to NGFellow
 

What did they ask you??

They verify any gaps in employment.

Verification of employment and any gaps in employment. She said my app was moving up the ladder and so she had to verify. Also was asked about my availability for an interview and start.

To NGFellow
 

Thank you very much for the info...

Ale

Sounds like if you want to fly the A380, you should have some Airbus experience when you start. You go to A330 initially, get trained on the A340 after a year or so and then have the 4 engine Airbus experience EK wants for A380 flying. At least that's what it sounds like to me...

Looks like the Airbus side will see most of the growth (percentage wise) going forward as more A380s and A350s arrive over the next 5-10 years...

Iver, having Airbus expeience won't mean you get put on the A330. If they are looking for 777 guys that week that is where you will end up, even if you are current on the A330/340. You don't get a choice about which fleet you end up on, although they may ask if you have a preference.

What are they hiring for these days? Is the bond still $35,000/3 years? Is it a decreasing bond?

hey NGfellow
what's your experience and TRs?thnks

Age> 50, TT > 10,000, PIC> 5000. Jet Type rating.

NG,

F/O for A330/340 and 777 (no direct hires on the A380 or DECs (yet!!)), about 70% of new-hires onto the 777.

Yes

Yes.

Hope that helps

Thanks for the info. Just got a call from a very pleasant Captain regarding an interview.
However, I decided not to opt for it.

I applied last week and got a call this week for the screening/interview.
I have 2700 hours on 737ng and 3000 total time.
I have read a lot of the previous posts about EK and Dubai which obvious raise concerns but I also know guys who are down their already and are mostly happy. I have a family etc and I am undecided, I could stay in Europe and upgrade with my current firm this summer and be moved to another base at my expense or give the desert a go and see for myself. I will use the 4 day assessment to see for myself and ask lots of questions as I am open minded.
Any useful tips welcome.

Most new guys are relatively happy until the rose tinted sunglasses come off, which is happening increasingly quickly nowadays, then reality hits home ie being a long way from home, being trapped with loans to pay off before being allowed to leave etc etc, its all been said before!! Wonder if your friends are still so happy after the latest financial hit. See the thread about the bonus / pay rise!

You state that there are things that raise concerns, that should already get you thinking!! At least when you get here for interview or even before if you can, try to talk to a variety of FOs /Capts here to get there views. The majority of guys will give you a good run down on what it used to be like and what it is like now!!

I repeat this again, Emirates is the LAST place you should contemplate, use it as a last resort NOT a garden of eden.

You have been warned!

If it's any help to those of you thinking of come here, this is no bull.

Two guys on the groung school course are ready to walk out!!!! no sh1t.

Hi all,

There are a lot of Pilots I work with here in the UK that are baffled with what is so bad about life in Dubai and with Emirates. Here in the UK, we don't know if we are going to have a job next week or next month, flying old battered aircraft and living in country that's gone to the dogs. Crime is sky high and that's only matched by the Taxation. We don't even get a cup of tea on board, and no pay rise for years, and the airline hanging on by a thread every time the oil price goes up or there's a volcano erupting.

I'm not for one second saying that the Emirates Pilots are complaining for just for the sake if it. There must be some positives about Emirates compared to life working for a Lo-co here in the UK. I am intrigued by the high number is EK pilots who are not happy. Why?

What we see here in the UK regarding EK is:

1. You fly brand new Boeing/Airbus with an ever expanding fleet
2. You fly all around the globe (some good places and some bad)
3. I imagine the food on board and the hotels are a reasonable standard,
along with allowances etc.
4. You have Job security.
5. Tax free salary ?
6 Accomodation paid for or an allowance towards your own place.
7. Private education for the kids
8. Decent weather all year round but extremely hot during the summer
9. Staff travel and family travel benefits .
10. Medical

I don't have any of these things. I know that all that glitters is not gold, and I am not saying that EK is the place to be either. I've pointed out a few things that may or may not be the case with EK, but could someone please explain to guys outside the UAE and EK, why life at say Ryanair or contracting somewhere else in the world, would be so much better than EK. Please guys, I just want a fair response to my thread. I am just asking what genuinely makes it all so bad, that so many of you want to leave.

Thank you for taking the time respond.

SJet

Hey DRM---How much heads up did they give you for the interview?? They wanted me to come this week with 5 days notice. I couldn't swing that, so waiting on a reschedule.....hopefully......anyone else have to reschedule to a later date?

BMI 30 is the limit. How strict are they on the BMI for the interview medical?

Its the limit, it means you are fat and a doughnut from being obese. Statistically you will cost the company more in health care costs and die earlier. Unless you are ultra-fit/high in muscle proved by skin fold measurements, why would they take you? If I were trying to get the job, I'd get on a treadmill and make it a non-issue.

