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A320avi8tor 14th Nov 2016 21:44

Hi everyone,

I applied to EK last week,got an E-mail today saying that I have to do digital interview.

Any advises or feedback before I start it ?

Thank you in advance !

Mizar 15th Nov 2016 09:26

Well just found this on Emirates group careers webpage, among the faq's

Whilst past experience and candidate’s preference is taken into account, this will not always determine the fleet type as allocation is based solely on Emirates’ operational requirements.

aus_aviatior 17th Nov 2016 10:45

Anyone heard if anyone's been getting into EK, EY or QR with less than the minimums?
I'm hearing rumours of people getting in absurdly below...

Mizar 9th Dec 2016 15:47

Anybody applied recently...??

nolimitholdem 10th Dec 2016 06:25

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NISbus 28th Dec 2016 11:37

777 roster sample
 
Would anybody kindly PM me a sample of their 777 roster.
That's highly appreciated

natops 28th Dec 2016 14:08

Pick random 8 days outoff the month. Not more than 2 in a row. Those are yr days off.
The rest you work...

thatwasclose 28th Dec 2016 16:50

What he said

777boyindubai 28th Dec 2016 17:25

Nisbus. No one will send you a roster in case you publish or share it and then they will be sacked. But the rosters are EXACTLY as described. The last two posters sum it up beautifully. Happy New Year

BigGeordie 28th Dec 2016 17:40

Not forgetting that you can't have any extra days off before or after leave. Expect to get back from a trip the day before your leave starts (possibly late at night) and expect only one day off after leave.

falconeasydriver 28th Dec 2016 21:24

Over a year since my escape, but the rosters are as previously discussed. If your lucky you'll get 9 days off on the 777, and maybe even see daylight at some point.

White Knight 29th Dec 2016 04:00


Originally Posted by 777boyindubai
then they will be sacked

If you say so:rolleyes::ugh:

Blue126 30th Dec 2016 01:42

Hi there,
Im being flown over to Dubai for the 4 days of testing in February.
I was excited before I started reading these posts. Now I'm a bit concerned at having no life and being uphappy for 5 years.
I heard that Emirates pilots work hard, but I heard from someone, and so I want to confirm it on here, that they are trying to change that.
I was told that they are hiring like crazy at the moment because they intend to alliviate these awful rosters. Is there any truth to that?

donpizmeov 30th Dec 2016 04:42

Blue in 2006 a fella called TCAS told us that rosters and leave would improve by the end of the year. At the beginning of this year a fella called JA said leave and rosters would be fixed by summer. We are uncertain by which summer he meant. But I hope you see a common theme.

natops 30th Dec 2016 09:29

Blue
 
They're hiring like crazy to expand again, not to improve the rosters. At least thats my idea. Hopefully its what you say....

During the selection they will paint a beautiful picture. Think again before you sign anything.. Your choice of course.

N.

Monarch Man 30th Dec 2016 16:40

Blue, in a recent pilots meeting there was an acknowledgment of sorts that the exodus of pilots from EK is indeed happening, when pressed our chief guinness taster stated the case and then explained that "experts" were being consulted. On receipt of this information one individual with clearly more common sense than most..or perhaps a more finely tuned BS filter based the question, "why get experts, when you could just ask the pilots?" This rather sensible question inspired a good degree of vitriol from said guinness taster and confirmed that nothing is going to change fro the better...EVER.....nada..........zilch.


Up to you.

sonoma 30th Dec 2016 17:05

Blue. Good luck in whatever you decide. It really is no one's business what you do when you decide. We have all of us different reasons for doing anything in life.
There has been a shortage of pilots for a long time. Airlines, where possible, don't want enough pilots. My comment is based on what I was told by a former colleague who is still there. He was told by a former DCP that policy was to be short of pilots. He attended a wash up 4 years ago, where JA stated it would get worse (guys were very upset then) before it would get better, and when it got better, it would be as bad as it was then. In the time intervening, they actually stopped hiring for a while.
You should be able to make your own judgement based on knowledge available to you on the company media. The bond now is 5 years instead of 3. The recruitment video emphasises lifestyle instead of career - ? You can ask to speak with people, and have your questions prepared, rather than their questions answered.
Have you heard of the term, 'island fever'. Once you're on the island, and you find you don't like it. How do you get out? I'm not suggesting that you'll be happy or sad there. However, once there!!

