Yes, they are, and pretty aggresively if you are type rated

The advantages for type rated people is that their release to line training process takes 7 months 29 days rather than 8 months :)

Mutt

Any word on FO's?

Could some one please amplify min guaranteed hours.
Does it mean that one gets paid for at least 78 hrs whether flown or not
Thanks

Non-Rev - Saudi Nationals only as FO. There are some Expat FO's here but they were hired awhile back and all had extensive heavy time.

Condor - Min Guarantee is minimum salary paid each month regardless of hours flown. The actual hour (68,73,78) amount differs by type of equipment category. The hour value is only used in calculation of additional pay, Overtime etc.

For example: If you fly 40 hours - you will get your min guarantee. If you fly one hour over your min guarantee (78+1=79) you will get 1/78 of your guarantee in addition.

That is a simplified explanation. There is also productivity bonuses and increased incentives that I won't go into.

Thanks metro. Looking for a330 as p1...already applied with contract air. Now waiting...

If you have the hours to qualify for P1 A330, then apply for the B777, much better route structure and growing fleet that gives the opportunity to earn overtime. They don't care if you have flown the A330 or B777 before, you will undergo a full type rating.

Only downside to this plan is that you will be bonded on the B777 at 50% of basic salary for 4 months then 25% until they reach 100,000 Riyals, you get it back 2 years after release to the line.

Mutt

Thanks Mutt..That seems good..will try that..Dont mind the bond , since I intend to stay there longer..

SV Maintenance staff 2013
 

Hi,
Aviators just tell me as they are just expanding their fleet many folds:ok:, what is happening to technician and engineers recruitment in the first half of 2013.
Any suggestions in particular from the staff there is appreciated.......;) .

Does anybody know the breakdown of salary for Saudi Air. I read in one of the sites that a junior B747-4 Capt gets about US$7800, and a senior Capt of up to $30,000.
Appreciate your assistance and Thanks in advance.

MJ

Hello Mutt
 

They have never hired direct entries for the B744, so no one will be able to give you the figures that you seek. However, I will say that you are confusing salary with earnings, the basic is about $10k, the top scale about $16k (But you will never earn this). Earnings are based on productivity, overtime etc, but as I said, there are no new hire expats on this fleet, so no one to compare salaries with :)

I will give you the same advise as the previous guy, if you have the experience for the B744, then ask for the B777.

Mutt

Living in Saudi
 

Besides all the remarks about salary....contract details can probably be requested by Contractair.

How is the life as B744 Capt in Saudi as it is clear commuting is not an option and if not having the possibility to take family with you.

Could someone please post an honest answer...who actually work/live in Saudi.

How many days do you actually spend in Jeddah, living, accommodation and how is life in general as "single" there.

Thanks in advance

They are advertising for B744 Captains for the first time, so it shouldn't be a wild goose chase, however,

to me, direct entry means that you are qualified with hours, show up, do a shortened course and are released to fly the aircraft. However around here that gets lost in the translation, there is absolutely no difference in the training between a qualified B744 driver and a non qualified one. You have to obtain a GACA licence rather than obtain a validation on your present licence. So bring a big big big bag of patience.

Manfromthenorth, there are 2 expats presently flying the B744, the others have retired, in some cases they were in Jeddah for nigh on 40 years, so it cant be all bad :) Because life on each fleet is different, it will be impractical for anyone who isnt flying the B744 to answer your question.

BTW, if you mean "single", you will have a great time, if you mean "geographically single" then it wont be easy.

They presently operate 4 B744's that only do routes to Manila and Colombo, with the usual domestic, gulf return trips. Gone are the days when Manila was a 8-10 day trip. The Cargo division will take delivery of 2 B748-F's in a few months, with a RUMOR that the airline will also take them, so this fleet could become fun or if it doesn't expand, it could be extremely boring.