Si Jet

1. It's like a new car, after a few months, it's.... a car!
2. What a feeling of flying 90+ hours all over the world! One day in Brazil, 48 hours later in Malaysia, come back home, short break, wake up at midnight, put a smile on your face head for India, or better, beautiful Maldives, come back to your home in Dubai just in time for tea time! If this is what you call lifestyle, you'll have a blast here.
3. There is nothing worst then galley food in any airline. Might taste better in some...still galley food!
4. You are so wrong, you are so at risk here. One mistake at work, one collision with the wrong person and you are out of here (make also your homework on appropriate behavior in an Islamic country, many expats payed the high price for some non tolerated behavior here).
You are actually walking on a wire. You will be disposed with out hesitation. If you are a good boy, yes you will enjoy an expanding network with a expanding fatigue level!
5. Tax free salary, yes, please make the maths on what you will bring net back home for your savings, DHS=USD!
6. Accomodation will be their choice, not yours, it's a lottery, might like it, might not and if you or the Miss doesn't like it, tough luck. Allowance: you need to be Captain to pay yourself a family villa, F.O. will pay for a flat.
7. There's private education in every city or country.
8. If you can enjoy it, good for you.
9. Mix emotions here, great to have a e-ticket quickly, problem is can you get on board (full flight, embargo on your destination,...) At least from UK you have options.
10. Watch out and read the fine prints. This department is in a major cost cutting mode, i.e. the coverage for your dependents just went significantly down with the latest revision! They will often play the card of a pre-condition to bail out of a treatment/payment in many cases.

Watch out for the salesman, might not really be the product you wanted or where looking for! The youtube short videos (how to cope with a pilot shortage,....) are such a good picture of what's happening here.

On the short term you will enjoy most of it, it's when you'll start digging under the surface that you'll realize the true colors of this place and then, you'll start to keep discovering!

And shortly after, keep recovering!

Good luck

HI CR9, exactly the same they wanted me there this week, but I could not get out of work at short notice so I contacted them and they gave me a load of other dates next month so I have to reschedule.

Thanks DRM...... Maybe I'll see you next month then...... Cheers

Nuuk,

Thank you very much for taking the time to reply to my post. I appreciate your points, and I'm getting the impression that no matter where you go and fly, this career is not what it once was. So, what are the options available?

Stay in your current airline for what you feel are the right reasons for you and your family, if applicable,or move somewhere else, where you think the grass maybe greener or the sand, sandier?

Again, I take note of the points that you make, and flying 90+ hours a month is not good for you and your well being. I don't know if Emirates are actively recuiting Pilots to reduce the current Pilots working hours or are they doing it to support their expanding fleet.

I think it all comes down to two things:

1. Your current circumstances and whether you are happy with them.

and

2. Your expectations from an airline career.

These two points will probably give you the direction in which way to follow. Only time will tell if you have made the right call.

Thanks again for your feedback.:ok:

Si jet

Could anyone advise me how the flight pay system works and what the rates are for a first officer, just trying to get an overall picure of what true earnings might be on a monthly basis. Also what standard of accommodation could I expect if I decided to take the job, I have a mrs and 2 small people.
Thanks lads.
Drm

Emirates interviews - think twice about working for them!
 

I have to be careful here as have friend working for Emirates almost 3 years! She is cabin crew. NONE of her friends have been able to carry on to reach end of 3 years' contract as they could not bear working for them! (have even heard 'hearsay' some have gone home and simply NOT returned!!) Many left after 2 years. I have heard about bullying of staff; staff being called in for 'disciplinaries' for no good reason, such as just a few days say in 6 months or AUTHORISED by clinic sick leave when the qualified doctors have told staff they MUST NOT FLY! ; giving her the 'bad rosters' - basically on flights to places crew don't like or the people they are flying (trying not to be racist here, but there are some PAX who are 'challenging'!!) Staff have NO EMPLOYMENT RIGHTS whatsoever - if such bullying/harassment were to go on in a co. in UK, they could sue for constructive dismissal! They have NO union representation/NO back up.
Emirates appear to be 'cutting corners' recruiting cheaper staff from India; still recruiting in UK but with lower pay on offer. All this bullying/harassment is SURELY going to severely lower the morale of staff - which MUST at some stage reflect their attitudes with passengers! Eventually the public could choose some of the smaller cheaper airlines - if these others are still in business themselves!
By all means if you are a young person 'wanting to see some of the world' apply for the job; maybe just do the job for about 18 months or so; but do not expect ANY employment rights or fair treatment as I hear 'they make up the rules as they go along'! I would be surprised if in the future IF they let a cabin crew member COMPLETE their 3-yr contract, when they should receive a pay-out, without 'trumping up something' to get rid of them. Hence they can get out of 'stumping up the money'!

