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Originally Posted by LuckyB_89
(Post 10425566)
Made my assessment in january, waited for 1 month and unfortunately got a NO and a 24 months minimum to reapply. Got successful on assessement and medical exam approved. I have no idea why I did not get the job offer, and even if I had that wouldn't change the result.
As they say, passing the selection proccess does not guarantee a job offer. It all depends on higher management decisions. I hope you get a better outcome! Good luck. |
Originally Posted by Z786
(Post 10426457)
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Supply and demand for one thing . Also they like to spread out from individual regions if possible. |
Originally Posted by AIMINGHIGH123
(Post 10425588)
I think you and many need to look around and tell me where is getting better? Maybe RYR from euro land. BA? Erm well they are now charging low hour pilots £18k for TR plus reduced salary to start with. Unheard of. 24 pay scale that is now 34 point pay scale. Time down route to be reduced to 24hrs soon even on ULH. First 7 years are horrible. Possibly the US aviation sector is the only place that has improved T&Cs Out of euro land from what I know AF is the best gig but obviously fluent in french a must. Even our regional gig is completely on its knees. Ask the long term guys/gals and they all say it’s a lot worse now with pay that hasn’t kept up. 80-90 hr months when average flying hours on a duty 4-5hrs. Duty hours a month 170-200? 12 hrs min rest that they reduce by putting you in a hotel at home base. Do the maths on that lot. From an economy and economic point of view Dubai is very small and imports a lot. Naturally goods from far flung places would cost more. Storing goods is expensive because it’s 5000 degrees outside and doesn’t have a massive demand (population being quite small). It’s like people who go on holiday go and buy a Cadbury’s chocolate bar and complain because it’s double the price. Of course it is. They don’t have the distribution structures in place. Dubai is the same. What does it have? Oil, gas, metal exports? Not much else. From a UK perspective we have a larger population, distribution facilities, big companies etc so cost to buy things will naturally be less. However... We pay high tax. How much of which helps us out? Depends what situation you are in. £100k salary in UK land means take home of £5.5k 480kAED 40kAED which would be £8k month. For UK people my council tax is going up 8% this year. Last year 6%. Recession is due soon so everyone and everything is preparing. I wouldn’t say it’s a Dubai or EK thing. My mate had a pay cut he is very high up at a UK based company but covers the UAE group so lives in Dubai. From my point of view financially even if I spent my whole salary every month it wouldn’t matter because I would be renting my property in the UK. People coming from other places would be better places to do the same. My mortgage would be more than covered and cleared in 10 years if we stayed. Going EK without a back up plan is probably unwise I would say it’s unwise in aviation anyway. An FO has lost his medical recently only been flying 2 years. The LOL is not that much and won’t help for long. Locals being protected is nothing new to just Dubai this happens in many many many countries some of which are in euro land. People are are going to read this and some will be like yeah yeah come and experience it. I have friends who have lived in Dubai, AD, Qatar for 10 years plus one guy 30 years They love it but said it’s not as good as it used to be. I know 5 people personally who lasted 1 year and couldn’t wait to leave. I would say this. All the ones who wanted to leave had never lived in a large city. I answered the questions of are you read for Dubai and I got mostly Bs a few As and Cs. Most of the questions to me just seemed like someone who has never lived in a large city. Driving wise roads in london are the same you get used to it. I do have to adjust when I drive outside of London. Camping under the stars would be my worst nightmare for a trip away. I spent enough camping when I was younger. Anyway people will rip into this but as has been said some people will never be happy. On the topic of the cost of living here, it should theoretically be cheaper to buy many items that you see in the malls in Dubai than in Europe (for example). Dubai is closer to many of the manufacturing powerhouses in Asia and the city is just a stone's throw away from Jebel Ali port, which is where I suspect many goods that are for sale, first reach the UAE shores. The costs involved in transporting to the final point of sale would be cheaper as well, since labour costs are cheaper and to top it all off, sales tax is relatively low. The problem is that many of the retail outlets in the malls are not operated directly by the brand itself but by a locally owned franchisee, who charge ridiculous markups for products. On the other hand, if I use Apple as an example, they run independently in the UAE as they are a Free Zone company and prices in the Apple Stores here reflect that. On the seperate topic of getting rejected after passing the assessment and getting to the medical, I had a friend who experienced this a few years ago. My understanding is that there is a review process for all applicants after the election process has been completed and if there is something on your file that someone dislikes, then one can be told 'thanks but no thanks'. You will most likely never get told why this has happened. My friend wasn't told but I suspect it was his sim ride that tripped him up in the end after he described it to me, despite being told on the day that he had passed it. |
It doesn’t matter what the economic reasons are for the prices being higher, it matters that they are and that salaries are not keeping up. The salary is still OK, but just that....OK. Would I move from the West now to EK? Probably not, would I move back to Europe now? Probably not, however the s@@t bucket is filling very rapidly. Discounts for coffee and the like are great, but the costs still remain far higher than many western cities. Would anyone in there right mind move here because they get discounted coffee? Unfortunately the majority of positive comments here seem to come from non EK pilots and the majority of negative some from EK pilots. Choose who you decide to believe. Contributors to these threads are not always who they seem ...... |
Where are you coming from guys !!
