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ZAOR 28th Jul 2019 19:27

Hello people....anyone recently joined EK and able to advise me the length of time from submitting application to starting with EK..just looking for approximate figure... and appreciate can vary...thanks in advance...(PM welcome).

roll_over 6th Aug 2019 14:27

I seem to remember someone wrote quite a long and detailed post regarding the fleet expansion or lack thereof and the time to command? Does anyone have it to hand, I can't seem to find it?


Thanks

HornetDrvr 16th Aug 2019 04:05

Yeah, don't go! I can't believe people are still considering working at that place. I was there precisely 11 months and I can tell you all the negative things you read on here about EK are, for once, spot on.

Cptgreen 19th Aug 2019 12:33

Been to Dubai theses days and they also spoke about the semmer villas which i got to see from the outside, they seem to be much better than the others mentioned, are they really for pilots and how possible to get one? Golden girl?
Thanks in advance.

ufon 26th Aug 2019 10:04

Hi guys, I am flying corporate (left seat, plane with 14 tons). Unfortunately I still do not meet the minimum requirements for Emirates and I will need another 1,5 years to fly the required hours. Do you know of somebody that got hired even with less hours than the required one? Should I give a try or is it a waste of time?
Many thanks in advance

Yorkshire_Pudding 26th Aug 2019 11:37


Originally Posted by ufon (Post 10554385)
Hi guys, I am flying corporate (left seat, plane with 14 tons). Unfortunately I still do not meet the minimum requirements for Emirates and I will need another 1,5 years to fly the required hours. Do you know of somebody that got hired even with less hours than the required one? Should I give a try or is it a waste of time?
Many thanks in advance

If you can, get to one of the recruitment roadshows held on a regular basis and speak to the recruitment team face to face.

ufon 26th Aug 2019 13:38


Originally Posted by Yorkshire_Pudding (Post 10554465)


If you can, get to one of the recruitment roadshows held on a regular basis and speak to the recruitment team face to face.

Thank you a lot

wingsover 26th Aug 2019 16:01

GCAA medical test
 
This includes eye test and x-rays. Can anybody tell me what kind of x-ray are these? I had my shoulder joint medical screws 2 yrs ago, there are 4 of them. Already simulator checked by a DGCA doctor and i passed with satisfactory. Is this would be a problem for EK? I need the details of what x-rays they perform and in which part of the body.

Thanks

airbuspilot944 27th Aug 2019 20:58


Originally Posted by wingsover (Post 10554638)
This includes eye test and x-rays. Can anybody tell me what kind of x-ray are these? I had my shoulder joint medical screws 2 yrs ago, there are 4 of them. Already simulator checked by a DGCA doctor and i passed with satisfactory. Is this would be a problem for EK? I need the details of what x-rays they perform and in which part of the body.

Thanks

I recently did my medical with them. The X ray consist of chest only. They make u stand and tell you to take a deep breath and hold it hardly takes a second or two.

T-6 28th Aug 2019 12:52

777 DEC
 
Any time soon ? Any idea ? Thx

Pif Paf 29th Aug 2019 05:42


Originally Posted by T-6 (Post 10556192)
Any time soon ? Any idea ? Thx

DEC unlikely, join the queue waiting for upgrades.
Plenty of blinkered people with selective hearing who joined knowing better than those of us here all still waiting.

those waiting for upgrade have “London Syndrome”

rmcdonal 30th Aug 2019 08:40

The x-ray is a chest x-ray only to check for TB.
You can pass the medical with bits of metal holding you together, it is not a limitation on the GCAA medical unless it effects your abilities. If you set of the metal detectors however you will need to get a note from the doc to show security.

Fuel-Off 30th Aug 2019 09:34


Well, highly possible. But you'd piss off a whole bunch of prop FO's who are waiting for a chance to upgrade on a widebody worldwide operation with less than 3000 total Jet time
Wouldn't be an EK thread without some bashing directed at the turboprop drivers :ugh:

If the pilots' seniority allows for upgrade, they meet the requirements for upgrade, have the correct attitude for upgrade and pass the upgrade, then they should be allowed to upgrade. It's all part of the same Check and Training system that ALL pilots are trained and examined by.

Fuel-Off
:ok:

The Dominican 30th Aug 2019 11:56


Originally Posted by Fuel-Off (Post 10557729)
Wouldn't be an EK thread without some bashing directed at the turboprop drivers :ugh:

Interesting enough, In all my years of airline training the folks that seem to do better at actually handling the A/C have been the Turboprop and Helicopter pilots. Go figure!

Now the question is, Is the Fast Track to Command offer just a hiring tool? Are there folks that come in with experience that have been upgraded in that 7 month timeline?

Just curious, no need for the EK hating brigade to get their panties in a bunch! I'm just trying to gauge the level of fairness in the process, for example, here in Japan everyone seems to think that it is a straight forward process and that once your seniority number hits, you will go through the process and with hard work and dedication you will make it, when in fact it is more about playing the culture game than anything else! Resulting in some individuals that make it to the left seat that shouldn't be anywhere near an airplane, little alone sitting on the left seat, and some very good operators that are given a very hard time at the "Whack a Mole" table just because of one rogue checker that hates his life, so he has to make sure you hate yours! That is simply the truth!

