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Pin Head 19th Jan 2010 09:38

EK Interview Format
 
Just tried searching through all the clutter and can't seem to find anything regarding the above.

Does anyone have the link.

Pin:ok:

mensaboy 19th Jan 2010 14:31

I wouldn't worry so much about the Interview format. Generally speaking, they want to see if you are a decent person with good interpersonal skills. Naturally there is some emphasis put on 'knowledge' and handling skills as well.

Just be yourself! Work with your team-mates, don't be overly ''anything''..... in other words be tolerant, don't express viewpoints that might be considered a tad extreme and above all else, interact with everyone around you.

If you are a good guy, EK will take note. If you are a nutcase, generally speaking EK will take notice of that too because they are actually pretty good at recruiting here. I rarely fly with someone who I either detest or consider to be a 'whack-job', which is a credit to their recruitment procedures.

Granted, there have been a few short periods....... oh how do I say this........ when EK were hiring some less than desirable candidates. It was a function of the number of applicants versus the 'required' number of successful candidates. We are definitely entering into one of those phases again, so even if you are a bit of an odd-ball, you still stand a good chance of success, haha.

Your biggest question SHOULD be, ''Do I really want to go to Emirates''. If you have made up your mind, then best of luck to you and hope to see you on the line sometime.

Do-27 19th Jan 2010 14:55

Hi mensaboy!!

Nice post!!!:ok:..we will see inshala!!:)

Won Wing Lo 20th Jan 2010 11:27

Who Knows.
 
I have been looking around every where also, but couldn't find anything. Although I do know a guy who just went to the interview last week. He didn't do the whole thing. Long story, but he decided not go continue the interview after day 2 even though he was invited to day 3. He said day 1 is just the sim, visual circuit, then a low vis. v1 cut, fly dir. to a vor, then outbound on a radia with just the rmi. Then there were some group problems to solve, something about a murder mistery, and a few others like that. Day 2 was a tour of Dubai and the company accomidation, followed by more psyc. testing. Some sort of timed test involving 3 pictures, then you have to pick what you think the next picture will be. Sorry I don't have anything else on day 3 or 4, I wish I had that info also.

oz in dxb 20th Jan 2010 13:02

The best thing you could do is to come here not knowing what to expect.
That way you will be ready for the unexpected. Knowing too much could be a distraction for you.

Just be yourself and try the best you can do.

It worked for me many years ago!

Oz

surfnfly 21st Jan 2010 15:59

I just got an invite for interview. Applied about 2 months ago >8000tt, 320 type >2000 in type. I flew in Bahrain about 12 yrs ago so familiar with Middle East. After reading many posts on here not getting that warm fuzzy feeling to give up a seniority number at a US carrier and bring my family over there even with a potential 2nd furlough looming over my head.

missioncontrol 24th Jan 2010 17:56

Yes - you do have to pay for your own air-ticket to get to the interview.
Even on the Emirates network.

Hmmmm- that is a first.

donpizmeov 25th Jan 2010 04:00

Not for EK its not. All interviewees had to pay their way over up till a year or two ago when the free tickets were offered. So things have returned to the way they were. Don't expect anything for free from over here.


The Don

etops777 25th Jan 2010 05:18

FlyDubai still provides ticket to candidates.

SchoonerBoy 29th Jan 2010 21:38

EK Selection Looming
 
Anyone have any info about where the most relevant/similar Compass tests can be found to practice.

PM me if able.

Any other tips for the 4 day FO selection more than welcome!

Many thanks.

Do-27 1st Feb 2010 06:32

@ERKONOTEC,

I´M AFRAID I CAN NOT HELP U..... I HOPE TO BE CALLED SOON:)....BESIDE THE DECISION OF GOING OR NOT I WILL DO IT AFTER THE INTERVIEW.... I SENDED MY APPLYCATION 3 WEEKS AGO...NO NEWS YET:zzz::\;... DO U MIND TO TELL ME ABOUT UR EXPERIENCE?¿, JUST IN ORDER TO KNOW THE CHANCES I VE....

@ALL,

THE CONTRACT IS FOR 3 YEARS... CAN BE REDUCED IF I WANT TO TWO YEARS?¿... CAN BE CHANGE FOR PAYING ANY KIND OF BOND?.... IN THIS LAST CASE, HOW MUCH WILL BE THE BOND IF I AM RATED IN A320 AND START FLYING THE 330?¿....