Mutt

Thanks again Mutt..

mj

any updates?

hello chaps,
i've got an assessment on the 777 DEC on the cards. appreciate some help on what the assessment and interview process is about.
thanks

rdr check you PM

Saudia was in Los Angeles this past weekend. Was that for pilot interviews?

It's a forthcoming destination with the 777-300


Mutt

So, no on pilots, just local staff?

mutt-Minimum Guaranteed Time(MGT)
 

Hi Mutt,

Just had the interview for B744. In the T & C's MGT is given as 78 Hrs per month. Is this MGT based on credit hours or specifically block hours?

The same question applies to the Overtime Payment,Monthly Productivity Allowance. Would these extra payments be based on credit hours or block hours per month/year?

Any clarity you might give on the above would be much appreciated.

ATB.

Mauijim-Saudia Interview
 

Had the interview about the month ago for B744. Can give you a heads up if you wish?

I would like to hear your thoughts, gouge and prior experience.

Salary and overtime are based on credit hours, all productivity payments are on block hours.

Mutt

mutt.
 

OK Mutt,

Thank you for confirming that for me.

ATB.

Mutt.
 

Hi Mutt,thank for the info on the credit/block hour details.Very helpful.

When you bid, what's the likely hood of getting block days off to commute?

What's the realistic block length of days off you can achieve on a typical month,if any?

Can you increase the block by using some of your leave days on a month by month basis,operational requirements considered of course.

Thank you for your help.

ATB.

They offer 5 consecutive days off in a row.

Mutt

Mutt.
Please check your PM.
Thanks.

Greetings.

Any information on the monthly average hours flown, destinations and general lifestyle on the A320 fleet, will be very much appreciated.

SV771 Cabin Crew on 9th may 2013 from Chennai to Dammam.
 

Hi Everyone, Here im gonna post my feeling right here with me about that happened between me and the air hostess who is sitting in front of me near the emergency door exit and she doesn't talk to me but she wanted to say something to me. i had just looked at her and we didn't talk a bit, but our eyes spoke a lot, i looked at her, she looked at me. It was a great feeling what we both had finally i thought to speak to her but we got reached dammam and i never talk to her and leave the seat immediately.. i feel sad about that and knew that i made a mistake.. i have to say something to her but i didn't... i feel so so sad... i would like to say sorry to that girl.. sorry for posting my personal feeling... because my mind was getting disturbed since i leave the flight...

Thanks for reading my post..
ARHK

Mutt, Could you please check your private messages.

B777
 

Hi guys

Looking for heads up on T7 upcoming event in PARIS
How's the interview like , sim ride ,etc

Appreciate any feed back I've been with my old man in saudia city in the nineties
And we enjoyed a lot and he liked flying there very much ..
I came to know very good SV crew at this time ..

I wanna take a shot there myself ..
A lot of good memories

Is it still good place for a family with kids .?!


Thnx &rgrds

Hello guys,

Any help regarding the assessment would be appreciated.it seems hiring is contracted out now. Can someone guide as to which agency is offering a better deal.sigma is the one that is in touch with me.

Regards

Raked wings

I thought that the agencies were advertising and finding, but the employment is actually by SVA, therefore all the contracts are the same.

They were fun days :):) I think that you will find that the demographics have changed a lot and english is no longer the primary language, but that said, others have returned with their families and are loving it.

Mutt

Fun days indeed
 

Definitely .. Great days

Thanx mutt

Check pm pls ,,

Hey Mutt...

Are you still in the sandbox?

I'm finally done...sold the bar and looking for other (non-flying) opportunities...

PM me if you get a chance...Dale

Schooling allowances
 

Can anyone share some infos concerning the schooling allowance.
My main concern is if the allowance is just for children living with you in Saudi or also if they are living abroad.
Will be a kind of reimboursement or is it payed in advance ?

Kids in and out of KSA. Only up to the 9th year. Approximately $7100 usd per year. Maximum 3 kids. Re-imbursememt after providing receipts and documents. It is really a pain to get it back.