, it will have major financial issues for a lot of guys, including me. Even if it is their mistake am I also expected to pay back the difference?
Filthy, can you let me know the source of your information and give me a contact number as this is news to me (and probably quite a few of my work colleagues.)
If it is only rumour then please don't frighten me like that!
M7
Filthy, can you let me know the source of your information and give me a contact number as this is news to me (and probably quite a few of my work colleagues.)
If it is only rumour then please don't frighten me like that!
M7
Although aircrew tend to get suck in a "posting rut", ie Lyneham for ever, Benson/Aldergrove/Benson, Odiham for ever etc, for our ground based chums there is indeed that element of instability. There are still (for now at least) enough RAF stations that a supplier/ATC etc etc could go through an entire career and never serve at the same one twice, from Cornwall to the Shetlands, plus Germany, Cyprus etc.
To get rid of BSA would be like lighting the blue touch paper, there are a suprising number of people who are staying just for that.
To get rid of BSA would be like lighting the blue touch paper, there are a suprising number of people who are staying just for that.
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You are both talking out of your @rses about BSA. I have had 4 moves in 4 years and my 2 kids would have suffered if I had not packed them off to BS. Even in this much smaller Air Force, there is still a good chance of being moved around so frequently that it prevents children from getting a stable education.
HPT
You are both talking out of your @rses about BSA. I have had 4 moves in 4 years and my 2 kids would have suffered if I had not packed them off to BS. Even in this much smaller Air Force, there is still a good chance of being moved around so frequently that it prevents children from getting a stable education.
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Emergov,
See a previous post of mine for my take on your comments. As I said, it started as a retention initiative, but as the economy has grown exponentially over the last 3 decades, HMG has not had the funds to keep up with airline salaries. In the 60's (and arguably the 70s) the Govt were richer than everybody else - now the opposite is true.
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See a previous post of mine for my take on your comments. As I said, it started as a retention initiative, but as the economy has grown exponentially over the last 3 decades, HMG has not had the funds to keep up with airline salaries. In the 60's (and arguably the 70s) the Govt were richer than everybody else - now the opposite is true.
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What a sad thread this is! Collegues slagging collegues. As I see it you are all on Film Star salaries You are all in the same or similar service and you knew what you signed up for. Most of you have the choice of leaving.
In my day, I certainly was never aware of any jealousy between ground crew and aircrew and any attempt for one to do without the other would be ridiculous. Maybe flying pay was so low it did not pose a problem between us.
For my part I enjoyed my 20 years even though for many of them I could not afford a car. As for the work and the danger. It never felt like work and I have suffered more from falling from a ladder in retirement than I ever did in the RAF.Despite a few tricky moments.
Before the more critical of you think I am in my dotage and am possibly talking of the Royal Flying Corps let me point out that I can list Spitfire, Hurricane, Canberra, Vulcan, DC7 Mosquito, Hornet amongst my aircraft.
For the degree waving aircrew among you, I can only say, I failed my PHd at St Saviours Elementary School. But still managed to become an A1 pilot instructor,and a Command Instrument Rating Examiner... And did some Deck landings in the FAA.
I would also point out, that because line pilots have higher pay rates it does not follow that every service pilot will be ably to transfer at will. Be happy with what you have unless you are certain about the green grass
In my day, I certainly was never aware of any jealousy between ground crew and aircrew and any attempt for one to do without the other would be ridiculous. Maybe flying pay was so low it did not pose a problem between us.
For my part I enjoyed my 20 years even though for many of them I could not afford a car. As for the work and the danger. It never felt like work and I have suffered more from falling from a ladder in retirement than I ever did in the RAF.Despite a few tricky moments.
Before the more critical of you think I am in my dotage and am possibly talking of the Royal Flying Corps let me point out that I can list Spitfire, Hurricane, Canberra, Vulcan, DC7 Mosquito, Hornet amongst my aircraft.
For the degree waving aircrew among you, I can only say, I failed my PHd at St Saviours Elementary School. But still managed to become an A1 pilot instructor,and a Command Instrument Rating Examiner... And did some Deck landings in the FAA.
I would also point out, that because line pilots have higher pay rates it does not follow that every service pilot will be ably to transfer at will. Be happy with what you have unless you are certain about the green grass
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Gosh Padhist, your pen1s must be enormous!
What you were or were not aware of says more about how much attention you were paying than reality I feel.
I'm off to spend my film star wage......
I do believe that the pay in your era, not to mention the working conditions, were of a somewhat different order
Yours Tourist,
gash line pilot on many a/c types, those who can do, those who can't teach.
What you were or were not aware of says more about how much attention you were paying than reality I feel.
I'm off to spend my film star wage......
I do believe that the pay in your era, not to mention the working conditions, were of a somewhat different order
Yours Tourist,
gash line pilot on many a/c types, those who can do, those who can't teach.
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You were lucky, in my day I had to get up half an hour before I went to bed, pay for the privelige of going to work and lick lake out wit tongue.
You try and tell the youth of today that. They won't believe you.
You were lucky, in my day I had to get up half an hour before I went to bed, pay for the privelige of going to work and lick lake out wit tongue.
You try and tell the youth of today that. They won't believe you.
