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Macarto 22nd May 2019 02:33

Looking to find out when accommodation allowance will be reinstated into the contracts and what is the minimum number of consecutive off days on an average month?

Fuel-Off 22nd May 2019 04:03

Accommodation allowance won't be reinstated in the near or mid term (don't think ever really...). So long as there are vacancies in company accommodation pilots will be assigned to those. Max consecutive days off in a row are 5 provided you are awarded that particular bid. Most guys bid for 5 days off at the end of the month, then 5 days off at the beginning of the next month to get a 10 day weekend. But the boss says when it comes to bidding the company requirements come first. Read into that as you will.

Fuel-Off :ok:

BigGeordie 22nd May 2019 09:17

Macarto, if you are thinking of renting a crash pad in Dubai and commuting then forget it. The company will do everything it can to stop you and the rosters make it impossible.

Pif Paf 23rd May 2019 10:37

Commuting - haha
Accommodation allowance - haha
5 days off at the end of the month with 5 days off at the beginning of the following month, 10 days - haha
getting the flights you bid for - haha
support from management - haha
quick command - haha

you want any of the above - haha

Still think EK is wonderful - haha, you’re just the type they’re looking for!!!!

PPRuNeUser0178 25th May 2019 08:45

Hey, does anyone have any good links for the personalty tests, did the ones of latest pilot jobs plenty with no issues, been out for selection passed everything apart from this which I didn’t fail, but gave an “invalid” result, twice. I answered honestly and didn’t dwell on anything, didn’t over think it and didnt give answers that I thought they would want to hear so am confused. They want me to come back in 12 weeks to do only that bit again, so I’d like to practice more?

av8tordude 29th May 2019 13:21

Housing allowance
 
My wife is a EK cabin crew and she receives housing allowance. On the EK website, it states "Available for local recruits currently in privately purchased or rental accommodation or employees who purchase property in Dubai."

A couple of questions...
1. Is local recruit define as a UAE National or candidates residing in UAE?
2. My wife works as a Cabin Crew and she receives housing allowance, If I join, how is it determine who receives housing allowance (Pilot or Cabin Crew)? I know we both will not receive housing allowance.

thank you for reply.

PS...if you like to respond, please stay on the subject. Thank you kindly

dvhelicopters 29th May 2019 20:11


Originally Posted by av8tordude (Post 10481986)
My wife is a EK cabin crew and she receives housing allowance. On the EK website, it states "Available for local recruits currently in privately purchased or rental accommodation or employees who purchase property in Dubai."

A couple of questions...
1. Is local recruit define as a UAE National or candidates residing in UAE?
2. My wife works as a Cabin Crew and she receives housing allowance, If I join, how is it determine who receives housing allowance (Pilot or Cabin Crew)? I know we both will not receive housing allowance.

thank you for reply.

PS...if you like to respond, please stay on the subject. Thank you kindly

I was recently in Dubai for an assessment since my wife is employed with EK as a cabin crew. You are only entitled to one housing allowance per family, whichever is the highest. I hope this answer your question.

Thegreenmachine 29th May 2019 20:26


Originally Posted by ezydriver (Post 10479175)
Hey, does anyone have any good links for the personalty tests, did the ones of latest pilot jobs plenty with no issues, been out for selection passed everything apart from this which I didn’t fail, but gave an “invalid” result, twice. I answered honestly and didn’t dwell on anything, didn’t over think it and didnt give answers that I thought they would want to hear so am confused. They want me to come back in 12 weeks to do only that bit again, so I’d like to practice more?

Sorry not my fight but couldn't resist. That's probably where you went wrong...

felixthecat 30th May 2019 10:43

The housing allowance is only available now to new joiners if you buy, ie as a new joiner you will not get an allowance to rent. If your wife has the allowance and she was under the terms where she could rent then I’m sure that will be all you will get, unless you buy.

A local is a UAE national.

UB6IB9 26th Jun 2019 10:43

Gents,

Have any Boeing guys recently joined accelerated command on the 380? They don't specifically list Airbus time as a requirement. Also is the assessment somewhat different; addition of a LOFT ect?

