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mutt 29th August 2009 02:55


Knowing SV the way I do (was there for quite a long time)
411A you crack me up, you left Saudia in 1990!!!!!!

BMAN1, nobody knows the answer to your question as they dont have any SICs qualified on the H400 yet.........

Mutt

metro301 29th August 2009 15:32

Mutt, BTW, Congrats on the course! I just heard the other day.

I thought the number seemed high also, but guys are apparently leaving for all 3 of the other carriers.

For example, the fellow that had taken over as Manager of the MD90/E70 has already left to SAMA. At least that is what I had been told.

BMAN1 29th August 2009 23:18

BMAN1, nobody knows the answer to your question as they dont have any SICs qualified on the H400 yet.........


Then who is flying the BE40XPs that Saudia has already received?

mutt 30th August 2009 04:10

Captains........ :):)

Mutt

Smashy 31st August 2009 21:00

Worth the effort?
 
I'm just interested to know; is it worth the jumping through the hoops to fly an A320 for Saudia at the moment?

EY763ER 31st August 2009 21:40

Dear Mutt,

Its been excellent to read all your posts, and there seems to be little doubt on your accuracy of the details which you provide!

I had a quick question to ask and was hoping you could reply:

On international layovers, are flight deck always in good hotels?

Does the airline include a meal in the hotels?

Is it possible to get your own accomodation and receive an allowance instead of taking the compound accomodation?

thanks for all your time and effort!!

Ramadhan kareem!!

EY763ER

mutt 1st September 2009 01:47

Yes (Generally.... Riyadh Sahara doesnt count :))....... but it depends on your definition of good hotel.... do you mean good standard or good location, and if you are talking about location, what defines a good location? Downtown Manhattan or a nice Long Island location?

Nope..... Per Diems paid per hour at end of the month...

Nope.... plus you wouldn't want to, the housing allowance is crap! 3x basic salary.


Mutt

EY763ER 1st September 2009 09:59

my idea of a good hotel is good standard, thus 4* or more.

mutt 1st September 2009 13:13

Then the answer is yes :)

But i find it strange, do you actually consider the hotels as a selection criteria? I would have thought that route structure would be more important! Not much point in knowing that you are entitled to a suite in xxxx city, if your aircraft doesn't fly there!!

Mutt

EY763ER 2nd September 2009 03:57

the reason i was asking is becasue i am of the opinion that i dont mind flying to any country as long as i have been given good hotel acomodation (and for that i mean a good standard). All the other questions which i had have been answered by yourself previously on this thread (as so many people have sent you so many questions, and there is a wealth of information available here).

so, on that note, i would like to say 'thanks' for the time you have taken in answering my question.

All the best!

BritishGuy 2nd September 2009 04:30

Did you manage to work out how to log on then?? I'm having major problems. I've written to the webmaster many times but no joy.

Desert Diner 2nd September 2009 06:35


and for that i mean a good standard
Most hotels tend to have relatively clean sheets, so I guess that must be a good standard.:bored:

mutt 2nd September 2009 11:41

British guy..... use IE6 or greater....... nothing else....

EY767ER, glad that i could help :ok:

Mutt

asia757 3rd September 2009 04:32

Interviews in October?
 
I think I have read most of the posts on Saudi Airlines, but maybe I missed something somewhere!

Can anyone tell me what is being asked in the interview? What is the sim profile and what equipment is being used for the evaluation for the A320 captain jobs? What are the medical issues which might keep someone from being hired. Are the written test questions directly from the FAA ATP Test quide or is it expanded to include NAT Track, RVSM, ETOP's, etc?

Sorry if these questions were answered somewhere else, if they were please direct me to the right post or source.

Smashy 6th September 2009 13:41

Living and working -SV
 
I asked this once but didn't get a response so I'll rephrase it;

I there an expat Brit who would be willing to share their experiences of SV.

pm me

thanks

AXELYUDIST 7th September 2009 11:59

oktober interview
 
Hi guys,anybody know about interview at saudi airlines ,written test,interview,and sim ride etc [ capt a320 ]
my turn at oktober,thanks :ok:

lucille 11th September 2009 20:17

Strange as it may seem to an office wallah, the quality of hotels are really important. They define the quality of ones rest and therefore the fitness of a crew to operate.

This point is overlooked by all the bean counters in their zeal to save the company 20 halalas.

Poor rest = reduced safety. Now how difficult is that to understand?

Surprising as it may seem to all of us who actually fly for a living, this concept is as difficult to grasp as Einstein's Theory of Relativity to the chaps who work in offices and who go to bed at 10 pm every night and sleep soundly with a gut full of sid.

mutt 22nd September 2009 08:10

Yahoo.... holidays over, Ramadan over, EID over...... Let the chaos continue :)

1st A320 due in 2 weeks, 9 before the end of the year. 1st expat Captain class starts 2nd week Oct in TLS. B747C FO AND FE class starts around the same week.

A320 Captain interviews in Oct, I believe in Jeddah.
SFS Captain/FO interviews in Nov, in Dubai.