THANKS FOR UR HELP!! FLY SAFE!!:ok:



Please use lower case, its regarded as shouting using upper case. Thanks. EGGW

harry the cod 3rd Feb 2010 17:52

Call me old fashioned, but why the text speak? Shouldn't you be on the CC forum?

Standards man....Standards!

Harry

nolimitholdem 3rd Feb 2010 21:36

My advice to anyone applying to Emirates - other than DON'T, are you crazy, kill yourself first, etc - because in spite of the warnings, there are always people who think they know best, and then generally end up posting several months after they join whining about how it isn't anything like the recruitment DVD....

LIE. Lie early, lie often, lie on your CV, lie in the interview. Feel absolutely no compulsion to be truthful, and stretch and distort facts whenever you feel it may be necessary to achieve your aims.

That way, you'll have a headstart on the company when you join, so that when the lies and utter bull**** start to flow fast and furious, you'll have a fighting chance of keeping up.

Practice makes perfect.

lcristler 5th Feb 2010 16:28

EK paying flights now!
 
We are heading over at the end of Feb and Emirates just emailed saying they would fly us over from an EK departure city...:ok:

Pin Head 5th Feb 2010 17:37

If you have a job, I wouldn t join.

lcristler 5th Feb 2010 21:05

Seriously how bad can it be? I have 5 friends there for average 2 years and they are pretty happy..The job situation for me here isnt exactly pretty!

lcristler 5th Feb 2010 21:09

Did you get hired at Emirates then? I remember seeing your post for interview gouge a few weeks back??

atpcliff 12th Feb 2010 11:42

Hi!

Just read on another thread that EK is again paying your way to DXB from an EK destination.

I know about 8 guys or so that fly (or worked at) EK. 1 guy hated it and quit/got fired in training. The other guys all range from decent-->a good job.

I think for Americans EK looks better than it does to Europeans.

cliff
NBO

flytheplane 13th Feb 2010 13:51

Future of EK flightcrew
 
Future of EK?
So EK is obviously looking for FO...I think it is a utopia to think that there will be a short of flightcrew time...think about...there are thousands finishing their ATPL from countries around the middle east where salaries are 1/100 of that paid @ EK,flying a few years and then moving on to get the chance.
I`m afraid that this is the most realistic scenario in the coming years.:(:(:(
What about the reputation??? Isn`t it very important for EK,I mean I remember a few months ago that nearly every newspaper in the world had reports about the MEL incident and some articles about EK pilot speaks out..etc....on the other hand there are advertisements that cost millions on CNN etc... Do they care to improve the situation? will it change again(for the better) of course....

old9 14th Feb 2010 19:28

Filing out Emirates Application question?
 
:rolleyes:I have a questions for any single guy filling out the Emirates Application.?

I have no immediate family to submit in the "family details" section of the application. The instructions tell me to select "not applicable," however this option is not available. Does anyone have that same issue, Please let me know how you guys proceed.
Thanks

X-BleedOpen 14th Feb 2010 20:47

Same for me... and it says that I have to fill it before submitting the application... any idea?

GAME OVER 14th Feb 2010 21:30


Same for me... and it says that I have to fill it before submitting the application... any idea?
What I would do, select any option and then type NOT APPLICABLE :rolleyes:

Any more ideas up there???

javierplasencia 15th Feb 2010 11:55

Emirates flight deck recruitment
 
Hi everyone, I have been called for recruitment procces next month and I would like to know something about interviews, tests,etc..
I would appreciate very much any help.
Thanks.

sheikmyarse 16th Feb 2010 11:58

The only help I can give you is in form of a suggestion:

IF YOU ARE NOT REALLY DESPERATE JUST STAY AWAY FROM THAT FUKUKED UP PLACE!!

dabssa 16th Feb 2010 14:35

Stay far far far far far far far away from this ****hole! Don't ruin your life like I ruined my. You have been warned.

apron 19th Feb 2010 22:21

Hi gents....what is the likelyhood of EK reducing the total time required for a FO's position?? It appears that there is a fairly heavy recruitment drive? If so do you reakon that 3000 hrs total of which 2850 hours on Jet (B737) would be of any interest?? Around a thousand short of total time required but around a thousand hours excess to the min Jet time in excess of 55k
Regards

alkaid34 23rd Feb 2010 19:36

Has anyone attended one of the Emirates Information Sessions?
February Road-show in UK and Ireland.
I have just received the flightglobal email about it.

unimuts 24th Feb 2010 16:04

Its was advertised in Flight global magazine since last thursday. Anyway you didnt miss much, mainly about how cool Dubai is to live and what a fabby airline it is.