PM's are welcome.
Best of luck to all.
Thanks for your time.

Python27 26th Jun 2019 12:08


Originally Posted by UB6IB9 (Post 10503224)
Gents,

Have any Boeing guys recently joined accelerated command on the 380? They don't specifically list Airbus time as a requirement. Also is the assessment somewhat different; addition of a LOFT ect?

PM's are welcome.
Best of luck to all.
Thanks for your time.

Fool's gold; another beduine trick to attract unaware Western people for the sand pit...

HOOROO 28th Jun 2019 07:43

Provident Scheme and End of Service Benefit
 
Hi Guys and Girls,

I’ve read through the thread and please excuse my question for being glaringly obvious if that is the case but a lot of people say that you can’t save a lot on the salary whilst living in Dubai due to expenses and inflation etc. I’m wondering what the point of saving is anyway when you have the provident scheme or end of service benefit pay out when you leave? If someone has done in the vicinity of 10 years service then could they expect a substantial payout? Or even 5 years as soon as the bond is up?
Am I missing something??
Cheers

aviation_enthus 28th Jun 2019 16:32


Originally Posted by HOOROO (Post 10504553)
Hi Guys and Girls,

I’ve read through the thread and please excuse my question for being glaringly obvious if that is the case but a lot of people say that you can’t save a lot on the salary whilst living in Dubai due to expenses and inflation etc. I’m wondering what the point of saving is anyway when you have the provident scheme or end of service benefit pay out when you leave? If someone has done in the vicinity of 10 years service then could they expect a substantial payout? Or even 5 years as soon as the bond is up?
Am I missing something??
Cheers

Long story short, yes you could just walk away with the Provident Fund payout and be happy with that.

BUT I think it’s intention is to cover your lack of pension/401K/superannuation after spending so long working at EK. Personally ours will just be going into superannuation back in Aus to cover the lack of contributions from working overseas.

As as for the ‘not being able to save’ comment. Another poster on this thread summed it up better than I could;

“if you can save money in your current job/salary, you’ll be able to save on an EK f/o salary”

On the other side, if you find yourself unable to save something, no matter how small, on your current salary you’ll probably spend everything here. Make no mistake, Dubai is expensive. Once you fall into the trap of eating out a few times, buying a fancy car on finance, getting a maid, sending your kids to a school that charges more than the Education Allowance etc, you WILL have nothing left at the end of the month.

Personally we are able to stick to a budget, have kids at a good school that fits in the allowance, no maid, one car and we save a respectable amount every month. But we came here with a goal to pay down our mortgage as much as possible before we leave Everyone has different goals.

AbSurD 28th Jun 2019 18:34

Hi, everyone! Couldn't find it here, but really in need - where can i find "online application number" which starts from 100? THX!!!

HOOROO 28th Jun 2019 22:58


Originally Posted by aviation_enthus (Post 10504898)


Long story short, yes you could just walk away with the Provident Fund payout and be happy with that.

BUT I think it’s intention is to cover your lack of pension/401K/superannuation after spending so long working at EK. Personally ours will just be going into superannuation back in Aus to cover the lack of contributions from working overseas.

As as for the ‘not being able to save’ comment. Another poster on this thread summed it up better than I could;

“if you can save money in your current job/salary, you’ll be able to save on an EK f/o salary”

On the other side, if you find yourself unable to save something, no matter how small, on your current salary you’ll probably spend everything here. Make no mistake, Dubai is expensive. Once you fall into the trap of eating out a few times, buying a fancy car on finance, getting a maid, sending your kids to a school that charges more than the Education Allowance etc, you WILL have nothing left at the end of the month.

Personally we are able to stick to a budget, have kids at a good school that fits in the allowance, no maid, one car and we save a respectable amount every month. But we came here with a goal to pay down our mortgage as much as possible before we leave Everyone has different goals.

