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mutt 25th Feb 2010 16:36

Have NAS parked aircraft in the Jeddah airport storage area? There appears to be 3 or 4 aircraft permanently parked beside the Al-Wafeer aircraft....

Mutt

Gumby 25th Feb 2010 17:38

Mutt,

If you are talking about Apron 7, that is our new home for overnights. Apron 4 and 5 is being used for daily transits and night stops out to Apron 7. It's a lovely bus ride early in the morning or late at night.

How many more A320 captains is Saudi looking to hire? Got to keep options open. ;)

Gumby

mutt 26th Feb 2010 04:40

Thanks for the answer......


looking to hire?
Originally heard 70, but don't know if that still applies nor how many have arrived.

Mutt

BadAndy 26th Feb 2010 09:58

5 have arrived and are nearly on line (all in line training now). 6 more are in Toulouse (or just getting back this week). The third class has 1 in Toulouse, coming back in the next 2 weeks. A 4th class of 6 has started to arrive in JED getting ready to jump through all the BS (oooops, I mean hoops) to get ready to go to Toulouse. That is a total of 18 so far.

The numbers I hear from an IP last week are 100+ Captains total (so 80+ to go) and they have tentative approval for 70 F/Os, but haven't even started thinking about recruiting for that yet.

The other hot rumor is that they're talking to a crew leasing company (in Kuwait) about shirt term (1-2 years) staffing for the 320 until they get the MD-90 guys transitioned over. So, who knows how many ex-pats they really want/need...

Eff Oh 26th Feb 2010 11:16

Do they look at non rated pilots? BadAndy, in your post you say guys are in Toulouse which would imply that they do? I got an email from them about recruitment (I don't even remember applying!) However I ignored it because I wasn't type rated on the airbus.

BadAndy 26th Feb 2010 15:29

Yes, in fact the majority of guys coming to it are not rated. And, even if you are already rated, you still have to do the full course, which for now is in Toulouse, but should be in-house by April. (I think most guys already rated on it with time on type are looking at other places with slightly better terms. I say slightly better because on paper the other places look a lot better -- more money, etc. But, with the bonuses and add pay that Saudia pays -- that is not listed in the contract notes -- it works out to be just about the same money either place. It is just that all the other places are much better organized and run waaaaaaaaay more efficiently than Saudia, making it easier to start there. It takes a lot of patience to deal with the Saudia process, which most rated/ current guys don't want -- or need-- to deal with). And, since Saudia is running everyone through the entire process, it doesn't matter one way or the other to them if the guy is already rated -- you'll learn it the Saudia way anyways... :8

Gumby 26th Feb 2010 15:34

I'm so confused!! I thought this was a NASair thread. :bored:

BadAndy 26th Feb 2010 21:53


I'm so confused!! I thought this was a NASair thread.
Sorry, I think we hijacked your thread. I'll stop now, and you can return to your regularly scheduled programming..... :}

FlyingOrange 11th Mar 2010 07:07

VIP Pilot
 
Thankyou for your valuable insight into NAS.

I see from your previous posts you must be fairly new to NAS, ex C130 (Prob SAAF), have little time on the Airbus and are looking to get a JAA ATPL so you can move to Europe and leave this 'Prestige Company' & country.

Also you give out great advice on Tech forum with such limited knowledge!!!

Your are an amazing man!

Are you the new DFO???????? Maybe you should go straight to CEO.

Alvand 12th Mar 2010 16:37

A320 driver,

Don't put all your eggs in NAS basket...This POS operations will let you down.!!..:yuk:

If you need more info, read the other thread about NAS.
Meantime, look elsewhere if you can. SERIOUS !!

FlyingOrange 13th Mar 2010 04:46

'Mutiny on the Sand'
 
Oh ... ouch ...... damn!!!

It's a shame you guys can't see the company emails .... hell is going on.!!!

I smell a serious change of mangers very, Very, VERY soon

Bukkake 14th Mar 2010 03:23

The emails are getting better and better! It's like a soap opera every time I check my nasaviation.com account. What makes it extra special is that it is the local guys that are fighting this time.:D Think I'll go pop some popcorn....

alanoud02 25th Mar 2010 13:24

LEAVE
 
alot are saying bad things regarding NAS and SAUDI
so assssssssssssss hoooooooles if u don't like it be A Man and do some thing about it and leave back to your stupid countryes.........and see if u even get half what u get paid in NAS..................
TRUST ME if u were not left over crew u will not be in NAS:confused:
BUT SOOOOOOOOOOON WE WILL GET U OUT ALL
LIKE MORLY

4HolerPoler 25th Mar 2010 13:41

I'll leave alanoud02's post as a legacy to his short time as a member on the site. He's left the building.

4HP

wessel_words 25th Mar 2010 13:51

Well, it's the same old third world rubbish, is it not. Can't see the wood for the trees.

The "NASA space shuttle exam", washes out a lot of people who actually know something about flying an aircraft and they are left with a load of academics, some who can fly an aircraft and some who can't. :ugh:

BBJet 1st Apr 2010 14:56

Hi guys

Any news regarding the NAS development/interview process?
Heard new Airbuses coming at the rate of one per month.Any idea about how many hours can one expect to fly in a month on the permanent contract?
Any other news at all?
PM if you prefer.
Thanks

grumman_driver 1st Apr 2010 19:16

Offers being presented to LOT crew on E170/190, interviews/sim rides scheduled on 15/16 April in Prague.

FlyingOrange 1st Apr 2010 19:29

NAS Growth
 
2010

2 x Emb
0 x Airbus

desertopsguy 2nd Apr 2010 05:03

NAS Pilot Hiring
 
There was something in the KSA media recently about their new pilot training program. 70 prospective F/O's being hired with the first 24 already in Jordan for training...All are Saudi so no need to apply if you're not one.

Seems like an awful lot of pilots to hire in one go for a small-ish airline. Is that to backfill for attrition or to prepare for future expansion?

PSO routes (essentially flying Saudi hillbillies from the boonies to the cities for half nothing) have also been stopped I heard.

There are also rumours of wide bodies in the not too distant future...

FlyingOrange 2nd Apr 2010 08:59

Correct on FO hiring. All Saudi many who have Philapino licences, with 300 hours (read 100 hours for real) and have not flown for many (upto 6) years. Shame as plenty of ex RSAF or ex-pats with qualifications to fill job. We will see how many survive.

PSO routes always being argued over as NAS looking for cheap fuel and they are the bargaining toys,

Wide-body ..... dream on, only way NAS is looking at wide body is WET LEASE.


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