Same, same or is it a fair but difficult process?

Again, relax with the hate mail, not looking for a job, just curious!

Fuel-Off 30th Aug 2019 19:15

The first batch of TP drivers actually had far more experience (most had 7000hrs+ when they were hired, most were 5+ year captains, some were examiners from their previous airline) than the average Ryanair or easyJet pilot. Does that not count for something?

(FYI not one TP driver has failed an EK type rating)

Fuel-Off :ok:



fatbus 30th Aug 2019 23:47

FUel Off , where do you get your info from ? You're wrong !

The Dominican 31st Aug 2019 14:30

EK is not a legacy airline which allows low experienced FOs to sit in the right seat for 10-15 years and gain experience that way.

Where is that the case these days? Unless the airline is stagnant, that is simply not the case any longer! We want to think that this is the normal progression but the reality is that the PFT generation of 10 to 15 years ago are now the trainers at many airlines around the world, these are individuals that learned to fly in full glass aircrafts and at 350 hours sat on the right seat of a fully automated airliner and after 4 or 5 years are now on the left! What kind of experience do they have to teach?
Right now you have 5,000 total time captains flying wide bodies with 350 hour F/O's in many airlines around the world, so if that is your parameter not to fly on an airline, you are limited to airlines that are stagnant because not even at the majors in the US is like that anymore, How many TP pilots get hired at United or Delta every month?


The experience levels in the left seat are plummeting, so who are the next generation of even less experienced FOs going to learn from? The turbo prop driver?

Quite frankly, I'll take a TP driver as a trainer than a PFT wonder boy anyday!

prerequisite should at least be some sort of previous widebody, maybe international type ops of a similar nature.

Is that the case at any of the ACMI operators? Or mainline US carriers? You can't possibly tell me that you can call the training you get at Delta or United as "Comprehensive"

I know many pilots that their first international experience (outside of Mexico or Canada) have been on the right seat of a 767 after 6 weeks of training including OJT...

We might make an argument that maybe this is not ideal a d I tend to agree, but EK is far from being unique on that end.

aviation_enthus 31st Aug 2019 20:29


Originally Posted by directimped (Post 10558378)
You are missing the point. EK is not a legacy airline which allows low experienced FOs to sit in the right seat for 10-15 years and gain experience that way. Instead you drag yourself from one duty to the next then hope to upgrade after 3 to 5 years. The experience levels in the left seat are plummeting, so who are the next generation of even less experienced FOs going to learn from? The turbo prop driver?

Total hours don't mean anything, but for an operation like EK , prerequisite should at least be some sort of previous widebody, maybe international type ops of a similar nature. Unless of course there was a robust training programme in place, which there isn't. I'm not at EK anymore, so I don't care, but I certainly won't be putting myself or my family on EK again after what I have seen at that place :yuk:

No it’s you who is missing the point. The experience levels of new hires at EK was lowered years ago when the changed it to allow CRJ/ERJ drivers, then Ryanair/Easyjet f/o’s with 2500 hours. If you think T/P drivers are the ‘tip of the iceberg’ with lowering experience levels, that ship sailed long ago!

As was stated to you, doesn’t having former command/Check pilot/training experience mean anything? Yes it’s not about total hours, but if someone is capable of that level in a reasonable airline, I’ll happily sit next to them without ‘widebody international’ experience.

box 1st Sep 2019 17:36


Originally Posted by aviation_enthus (Post 10558859)


No it’s you who is missing the point. The experience levels of new hires at EK was lowered years ago when the changed it to allow CRJ/ERJ drivers, then Ryanair/Easyjet f/o’s with 2500 hours. If you think T/P drivers are the ‘tip of the iceberg’ with lowering experience levels, that ship sailed long ago!

As was stated to you, doesn’t having former command/Check pilot/training experience mean anything? Yes it’s not about total hours, but if someone is capable of that level in a reasonable airline, I’ll happily sit next to them without ‘widebody international’ experience.

Pathetic comment. 737/A320/CRJ/ERJ/TP FOs (or CAs) are not sufficiently qualified to fly just another airplane?

Pif Paf 2nd Sep 2019 06:28


Originally Posted by box (Post 10559374)


Pathetic comment. 737/A320/CRJ/ERJ/TP FOs (or CAs) are not sufficiently qualified to fly just another airplane?

i think t’s more about the attitude they bring!

If they’re willing to learn then great, but too many think they know it all and don’t listen. They forget worldwide flying is very different to doing small hops around whichever region they come from.

I learnt from very experienced guys when I was new to commercial flying. But these days at EK there is a distinct lack of experience in the LHS, add that to new guys who think they know it all,= potential problem.

yes they might be able to fly the aircraft well but there’s more to it than that!.....
just my perspective!..

PS why people are still joining perplexes me!


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