But the bottom line is still the high requirements 4000 hrs min etc and they are not prepared to move on this.

The room was full of old mid to late 50 captains not interested in having to go into EK as an FO they where complaining about no DC.

Uni

alkaid34 24th Feb 2010 21:23

Thank-you for your reply,
I am an Air Force pilot with 5500 hrs and more than 2000 on Boeing.
There were rumours last year about not accepting pilots without civilian experience.
What is the situation now?

MosEisley 26th Feb 2010 07:57

Fastman, that's a very interesting first post. Perhaps you would like to enlighten us as to what's so bad about Korean (who seem to be poaching a fair share of EK drivers) and what's so great about EK (who are desperate for pilots). BTW it's almost summer in Dubai, that frying pan is about to turn into a fire.

atpcliff 26th Feb 2010 11:55

Hi!

I don't think EK every had any problems with mil pilots.

Maybe you were confusing it with the Japan 767 contracts? THey used to count mil time as 0. Now you just need 1000 civvy jet, and the rest of your mil time will count (fixed wing, anyway).

cliff
NBO

dynamite dean 27th Feb 2010 12:34

Well as I am 45 tonnes below their desired requirement thats me out of the runnings...phew that was close!:}

CAVnotOK 27th Feb 2010 13:27

True, at EY you will earn around 15-20% more than EK as an F/O.

But at EK you will probably get to work 20-30% harder.

At EY you will probably get you Command in around 1/2 the time, than the EK F/O

It's a no brainer really.

asiasky 27th Feb 2010 15:18

How much you need to survive in Dubai?
 
Hi folks,

I am thinking about to accept a job offer from EK. A buch of doubts storming in my brain, and not so much info, at least true info, to decide.
I have a question to guys living already in Dubai: how much you spend to live in Dubai? How much it cost the live, montlhly, for a family with two kids?

Straight in answers will be really appreciated.

Nice landings

sanddude 28th Feb 2010 07:38

Asiasky

In my days with overtime and bonus and right hand seat, I enjoyed a nice lifestyle. 2 kids on school where fee is covered by EK allowance, maid in the house. Thing is I didn,t save much. Didn,t matter because was early command those days.

You gotta understand that to my knowledge there are only 2 or 3 schools in Dubai that are covered by EK allowance! (you will understand they have a big waitinglist).The rest of the schools is big time money out of your own pocket. Not even to mention Schoolbus fee, 8000 Dhs per child.

No more overtime and bonus. Time to command now somewhere in the 7 to 10 years bracket. So al depend on your age, if you gotta start saving now for your pension, then I have to disapoint you. Its not gonna hapen.

Not much use to through around money figures, this is the all around story.

If you are still in your twenties with a young family then you will be fine, doesn,t really hurt to wait another 8 years or so to postpone savings and enjoy a decent live style. Otherwise I would have a hard think about it!
Good luck with your decision

GormanInkarnati 28th Feb 2010 07:54

With 3 kids and my FO salary it is tough:ugh: Will be even worse for me once they start deducting the money from my salary for exceeding the DEWA cap:{

Not saving anything at the moment, just treading water to stay afloat :{

Hopefully we can keep afloat for the next 4-5 years (:confused:) until the upgrade comes along.

asiasky 28th Feb 2010 09:04

Thank you Sand, appreciate your post and gave me a good picture of the history. If I did not missundertand you, when you mean no way to save money, you mean I can expect to spend the whole salary in Dxb, no way to send some money back home country to pay some bills, for instance.

I was totally wrong: I make some calculations and I figure out something like..... 2500 euros (3300 USD nowadays) to live there, of course, with EK school allowance and no paying bills for the house, power, water..... Is it the school the big hole? Then you even need a very good financial status to work for EK, isn't it?

Thanks again!

Fellowship of the drink 1st Mar 2010 04:19

Cost of Starting a new life in Dubai with the EK package in 2010


Initial / annual set up costs

Car - 10% deposit based on an average cost of Dhs 140,000 4x4 = Dhs 14,000
Furniture - Approx throughout the 1st year (assuming you already have some furniture) = Dhs 10,000
Garden - assuming you get a dead or sand garden = Dhs 4,000 (ranges from 2,000 - 16,000 depending on size)
Car insurance, approx for 1st timer in the UAE, 1st year = Dhs 5,000
Satellite TV, Internet, Gas setup, bottled water & other setup charges= Dhs 500
Kids extra curricular activity deposits/registrations for two activities (swimming, soccer ..etc) = Dhs 600
RTA registration for your car = Dhs 350
Rental car until you get your wheels = Dhs 4,500 (3 weeks @ Dhs 1500/week)
Pre paid SIM card registration x 2 = Dhs 330 (add Dhs 2000 deposit for post paid SIM cards)
Salik (toll) tag registration = Dhs 100
Maid Visa = Dhs 5080
School & PE Uniform for two kids = Dhs 1400
Total = 45960


