Hi Mutt,
Things must have really changed since I retired in 09. You mentioned the MD-11 being grounded, I know about the Khartoum one, what's up with the others?

I think I know you jumbocpt, around the Aspen area maybe? I'm close by in FTC.

Anyway, hoping all the best to the one's still in Jed and the ones who have left. It was a great gig in my time.

The MD11 was always treated like a TCN, so using leased aircraft became more cost effective and reliable. The Khartoum aircraft was returned to flying status, it was ferried back to Jeddah and Boeing came to visit. Cargo operates about 12-14 aircraft, nearly all B747's 200/400/8F. Rumor control says that they have a couple of 777F on the way.
Financially its a better gig since you left, but the training environment has gone down hill.
Happy retirement :)

What about days off in a row for commuting

Hi Mutt, can you throw any light on the training for typed 777 captains, failure rates, etc?

Thks

Saudi Arabian Airlines (Walk-in Interview)
 

Did anyone do a walk-in interview at their headquarter in Jeddah? I would like to apply for the position of cabin crew. I am a Filipino, with dependent visa. Please help me if you have an idea. Thank you!

annizahkamid: If you're currently in Jeddah then I suggest that you go to Saudia Flight operations and ask. I don't really know much about the flight attendant side of things but I am pretty sure that you'll find somebody there who could help you with your application.

Saudia flight attendant inquiry
 

Salam anyone here who has an idea on what to expect when you're about to attend training does a female crew need to wear a buisness attire or Abaya when about to attend trainings at jeddah thanks in advance

Saudia categories of aircraft
 

The careers page of Saudia defines weight categories B,C,D. Could somebody enlighten me if a category A exists and what is the weight of the aircraft in that category?

To anybody in the know ref Saudi Arabian -
I'm rated on one of their current fleet - would a type conversion be a possibility onto a different type either on joining? (or subsequently?)

Have spent time in KSA previously so a move there, for me, wouldn't be the 'interesting' experience it would be for some.

safe flying

B

They will give you one until you get your uniform.

Yes it does, as does A1.. but the airline doesn't operate these types.

Yes and No.... if you have the time for larger equipment go for it... after joining your next fleet will be as per seniority.

Any speculation about the future of the A330 fleet?
What typically happens to the pilots when their fleet is reduced/eliminated?

The A330 just got here :):) Rumours are great, but sometimes its better to wait until facts come out. 777 deliveries continue, 787 next year, nothing about 330.

Crews depending on age will transition to another equipment. 747 Classic /MD11 guys went to the A330/777/744.

Hey, can anyone share any information about the working conditions, crm, management, housing, leaves, etc. with regards to Saudia airlines? Please it would be of great help.

info about saudi tech exam
 

Gents, I have got an interview coming up soon for SV. I would appreciate if some one give me a details info about the tech written exam.:ok:

Saudia application
 

Hi

A quick question. Today i got a mail of Saudi recruitment with a link to download an application form. I had to send it to an email adres with the extension .saudiairlines.com.

My question is: is this fake or not? Because i thought they only recruited via their website?

TX

I have received the same.

I have send my application in the website last year.

Lets see

.saudiairlines.com

It is legit, that is the airline address.

Hi guys


I have applied through their web site and I had given a user name starting with SVF....., then I filled out the application form, and have asked me to register on one of their vacancy, I choose B777 FO, immediately the automatic response came as it stated thank you for your interest in joining Saudi Airlines.
Now almost one month past and no contact or any update of whatsoever from them.

Apparently at the latest interviews in Cairo, they interviewed 50 people and accepted NONE. Its just as well that they are not suffering from a pilot shortage :):)

Cairo
 

Cairo interviews to skirt the issue of Saudi Visa. I did the interview 10 years ago- no sim ride and job offer in 8 minutes of interview after basic exam. @ pilots and HR on the other side of the table rifling questions- then "Halas!"-A job offer. Odd.

