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Monkey Brains 4th Sep 2021 07:55

the years above 10 you will get 4 tickets per year based on last booking eligibility. Priority is between current staff and buddy pass.

So 10 years in service will be 10, 14 years will be 14 years tickets

jacekgfly 4th Sep 2021 08:20

Only on QR

mmorel 4th Sep 2021 09:12

I think they change it to minimum 15 years .
so if you work only 10 years you will not be entitled

Monkey Brains 4th Sep 2021 09:41

When did that happen?

mmorel 4th Sep 2021 13:52

Please look at the staff travel documents under GEMS Maybe they have updated it .

https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....fde386b76c.png

oh101 4th Sep 2021 18:09

Thank you, guys.

oh101 5th Sep 2021 02:02

Thank you to the person that PM me with the instructions how to find the information from the Aerodoc.
Appreciate your instruction. I found it.

For some reason, I couldn't reply to your PM.

Thanks again.

007busdriver 5th Sep 2021 10:57

No one is talking about re-joiners, is that stopped or what?

tundrapilot 5th Sep 2021 17:45

it is stopped for the time being. They called some people in August. Maybe next month again

Monkey Brains 5th Sep 2021 18:06

people have joining dates up to in December..

007busdriver 5th Sep 2021 18:24

tundrapilot

Do you know their fleet?

FlyHigher 21st Sep 2021 09:44

As far as I know, quite a few joining on Boeing fleet.

teroken 25th Sep 2021 19:16

Guys any news about new joiner's contracts after 09/2021? I mean do they still ask to sign 25% less contract but pay full salary? Or again how it used to be?

007busdriver 1st Oct 2021 16:00

As far as I heard new joiners are still to sign deducted salary. And it will be the same until the spring.

APU_inop 2nd Oct 2021 19:23

No more 25% paycut on the basic

tundrapilot 6th Oct 2021 19:41

320, 787, 777 pilots fly like horses but not many pilots get invitations to rejoin. This company will never manage to have a roster of 70 hours a month for pilots. a roster with 11 days off per month and 70 hours of flying sounds unmanageable for QR.
especially 320 sucks now, 7 days off average

007busdriver 15th Oct 2021 08:35

Has anyone been called so far this month?

The Rage 15th Oct 2021 08:53

Yes, people are being called back on short notice.

FlyHigher 15th Oct 2021 20:41

Very short notice. In some cases 2 or 3 days!

Flyboy_SG 16th Oct 2021 06:01

Just wondering/out of curiosity, how much time do you guys fly on long haul a month on the new FDTL? I believe rest time is not counted towards paid/FTL block?

Xaxa 16th Oct 2021 12:23

I’ve seen 160hrs roster of a 777 captain. :mad:

jacekgfly 16th Oct 2021 12:44

CP A350 +160 h block. +180 h duty

Travelbiz 16th Oct 2021 16:07

I’ve heard that the British Airways 777 pilots declined the invitation to work in qr, good to know.
I think nobody will ever trust this company again after all they did to their pilots.
I think they’ll go back to what they were, the last choice in the ME.

Flyboy_SG 16th Oct 2021 16:31

Holy COW ! That's like 6 ULRs a month :rolleyes: killing !

Flyboy_SG 16th Oct 2021 16:33

tundrapilott

Paying overtime is cheaper than to have more pilots. Probably why they do it.

Dumbass863 16th Oct 2021 21:15

Flyboy_SG

i’ve seen few 350 rosters with 180hrs BLOCK in 30 days. I believe the same happened on the 777. And with a LPC/OPC between.

But no worry gaptain, you’re legal! :ok: Btw, you have a new LMS about human trafficking. Your professionalism is appreciated.

FlightDetent 17th Oct 2021 02:36

Flyboy_SG

Apparently, only until you discover the opportunity of not paying for overtime.

Flyboy_SG 17th Oct 2021 04:17

180 ?
Personally 100 hrs of ULR/LR itself is killing, but that 10 BDO was a breather. I can't imagine living on 160-180 with no BDO !
Nevertheless they'll get 20-30k applications when they open up.

Whitemonk Returns 17th Oct 2021 19:57

Dumbass863

My first 12 months with a UK LCC several years ago I flew 220 block hours....

That's 5 weeks at QRs current rate 🤔 needless to say, they will be recruiting soon as nobody is going to put up with that for too much longer

fatbus 18th Oct 2021 09:02

How are block hours vs flight hour vs logbook hours vs paid hours . 1000 hours /year max ?

737a 18th Oct 2021 12:40

Hiring a recruitment specialist
 
Interestingly QR is looking for a recruitment specialist to hire flight deck crew, and that seems like a sign of external hirings soon. Good luck everyone who needs to go back to the sandpit and newbies who thinks is all rainbows and butterflies. Just be sure you are getting yourself into true turmoil when you join these ME companies.

tundrapilot 18th Oct 2021 17:49

I don't think external recruitment will happen soon. They have over a thousand pilots on the list to call back. let's assume 10 % of them had final warning letters.
another 900 remaining. Let's say out of 900 another 200 will say NO.
still 700 hundred remaining. and all those pilots have already a Qatari pilot's license and a type rating on it at company's fleet. This number can cover company's demand for at least another 2 years. From what I have heard they are going to give priority to Ex crews. In addition to that the do fleet transfers from Airbus to Boeing on re-hiring pilots so they do not care much about external recruitment. They can do whatever they want with the ones that got redundant

Flyboy_SG 18th Oct 2021 18:22

From what I heard from top management official in QR, they are going to open up to externals within the next 3 months. You guys will have to wait until that happens.
Even if this guys info is wrong, 700 isn't a big number and definitely won't cover the next two year demand of QR.

Flyboy_SG 18th Oct 2021 18:26

737a

I second this, Quicksand pit indeed.

Fadecwithnos 18th Oct 2021 18:40

737a

As tundrapilot mentioned there are still several pilots to be brought back, and logistically speaking it's way better for the airline since they're holders of RP's and QCAA licenses.... But we must never forget the qsense factor...

Regarding the flight crew recruiter, maybe this opportunity is to add some manpower to the "3 stooges dept" formed by only 3 people, highly underpaid and underqualified as most of the management departments in this airline. These 3 are doing an utterly pathetic job bringing back people, sometimes giving less than 36 hours to pack the things....

As always, the company is running behind the clock not by hours, but by months...

tundrapilot 20th Oct 2021 10:33

Fadecwithnos, I agree. All the rejoining pilots who got redundant are being handled by recruiters so that's why probably they want to hire another recruiter. Maybe someone quitted too. So nothing abnormal with that

Flaperon777 21st Oct 2021 01:48

A lot depends on how much of the total fleet is flying presently with the current pilot force.
Anyone has that approximate number ?
Based on that number it will be very easy to project future demand and availability requirements.
Which are the main fleets flying.
350’s and 787’s ?

tundrapilot 28th Oct 2021 17:47

Emirates has officially started hiring external pilots while the have over 1000 of their redundant crews on list.
Do you think QR is going to do the same ? I think this move shows zero respect for the crews who used to work here. At least for those who had good files

Flyboy_SG 29th Oct 2021 03:35

Respect & Loyalty - these words doesn't exist in the Middle East dictionary.

jacekgfly 1st Nov 2021 06:44

Is QR still recalling redundant crew? If so what fleet?


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