Are London , paris , new york ...etc , cheaper than dubai ?!!! I don't think so , then do you get back home same benefits you get with EK ! ( tax free Salary , accomodation , schooling , electricity and water paid ! ) Be honest guys be honest , you may dont like EK but just be honest and stop saying stupid things and arguments ! |
Originally Posted by felixthecat
(Post 10427584)
It doesn’t matter what the economic reasons are for the prices being higher, it matters that they are and that salaries are not keeping up. The salary is still OK, but just that....OK. Would I move from the West now to EK? Probably not, would I move back to Europe now? Probably not, however the s@@t bucket is filling very rapidly. Discounts for coffee and the like are great, but the costs still remain far higher than many western cities. Would anyone in there right mind move here because they get discounted coffee? Unfortunately the majority of positive comments here seem to come from non EK pilots and the majority of negative some from EK pilots. Choose who you decide to believe. Contributors to these threads are not always who they seem ...... ItsI like i raised my hand to show you the moon but you're looking at my finger instead of moon ;) |
Originally Posted by Dz_flyer
(Post 10427964)
Where are you coming from guys !!
Are London , paris , new york ...etc , cheaper than dubai ?!!! I don't think so , then do you get back home same benefits you get with EK ! ( tax free Salary , accomodation , schooling , electricity and water paid ! ) Be honest guys be honest , you may dont like EK but just be honest and stop saying stupid things and arguments ! As for schooling the allowance does not give free schooling, it gives an allowance towards schooling, a subtitle difference. Many end up paying not insignificant top up from their own pockets for the schooling that in some cases they can get free back home. This is also number of children dependent and age of children dependent, ie very young children are not entitled to allowance for schooling. Bare in mind that the cost of schooling is the second highest in the world behind Hong Kong. As for a tax free salary, yes ‘technically’ you are correct however the 5% VAT introduction is a tax and the prices here no matter how you try to sugar coat them are on a par with London and New York. $5 for a coffee, $15 for a beer are just examples and that’s before you get into the food costs. At the end of the day DZ it all depends where you are coming from. From Africa and other 3rd world counties it will seem a much more attractive option than it does to a western expat. |
Originally Posted by Dz_flyer
(Post 10427967)
Moving here because they get discounted coffee?!!
ItsI like i raised my hand to show you the moon but you're looking at my finger instead of moon ;) Perhaps pointing at the moon is to distract from the pickpocket behind. |
In reality you’ll not get the time off to enjoy your discounts, your rosters will not reflect anything you bid for, you’ll get leave when you don’t want it, but hey it’s nirvans according to many hete who know no better!! Now people are eaving due to the rosters! they say lots joining but in reality maybe only 30 per month get to the medical stage, how many lass to the line who knows , however the total number of pilots have not increased in 3 years! |
Completely new to this forum, been guesting it for a while now and decided it was time to join. I’m actually hoping to join Emirates soon, and judging from this forums last many pages I’m expecting quite a lot of “use the search function” and comments on why not to join. Now, as mentioned I hope to join soon and in that connection, does anyone have any updated info about the recruitment process, is it ongoing and will it stay ongoing throughout the year? How long does it take if successful to join? What can you expect from interviews and how should I/did you prepare? Does anyone know if they’ve updated the recruitment process over time or is the info on the older pages still valid? Hope you’ll take your time to answer me, been dreaming of Emirates for quite a few years now. |
Well many conflicting rumors. The company itself says the are hiring big time on the other hand i’ve heard at least about two guys who were placed into some kind of pre-screening holding pool because they were flying turboprops. Joining time should be quite long, some successful guys from November still without joining dates where full simulator capacity could be the reason. For preparation as for other airlines Latest Pilot Jobs should do it... |
Bumpy
What's your theory about the hiring situation, do you think it’s the sim capacity or? And thank you for your great answers :-) |
I´ve been placed in a pre-screening holding pool, and been told I need 1500 + hrs on the A320 (I have 1100 on the A320 and 5500 hrs total time) before they will invite me for the assessment.
I have written to them asking for clarification because these are new requirements, but haven´t really gotten an answer.... Seems like they have a restriction on training slots or something, or a lot of people coming through. |
Any holding pool is axactly that just a pool. If at anytime a more experienced pilot applies and passes the interview he will be hire ahead of a less experienced pilot. No seniority in the pool. TP pilots were only going on the 777. I believe the 777 fleet is actually decreasing now . 380 slight increase. 777X is a fleet replacement. 330/350 will see a slight increase of overall Airbus pilots. |
Originally Posted by VarigMD11
(Post 10435502)
I´ve been placed in a pre-screening holding pool, and been told I need 1500 + hrs on the A320 (I have 1100 on the A320 and 5500 hrs total time) before they will invite me for the assessment.
I have written to them asking for clarification because these are new requirements, but haven´t really gotten an answer.... Seems like they have a restriction on training slots or something, or a lot of people coming through. |
Good luck on the interview!
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Pre selection in Amsterdam
Hello everybody
Anyone going to pre selection in Amsterdam this month? Any information would be much appreciated. Thanks |
It's a large town in the Netherlands. Use to be called Holland. Lots of cheese and flowers .People can be very tall.
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Originally Posted by AIMINGHIGH123
(Post 10442326)
lol Forgot to mention red light area. €50 for 15 mins more for weird stuff. |
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