Is there any chance that EK would look at anyone with less than the minimum requirements? I would like to join once I meet the updated requirements but would they invite an applicant for selection who currently does not meet these requirements?

Regards

Roy-- A buddy of mine just tried to apply with less than 4000TT (3820 to be exact) and it rejected his App when he submited it citing not enough total time.

EK Job!!
 

Habbibiii....

YES!! come to my beautiful country!! :ok:

Do not listen to all these Lazy Pilots.... they are just complain about nothings!

Is BEAUTIFUL place, with nice friendly courteous peoples... good weathers all of year for the Skiing's, Fishing's, Sailing's and the Phorewheeldriving's too...:} Your Wives and all your Girlfriends and all their Family will enjoy it! There is many many things to do for them all.... so many Shopping's Mall, Hotels, Sauna's and plenty of good roads and parkings too!

You will get a VERY good Contracts with plenty of Holiday with nice Accommodations, with very good salaries, excellent Bonus!, a nice allowances and the Taxes are all for free! :suspect:

Also you can fly the nice shiny Airplane all of the nights..:rolleyes:.. and have one day off all of the months to take your Family skiing at the Mall!...Habbibii...It is a PARADISE! :ok:

Also we all have a very, very good Managers at E.K.....:suspect: ....they work very hard to make for the cheaper Airline and to make the Pilot work more harder!.. for the less!! ..for better of my wonderful Country debt reduction and to keep all Locals in good Job!...:ugh:..... Only last week I was at Capt American's Villa for fairwell Party to ED... ...Every one was there..... TCAS, T.C., Maurie...even E.G.T. was there (and he write his first F.C.I.!!) - but no Lazy Pilot was there!!... ED was so shocked! He a very fine experience Management Guy, and very good to all Pilots, with many many GOOD changes to Contract. He has many many hours long haul Pilot...his Englishes was nice, he write many, many F.C.I's, F.C.N's and Emails... We miss him soooo.... much already on 9th Floor,... especially after Gym Class in Sauna...:O....

So come...tell all your Pilot Friends not to be Lazy Pilots and come to work for me!! You will be treated like a KING!!! :}

Habbibiii....You will love it here!! :E

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Approximately how much do you guys make per month in US dollars? I fly for Delta Airlines and was considering leaving to make more money. I skipped through this thread and decided that is not a good idea. I was under the impression Emirates first officers make over $20,000/month. That's about 3 times what I make as a junior Delta first officer. Is this not the case?

..Err...Training Captains make less than that- CONSIDERABLY less!!!

Base for an FO is currently around 24 100 AED= 6 566 USD/ Mth.

With free Housing, health, provident fund and education allowance, I guess 8-10 000 might be a fair package estimate depending on individual circumstances.

Mos,


Yes I made a typo (divided 25000 by 3 instead of 3.67), so your figure is correct, and on that basis a package figure of around 8-11K is probably ball park (I thought mine seemed high as I wrote it.).

Favour returned!!:ok:

Wiz, I meant to edit, not delete, my previous. I was trying to delete my comment directed at you, I must have confused you with someone else.

Hockeypilot, don't do anything stupid, you have a good job.

Hi Guys,

Could anyone tell me whether I can use my Boeing 737 Simulator time towards the 2500 jet hours required for EK. Everyone I've spoken to at my work has said yes, but I just wanted to make sure, with the guys who currently are with EK.

Many thanks.

Nope, EK does not take sim time into account. Neither for new joiners nor for internal upgrades.

Snorkel,

Thanks mate. That clears that up!

Si jet

hello
 

Can anyone please let me know where to find the "Prepare for your emirates interview book in usa?

What other books would someone rec besides ace the pilot interview book and the above book mentioned.

If anyone have gone thru recent interview, can you please let me know what is involved and how many days, sim profile etc.

thanks and have a great day everyone.

Hey, I think the book you are looking for is right here:

Amazon.com: Annals of Gullibility: Why We Get Duped and How to Avoid It (9780313362163): Stephen Greenspan: Books

(Ironically, this guy lost everything to Bernie Madoff the same time his book came out.)

EK Interview Prep: REQUIRED Reading
 

Make sure you read this before coming to the interview.

Amazon.com: Annals of Gullibility: Why We Get Duped and How to Avoid It (9780313362163): Stephen Greenspan: Books

It just might save your life.

Yes...........

Gents...I have an EK interview soon and was wondering if anyone had a copy of some aptitude software that is available online. It is called Cockpitweb Aptitude testing. I would be happy to purchase any copies that people have and no longer require. Not sure if it is of any use but worth a punt. :ok:

Yep.

In fact you're pretty much EXACTLEY what they are now looking for.