Recurring monthly costs
Grocery - Dhs 4000
Petrol (assuming school run from the furtherst EK accomodation; DSO & Al Waha) - Dhs 450
School fees top up for two kids - Average Dhs 600 (based on Dhs 200 for non profit schools or 1000 for schools run for profit)
School bus for two kids - Dhs 700
Car loan - Dhs 1,800
2 Extra curricular activities for 2 kids - Dhs 550 (swimming Dhs 600 per term, football 450 per term, 3 terms a year)
Phone bill to call home - Dhs 750 (this is very conservative if you don't have Skype)
Internet - Dhs 250 (1 mbps line, unlimited)
Satellite or cable (one tier above the basic) - Dhs 350
Mobile phone charges for two - Dhs 150
Travel - Avergage of 8 ID90 Y class staff tickets per year (4 to the Europe & 4 to Far East) - Dhs 360
Gardener - Dhs 250
Maid - Dhs 1000 (averaged from Sri Lankan & Filipino)
Personal loan repayment (assuming you took a personal loan to pay for the set up cost of Dhs 45960 @ 5% over three years) = 1420

Total = Dhs 12,630 or USD 3450

Nursery fees for ONE child (not covered) - Dhs 1500 (Dhs 6000 per term)

Total for family with kids under school age = 14,130 or USD 3860

Remember that the figures are on the conservative side
Maid costs can replace cost of part time cleaners @ Dhs 30/hour for 4 hours a visit twice a week.

That is over half your salary and we have not considered the items below.

The following are not included and will increase your costs significantly:
A meal out with the wife and kids - Dhs 200 average for a family restaurant
A meal with the wife and a bottle of wine - Dhs 350
Movies - Dhs 120 per visit for 4 @ Dhs 30 per ticket
The odd coffee at Costa
Liqour license - Dhs 160
Liqour purchases - Beer x 24 cans Dhs 150-240, Wines Dhs 30-100 per bottle before 30% tax
Pharmacy medicine
Pressents for Christmas and birthdays
Birthday parties - Dhs 1000 - 3000 for 12 kids depending on extravagance
Christmas, Easter, Halloween and other festive expenses
Clothes
Concerts
Dubai Tennis Championship
Rugby 7's
Dubai World Cup
Overseas trip expenses (excluding staff travel tickets)
DEWA utility cap
E-Gate Card (immigration e-card)
UAE ID card Dhs 100 per year
Inflation of 10% per year based groceries only.

Fellowship of the drink 1st Mar 2010 18:30

wet vee two

You're either not living in Dubai or trying to wind things up. Judging by your join date, you're probably the latter.

Dhs 140,000 for a 4X4 is not extravagant. My car is certainly not the best in the street... and I only have ONE vehicle. You're such a cage rattler.

To the prospective new joiners, please do not assume it is cheap or easy to set up a home in Dubai. Everyone eventually gets settled but it will take some time to repay those personal loans (unless you come with lots of money). Almost every FO I spoke with agrees that the FO salary in EK is "just enough" to pay the bills and have a decent but not extravagant lifestyle. The real savings come when you upgrade.

Two factors have changed since T&C's at EK started to go downhill. Time to upgrade is no longer three years and inflation has eroded our purchasing power somewhat and will continue to do so without our annual step increases. Please take that into consideration with the possibility of living in long term temporary accomodation with your family, which is an entirely different can of worms discussed elsewhere in the forum. Villas are abundant in Dubai now but not many fit the asking price of EK.

I wish you all good luck and yes not everything here is 100% true but it is not 99% fabricated either. There are enough independant users posting stuff that your should definitely consider before making that commitment.

Snake man 2nd Mar 2010 08:56

FlyingOW,

Ideally, you would want to make sure that "one in the oven" is delivered before you get here, because EK won't pay for the delivery. Likewise any other "pre-existing medical condition" you or your family might have on arrival.
Oh, and for goodness sake, no more "baking" for the first 6 months after you get here, because they won't pay for that either!
Otherwise, add a rather big number to "Fellowship of the drink's" comprehensive list.

SM


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