Thank you so much for your reply, it helped a lot. We are thinking of taking the plunge with that exact goal in mind of trying to get ahead with mortgage etc. This thread makes for very interesting reading. I can honestly attest that new shiny widebody jet syndrome is a thing.

aaa333 29th Jun 2019 05:24

Hi guys what would an FO salary be after 5 years assuming no command yet and how much would the provident fund payout be at that stage? I read somewhere about completing 7 years at Ek to be eligible for the pension (correct me if I’m wrong), what would the value of that be?

Thanks!

aviation_enthus 29th Jun 2019 13:20


Originally Posted by HOOROO (Post 10505066)


Thank you so much for your reply, it helped a lot. We are thinking of taking the plunge with that exact goal in mind of trying to get ahead with mortgage etc. This thread makes for very interesting reading. I can honestly attest that new shiny widebody jet syndrome is a thing.

HOOROO, you’re welcome mate!

Just a word of caution:

I too had a reasonable desire to fly all over the world in a big jet. It was a ‘scratch I had to itch’. 😂
Emirates will definitely help you achieve that! However, be aware that everyone has to go home eventually (I’m guessing AUS/NZ for you). That can be for various reasons completely seperate from flying, wife, family etc. So the eternal question you will always have to answer is what will you do when you leave?

Are you happy to go home and rejoin Jetstar/Virgin/Tiger as an f/o and if you’re in your late 40’s by then, potentially sitting in the RHS for the rest of your career?

Basically the decision to head overseas takes you out of the seniority system back home. So yes you’ll make some money, see the world and hopefully enjoy it, but when you go back.... it’ll be back to the bottom of the pile. Personally I can live with that, but some people can’t. Then they end up feeling stuck at EK and come to hate the place.

HOOROO 5th Jul 2019 23:00


Originally Posted by aviation_enthus (Post 10505467)


HOOROO, you’re welcome mate!

Just a word of caution:

I too had a reasonable desire to fly all over the world in a big jet. It was a ‘scratch I had to itch’. 😂
Emirates will definitely help you achieve that! However, be aware that everyone has to go home eventually (I’m guessing AUS/NZ for you). That can be for various reasons completely seperate from flying, wife, family etc. So the eternal question you will always have to answer is what will you do when you leave?

Are you happy to go home and rejoin Jetstar/Virgin/Tiger as an f/o and if you’re in your late 40’s by then, potentially sitting in the RHS for the rest of your career?

Basically the decision to head overseas takes you out of the seniority system back home. So yes you’ll make some money, see the world and hopefully enjoy it, but when you go back.... it’ll be back to the bottom of the pile. Personally I can live with that, but some people can’t. Then they end up feeling stuck at EK and come to hate the place.

Aviation_enthus I asked in another thread but no answer so far. With a young family, do you live in company accomodation? Even if you don’t, do you know what site is better? From what I can tell, we would be put in either Meydan Heights or Meydan South. One looks quite dated and the other quite new. Any info or opinions would be greatly appreciated.
Cheers

aviation_enthus 5th Jul 2019 23:17


Originally Posted by HOOROO (Post 10510818)


Aviation_enthus I asked in another thread but no answer so far. With a young family, do you live in company accomodation? Even if you don’t, do you know what site is better? From what I can tell, we would be put in either Meydan Heights or Meydan South. One looks quite dated and the other quite new. Any info or opinions would be greatly appreciated.
Cheers

Yes with kids it’s likely you’ll be put in Meydan South or Heights. I know of some married f/o’s with no kids that have also managed to get a villa.

Both places have advantages and disadvantages. Heights is older but has a pool/gym/shops and reasonable park with a playground and grass. South has more parks and playgrounds but less greenery. You’ll find the South villas are a bit bigger and tend to have a bit more outdoor space as well. You can also get one with a park straight out the back door. The Heights villas only get a small courtyard front and back. There is also a school right next to South but Heights has a school only 5-10 min drive away anyway.

South does have a community centre BUT I’ll just say that it’s finished but still requires a few ‘tweaks’ before it’s open properly.

If you don’t get the complex want, I’d definitely ask if you can move. Both complexes have plenty of empty villas and current staff have moved both within and between the different complexes.

HOOROO 7th Jul 2019 02:00

Thanks again for the info, much appreciated. Cheers


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