aussiefarmer 31st Dec 2016 05:26

I'd be very careful when making the decision to join EK at the moment. As much as I badly want people to join to improve my 90-100hrs rosters there are several factors that would make me think hard about signing with EK;

- EK is on the verge of losing money at the moment - as per the half year results
- EK is inmerse in a transformation process to get back (or close) to its past profitability, this is translating at the moment in thousands of job losses and benefits reductions - not affecting pilots directly at the moment but, who knows?
- Age restrictions for command upgrades and massive slowdown in expansion mean that if you are in your mid twenties (and probably regardless of your age) your upgrade will take 10-13 years, and remember... very hard to get another decent job without current PIC hours

My advice would be to wait until dust settles. Maybe by the end of 2017 things look clearer. Flight Ops seems to be putting a bit more effort nowadays to improve things for pilots too - let's see if there are any positive developments in the following months.

jack schidt 31st Dec 2016 10:03

EK are hiring, not specifically because they are expanding, not to replace retirees, it is clearly to replace the large amount of pilots that are leaving the desert. Why would they have offered the BIG shiny jets to our propeller friends if it wasn't out of the necessity to get pilots in seats, no matter what the experience of those who join.

The bond went from 3 years to 5 years as new hires were coming and leaving sooner than expected. The bond is a pair of financial handcuffs to those who join and who will undoubtedly be out of pocket already with the move to the desert.

When you come with a family, the children will make friends, as will your wife and you will become miserable with many hours on the back of the clock turnarounds. When you decide the job is not for you, the heartache you will again cause your family by moving from one country to another will strain family relationships further.

Car loans gone? Living out allowance gone? Reduced hotel allowances. Hours increased. Lack of leave. 50C weather daily during the summer. Lack of school places. Forced staff economy travel with young children. Unhappy workforce. Huge delays to commands and many many more issues.

The consideration to come to the desert just now should not even be thought of as a consideration, more as a desperation. There are many who still come and pretty quickly the honeymoon is over and the BIG jet doesn't seem so shiny when it's viewed mainly at night.

Never come to EK and say you are unhappy. I am sure almost every new hire reads these pages and those who have been in the company a while are fed up with the moaning and will just reply with the likes of, "you were warned".

Happy 2017 fellow aviators.

J

Talparc 31st Dec 2016 17:03

Blue126
Guess you got framed by the recruitment department, it is not too late to say no.
Just read along here, everything is written here!
Good luck!

NISbus 1st Jan 2017 04:26

777boyindubai
I Didn't think of it that way! but it's alright, what you say makes sense.

Happy 2017 to you all.

intheblue 1st Jan 2017 10:37

had the offer to join ek sept 2015 from an eastern lcc, was not sure of the move and dug in deep, instead did my upgrade on the 320 and happily flying lhs from home to europe and back home. don't regret a thing, though I still have my mind set on long haul and multicultural experience. Hoping to start a family that keeps me around (in my late twenties) meanwhile building pic hours on airbus that really open doors and DEC opportunities look pretty tempting from now on.
Just for you guys to have a look at the other half of the glass. :cool:
Happy landings and happy new year!

AEGOR 1st Jan 2017 14:47

Have to join EK very soon. Now feel absolutely confused with all the things written here... Enthusiasm is diminishing...
Not afraid of working hard. Flying is a hard work. Training is a hard work..
But feel its too risky to get myself and my big family into that trap in case benefits are being cut. Also, if the airline does not grow anymore, what are the chances for career growth?

sluggums 2nd Jan 2017 07:40

For goodness sake AEGOR! Enthusiasm is diminishing... Where have you been for the last 10 years, cos it's been this way at EK for at least that long.

donpizmeov 2nd Jan 2017 11:29

I can wait...wow so exciting...