I have mine scheduled in Feb in Cairo. Any idea what to expect? Is it even worth bothering? Thank you.

Well, at least a friend of mine is waiting for a visa to come to Jeddah to continue his assesment on the simulator and in the medical center. Also he said that some of his interview mates were already scheduled for a 777 class in February.
That's from December Cairo interview.

May be getting things abit mixed up there I think possibly.

Yes the failure rate is high, only 50% of those interviewed are passing stage 1 (Cairo) but first of all, the offers to attend Cairo assessments are heavily culled from ones initial application and CV/experience. Many are not offered the opportunity to start with. Cairo - Approx ten per day are assessed and interviewed over one or two days as time allows. There is simply not enough hours in the day for more. Interviews monthly and Course starts monthly also, all types.

There is a big demand for experienced crew globally now but SV's is not the huge (and ever increasing) amount that EK/EY & QR need now. As an example, EK have a 5% attrition currently as many head home to BA/Virgin/UA/AA/Delta etc or take up lesser contracts closer to home (VA/CA etc). QR have two new aircraft per month arriving and need >300 pilots this year. EK need only a lazy 400 to replace the resignations last year then another 300+ to alleviate current crewing issues plus new aircraft arriving. Well you can have a guess about EY and their needs too. Then there is Ethiopian, Turkish Delight, Vietnam, EVA, China Nth Sth East & West; Korea; EU summer contracts... and yes Saudia with their "hat in the ring" too.
People are simply moving to where the rostering is not fatiguing and Terms & Conditions are more favourable for themselves.

P.S. Skyworker : No, not with that attitude. (Amateurs need not apply!)

Chocks Away


Good stat. really you make me rethink my decisions :D

Is working for Saudia commutable? with my hours I can only apply for A320 FO but if I were to get in and move to 777 in time would it be commutable to UK? or must you live their full time? whats the money like? I heard its big bucks

Hi all
Trying to apply on Saudia website , but it goes nowhere asking National ID which , obviously I don't have, what am I doing wrong?
Tks for the help

Hi all, received email for march assesment, but after i told them the return ticket cost me 1100$ no reply from them .any one have the same experience?

Adwa0001

Yes the email address is an airline address which you will be sending to your email.. It is legit, a commercial mailing address

this is totally wrong.in the December assessment out of 14 ,11 were offered a job 10 of them accepted it

Are they accepting foreign F/O's for all fleets or just longhaul?

it depends on your experience .from a certain amount of hours and above you will be positioned on the wide bodies .If you are a bus driver its gonna be 330 if a Boeing driver then its the T7

Saudia non typerated first officer requirements
 

Greetings everyone.

Can someone help me with the requirements for the above position. Is it commutable from south Africa (JNB) or does one have to live in Saudi:ugh:
Thanks in advance.

Not totally wrong info Alloha, just December was "a good vintage" ...the exception to the rule and showed a high standard.
Happy landings:ok:

The selection is only a small part of the story, if selected you are then on probation until training is finished. Passing training seems to be around 50/50. The housing department were told last year that 140 were coming and to expect around 70 to stay.

It is not designed as a commuting contract, they provide housing according to family size and subsidise schooling. You can get a block of 5 days a month to go home though.

F/O Upgrade
 

Does anyone know what the upgrade for foreign pilots is like?

Plan on never so that you won't be disappointed :)

@geardown3green did you manage to get an answer about the application? I am having the sme problems any help anyone?

@Scott
Got no news, still having the same problem , I wonder how the other Pilots managed to get trough it....

Saudi interview dresscode
 

Dear gents,

I got invitation for next cairo interview, and coming from a hot country and used to lcc laid back company profile "shirt and jeans ", makes me thinking .wether a suit is required for the interview.or a nice pants shirt and tie is enough.
Appreciate for the help. Looking forward to move from lcc.

Happy landings,

Adwa001

it is a national airline, not an lcc. Not wearing a suit is a sure way to stand out from the crowd. (not in a good way)