The one thing that puzzles me is that of the 20 crew hired in the last couple of months, NO ONE is bitching on pprune :)

Mutt

sleepypilot 22nd September 2009 09:23

gmorning Mutt,
newcomer on this thread, with a question.
Do you expect any openings for 777 Dec positions in the near future?

mutt 22nd September 2009 09:43


Do you expect any openings for 777 Dec positions in the near future?
Not a hope, locals only.

Mutt

sleepypilot 22nd September 2009 12:37

Mutt
 
thanks.
Scrolling through previous posts, you mention you know little on the Falcon and that it operates under some type of FAR (can't remember). But I imagine it won't be too far, in terms of conditions, from the SV contract.
What is your opinion?

mutt 22nd September 2009 15:02

Falcon 900 operates under FAR91, Falcon 7X operates under FAR135. The contract is the same as the airline with the same salary structure based upon aircraft weight.

Mutt

sleepypilot 22nd September 2009 15:21

Mutt
 
ok, I'll search for the meaning of those FARs.
thanks

mutt 22nd September 2009 15:44

FAR91 operating a private aircraft for the owner, not for hire or reward.

FAR135 Non schedule operations for hire or reward.

From pilots point of view, FAR 91 has no duty time limitations, FAR135 has!

Mutt

alldaysushi 26th September 2009 16:40

Saudia looking again 74 classic?
 
Hello,

Can anyone shed light on whether SV is, or maybe will be looking for classic guys again.

Thanks again...

mutt 26th September 2009 18:33

Thought they were still interviewing FO's..... No more FE's...

Mutt

mutt 28th September 2009 08:04

Finally, its nice when 2 years of work comes alive... :):)

http://www.flightglobal.com/airspace...5-sva-edhi.jpg

Mutt

sleepypilot 28th September 2009 13:52

Mutt
 
thanks for the explanation

cantbeafoolinlove 28th September 2009 16:06

Hi Mutt,
Is that the SV Owned 320? also the tail livery is a temporary one or its a new livery?
CBAFIL

mutt 28th September 2009 16:22

Its owned by a leasing company, but Saudia operated, its not a new scheme, they just hadnt finished painting it...... Expect it in Jeddah on Friday and rapidly followed by 8 more :)

BTW, note the single overwing emergency exit, lots of rumors as to why it doesn't have two exits, but the fact is that it only has 136 seats! The SVA aircraft (not leased) will have even less :)

Mutt

BadAndy 28th September 2009 16:50


BTW, note the single overwing emergency exit, lots of rumors as to why it doesn't have two exits,
Three words -- COMFORTABLE SEAT PITCH (even in coach...). Can't wait to see it on Friday. Mutt, if we're sitting around waiting for class, do you know if we can come out to the hangar and see it on Friday?

Beeraz 1st October 2009 15:37

Hawker 400XP
 
Hi guys,
Any news from the BE40 recruitment? Do they still need pilots or are they full now?

mutt 1st October 2009 16:41

Still ongoing...... interviews in Nov or Jan...

Mutt

mutt 2nd October 2009 17:28


Saudi Arabian Airlines (Saudia), Saudi Arabia’s national airline, has taken the delivery of its first Airbus A320 becoming the newest operator of the aircraft. The aircraft was acquired under a long term lease agreement with ALAFCO.

The A320 will be deployed on routes in the region, to Europe and to the Indian subcontinent, from Saudia’s hub in Riyadh. Depending on configuration, the A320-200s, will seat between 120 and 132 passengers in two-classes. The aircraft are powered by CFM56 engines.
Arrives in Jeddah tonight, 4 by the end of the month, 9 by the end of the year:ok:

BTW, as the A320 fleet increases, the leased fleet will decrease, 2x 757's will go Jan 1, the other 2 on Jun 1..... For those contractors with Atlas, be warned......

Mutt

411A 2nd October 2009 23:34


...the leased fleet will decrease
And, so it goes...ain't changed much in twenty five years...and more.
Ebb...and flow, with leased-in aircraft.
No surprise, except for the uninformed.:}

744 NOMAD 3rd October 2009 12:00

Screening for Captain 320 and FO B744
 
Hi Guys,

I have screening with Saudi Arabian Airlines in Jeddah next week for Captain A320 or FO B744.

Anyone have any "gouges" for the Technical Quiz, the Interview and the Sim Profiles.

Anything appreciated!
Cheers,
Nomad

mutt 3rd October 2009 18:02


FO B744.
......... No you are NOT.......... CLASSIC 747.

Mutt

flyboy1972 3rd October 2009 19:20

Hey Mutt,
Do you have any idea when the next 747 FO class might start??
Thanks

mutt 3rd October 2009 19:37

Next Saturday.

Mutt

744 NOMAD 4th October 2009 11:17

B747....
 
Mutt,

Re: Saudi Arabian Airlines Screening.

Thanks for that. I did not realise still had B747 classic with major ME airlines. After 9 yrs/6000 hrs+ on the B744 would not be an easy way back to the steam gauges.

Guys
Any info/gouges on the Test Quiz, Inerviews (Tech and HR) and Sim profiles/airport in use? Assume Jeddah?

Thanks,
Nomad


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