Bell Man 28th Jan 2017 05:08

What's the cut off age for DE FOs? Can't seem to find anything on the EK website.

With regards to having turbo prop time on a/c below 20 tonne and no jet time, I'm about 300 hours short of the required 3000 hours although most of my heavy turbo prop time has been PIC, I have over 10k TT most of which is PIC and turbine. Are they strict on these minimums, or do they allow for exceptions based on other experience?

atpcliff 28th Jan 2017 05:54

I don't think they publish their age maximums. They change their requirements quite often, and have unpublished requirements. Apply and find out.

Bell Man 28th Jan 2017 20:38

Thanks atpcliff, I will apply.

natops 29th Jan 2017 02:48

And joining this company with a big family of more than 3 kids is a killer. At least 4 months salary will go in to scholing... 4th kid you dont get an anual leave ticket for, every month you pay 600 aed for medical insurance etc. no inflation correction so every year you have less to spend.
Be aware...

Flyingishere 29th Jan 2017 05:36


Originally Posted by Seaman Staynes (Post 9656750)
Bell man - of you're worried about maximum age then really is EK the best option?
I hope you and all the other wannabes aren't doing this because you are chasing money you'll regret it.
With a clear head think to yourself can you fly the hours we fly, have the limited time off, be along way from home, have ****ty rosters (lots of hours + few days off)+ long time to command now? Those are some of the major points many other smaller irritations that get under your skin the longer you're here!
Just dont want to be flying with you when you've realised it was a huge mistake and then you're here, big bond, unhappy etc etc!
Off flying - AGAIN!

Just leave man. No one wants to fly with a guy like you

sluggums 29th Jan 2017 14:19

Yeah Flyingishere, why let the facts get in the way. You can add me to that list...

natops 29th Jan 2017 15:12

Flyingishere
 
You dont have a clue, do you....

Aluminium shuffler 30th Jan 2017 06:28

Long time to command? Four and a half years is still commonplace. That is pretty short by any standard for a wide body company with seniority lists.

LongLats 30th Jan 2017 10:19


Yeah Flyingishere, why let the facts get in the way
With all due respect, maybe everyone is tired of hearing these same facts over and over again in this thread. Bell Man came to this thread to simply ask about a maximum DEFO age limit and got life advice he never asked for from strangers on the internet.

Everyone's generous free advice has been well and truly heard in this forum. But why does everyone have to keep labouring the same points?

Everybody knows you guys hate your jobs and your lives and you regret everything. I feel for you, believe me it sounds terrible. But there are already a myriad of threads exclusively discussing how bad Emirates is. Can't this one be left alone for discussion about the recruitment process?

lospilotos 30th Jan 2017 13:23


Originally Posted by Aluminium shuffler (Post 9658053)
Long time to command? Four and a half years is still commonplace. That is pretty short by any standard for a wide body company with seniority lists.

4.5 was some time ago. Currently running around 5.5-6. People joined a year ago were told 7. Add to that no major expansion planned, most of the new delivery are replacements.

Aluminium shuffler 30th Jan 2017 14:26

Really? I have flown with five guys in the last two months that got promoted six months ago at their 4.5 year points.

Bell Man 30th Jan 2017 18:12

Thanks for the responses everyone. I am fully aware of the negative aspects of joining and I don't need to hear anymore of it, I get the picture.

What works for some may not work for others. I think I'm mature and wise enough to be able to make up my own mind.

con24 31st Jan 2017 17:19

Hello everyone. I am very new to this forum, and apologizing in advance if I am repeating the same question. I am wondering what experience is Emirates looking for in their flight crew. I know in the site they say 2000 or 3000 hrs, depending on what type of aircraft you flew . But do they actually hire pilots with the min requirements, or people who are currently in 703/ air taxi operations?
Any advice or information will be really helpful.
Thanks,
Con

Bell Man 31st Jan 2017 18:59

There are a lot worse places to work! Take a look at Air Niugini!!!!!!!!!


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