tundrapilot
Absolute rubbish. There is no external recruitment at EK. All the applications are going into a hold pool for when it does start. And that little gem is straight from the camels mouth. But hey don’t let facts destroy your story! Im in no way defending how the process was managed but they will be bringing back those they want before externals. |
Flyfast123... that's good.. I wish EK does not hire externals before taking into consideration their redundant pilots. That would be a shame for EK and for QR as well. Only reason I would say is acceptable for not calling a redundant crew is final warning letter and multiple simulator or line check failures. (let's say more than one failure).
As far as the numbers ... There were 4100 pilots at QR before covid. maybe 4150 if I remember correctly. Nothing less than 4050 for sure and I can dig and find it at the company's old magazine issues. When the reduction started about 1500-1600 got redundant ... that's my number and sorry if I disagree with Winged Lion. So let's say the number was 2600 in the first quarter of 2021. In May they started rehiring by calling a few people. There is no way according to the numbers described at the previous post above that QR has hired and retrained 800 people from June until now. It is only 5 months. Actually Wing Lions says that QR rehired 800 pilots in 4 months. That's not even possible from the recruitment department to handle such a huge number. Come on let's be realistic... Many of them got from the Airbus a Boeing type rating which mean lengthy process. All of them need at least one and a half month of training regardless fleet change or not. The ones with a fleet change need several months. QR is not capable to train so many pilots from June until end of October ... In five months.. 800 people. It is not possible... Even half of it it is not possible. Wing Lion if you disagree let's discuss it. I might be wrong. It is a discussion here and not an argument. Thanks |
Much of the training for type conversions has been outsourced.
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Don't forget attrition levels are apparently still high amongst the 777 fleet.
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Hey guys, Just wanted to know for QR, if someone has a warning letter, what are the chances of being called back? Thanks
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People with warning letters have been called back already. If it was a final warning then it is different, but you never know....
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qrteria in qr ain't something logical, nor fair
The so called qsense. You should know that! |
Ahh the Qsense - that a good one. No rhyme of reason - just complete knee jerk reaction to events.
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That wasn't some chap, that was just some :mad:. Probably of the same ilk who find it amusing to meaow on guard radio at 3AM.
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Do they still recall redundant pilot? Heard that they will maybe start with external recruitment after the new year.
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Yes, redundant pilots are still rejoining. It’s gonna take some time yet. Meanwhile, company will prepare to start external hiring, first focusing on type rated experienced pilots.
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I cannot understand how QR will start external hiring especially in 2022. That sounds like a joke ... They have more than 800 redundant pilots on the list to call back. Also the new covid variant from Africa brought new problems..
If they do it , it will be something like what EK did. Express of interest but no actual hiring |
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They probably don't want all the 600 back I reckon, it's the middle east after all they like to pick and choose and the smallest misdemeanor in their eyes (like being in a naughty Whatsapp group) and you're permanently banished. Qsense as someone said above.
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Who knows the logic? There is none. I know people with active warning letters that are already back.
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Referring to 600? What is that? There was the first 600 at EK , are you saying that QR did the same or only 600 total at QR ?
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[(like being in a naughty Whatsapp group) and you're permanently banished.
Yea.... managers really worked hard to look into WhatsApp groups...Trust me, in most groups, it was only an exchange of everyday life in Doha, Not much about the company, Only when the pandemic began people started to question what decision would the company take. But hey it's better to call a 63-year-old captain and bond him for 3 years ( age limit is 65) or a pilot with warning letters. Makes us understand how bad they handled everything. |
I just think that they want to understand how much demand is out there. How many people are willing to go to the ME. Ek opened for external pilots during the summer... wouldn't be surprised QR copied them. Monkey see, monkey do
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Correct...
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Maybe they are going through the rehiring process by seniority. so your opinion is 63 years old pilot with over 12 years of experience in Qatar Airways should be called back?
Anyone who is over 55 years old has less chance to get a job in other companies so their hope is to get back to Qatar Airways. |
Hello Mmorel, Qr is not rehiring by seniority. 2 Cpts I know had only 6 months on the A330 before the Pandemic started. They are back in Qr doing a 777 full type rating. Don't you think it's a bit silly? Bond them for 3 years at an age of 63?
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Hi,
yes, in that case, you are right. The mentality of this company will never change. |
Just to be clear. The witch hunt on wattsapp groups was led by a lanky peice of Italian crap who rose up from the **** pipes of another airline and sucked his way up to the highest flight ops position.
The wattsapp groups were easy pickings for him. How the Italian community let him still walk is a mystery. |
Looks like qatar start hiring external pilot who type rated in B777/787, does it means that they already finish recalling redundant pilot?
https://careers.qatarairways.com/glo...-First-Officer |
Maybe all rated FOs on 777/787 that were made redundant have been called back.
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To my last post, they are looking for pilot for all fleets and grades. So the ones that got redundant and did not receive a email until now..... yea then its goodbye....
Apparently the BOSS did not keep his promise. |
I wonder how many applications will they get from recent 777 and 787 crew... Recency might be the biggest issue now...
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Plenty from Turkish Airlines that will apply
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It's awful how they treat pilots. I know some pilots who works more than 10 years without any sick days and they have not called them back.
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Originally Posted by tundrapilot
(Post 11147626)
I cannot understand how QR will start external hiring especially in 2022. That sounds like a joke ... They have more than 800 redundant pilots on the list to call back. Also the new covid variant from Africa brought new problems..
If they do it , it will be something like what EK did. Express of interest but no actual hiring Wonder, how many SFO will stay in the company, if they are waiting 8+ years for the upgrade and company is still prioritizing Direct Entry Captains, who will require basically the same amount of training. Also, many ex-Cathay Pacific and ex-Etihad 777s are coming. |
Originally Posted by mmorel
(Post 11151799)
It's awful how they treat pilots. I know some pilots who works more than 10 years without any sick days and they have not called them back.
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And what happened to the NTR pals? No ad for them!
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Yep, recency is a big issue. Who has 12 months currency?!
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Originally Posted by TBL Warrior
(Post 11152041)
Any info if there is (still) an embargo for EK past/present employees to apply?
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They are just trying to get a pool of available pilots. No real new hiring yet. 12months current requirement is a joke. Maybe they put their hiring ads because EK just did so.
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Originally Posted by karnc
(Post 11152430)
They are just trying to get a pool of available pilots. No real new hiring yet. 12months current requirement is a joke. Maybe they put their hiring ads because EK just did so.
EK advertised "Expression of interest" for future requirements. QR posted a job vacancy. Both are two different adverts. |
Originally Posted by 777JockeyIN
(Post 11152448)
What to expect in online assessments? Any info or guess ?
https://www.pprune.org/middle-east/643473-joining-qatar-airways-master-thread-2-a.html#post11152726 |
Originally Posted by LandCruiserFTW
(Post 11152014)
if they are waiting 8+ years for the upgrade and company is still prioritizing Direct Entry Captains, who will require basically the same amount of training.
Also, many ex-Cathay Pacific and ex-Etihad 777s are coming. That really is a sad thing, Besides many of these guys have 1000s of 320/737 PIC time, and or unfortunately joined at wrong time. |
Anyone got email for online assessment?
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Nope not yet, do you have 12 month flight currency ?
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