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Ajax 10th Aug 2007 07:24

NASAIR Info (threads merged) - all you need to know about them
 
Hi all

Like the title says, wondering if anyone can give me the gen on pay & conditions for A320 pilots with NASair in Riyadh?

Cheers

- Ajax :)

av8r786 11th Sep 2008 21:05

NASAIR Info.
 
Hello folks,

I have been offered a job with NASAIR. Can anyone shed some light on what it is like to work there? I am supposed to go for 8 weeks of training including ground school and simulator training. What are the check rides and training like?

Thanks.

wonder 11th Sep 2008 22:19

Do your own search and think twice before you make up your mind.

av8r786 11th Sep 2008 23:06

Thanks wonder. If you are referring to the culture at all, I am very well versed in that since I am a Muslim myself. However, I want information on how they treat the employees, check rides, etc. Where can I get information on that? I have talked to one pilot I know that flies for them, he seems to be happy but I want more input. Thanks again.

LoserInLife 11th Sep 2008 23:32

Also offered a class at NAS Air today (190). I'm pretty sure that initial training starts in Singapore for indoc and sims.

av8r786 12th Sep 2008 00:06

Do you have any information on NAS?

LoserInLife 12th Sep 2008 01:02

Unfortunately I know about as much as you do about NAS right now, but I'll PM you as soon as this changes.

av8r786 12th Sep 2008 02:53

You have a choice of two roster patterns:

6 weeks on 3 weeks off or 6 weeks on 2 weeks off. Pay is $11300 and $12700 respectively. Accommodation is provided in a hotel during your stay right now. Medical is provided. Economy class tickets on your time off to home. That is basically it.

mutt 12th Sep 2008 05:26


If you are referring to the culture at all, I am very well versed in that since I am a Muslim myself
Dont confuse religion and culture!!!.

In saudi you will be treated according to your ethnic origin rather than your passport, so the way that one person is treated could be completly different to the next. Only way to find out, is to go there!!!

Mutt

JotaJota 12th Sep 2008 06:22

av8r786, I was offered a job last week as well as 3 diff acquaintances of mine. We are considering it, but need more info too. Going to the 320. Riyadh or Jeddah based? Anyone? Buehler?

Waiting on the Chinese sucks... Interviews canceled twice and now who knows.

av8r786 are you currently furloughed? Going to be? De (down)-graded? Feel free to PM me... I am taking a break from aviation in the US.

Jx2

Jaxon 12th Sep 2008 06:42

What happened to the 35/31 rostering?

I can't imagine anybody I know tolerating the conditions there with at best a 6 and 3 roster.

av8r786 12th Sep 2008 11:02

A pilot I know there says they are not offering it any more. He says he can do 5 weeks there standing on his head, how much more would one more week be?

NZ X man 12th Sep 2008 15:21

nasair
 
If you had a choice between Jeddah and Riyadh, pick Jeddah, beach community, more relaxed, you even see folks sometime waring shorts, mostly in the evening. Little Humid in the summer though. They are entirely too uptight in Riyadh.

av8r786 12th Sep 2008 16:11

Thanks NZ. Are you there or fly for NAS? I was thinking of Jeddah too. I have a cousin there so I would know someone that could show me the ropes.

KRUGERFLAP 12th Sep 2008 18:48

Nasair?
 
Got same offer.
----------------------------------------------------------------
The positions are available now for immediate start and the most urgent
matter is your understanding of the terms and conditions (provided in last
email) and your availability.
The positions will not have an interview stage, available pilots that have
the correct credentials and papers will be offered position to join the
NASAIR ground school and
simulator programme. As this last about 8 weeks we would expect a very high
success rate, given the quality and length of the induction course.

Subject to verification of your papers I can offer you start dates as
follows:

1. 21st September
2. 5th October
3. 19th October
4. 2nd November
5. 23rd November
---------------------------------------------------------------

Captain - Full time employee
Remuneration per month
Captain 6 weeks on 3 weeks off employee
Remuneration per month
Basic Salary SAR 30,833 Basic Salary SAR 30,833
Riyadh Allowance SAR 2,500 Riyadh Allowance SAR 2,500
Transportation Allowance SAR 800 Transport Allowance SAR 800 or
provided by NAS
Housing Allowance SAR 8,333 Housing Allowance SAR 8,333
provided by NAS
Guaranteed Flying Allowance SAR 3,750 Not Applicable
Flying Allowance (per month)
Flying Hours SAR per flying hour
51 – 75 hours 250
76 plus hours 400
Flying Allowance (per month)
Flying Hours SAR per flying hour
0 – 25 hours 50
26 – 50 hours 100
51 – 75 hours 250
76 plus hours 400

lang409 12th Sep 2008 20:08

Does anyone have any information about the FO renumeration package? and can anyone speak on any experiences about flying in Saudi? since I am an American from the Midwest I understand there will be a cultural difference but how is Saudi different from say...The UAE or Qatar?

KRUGERFLAP 12th Sep 2008 20:36

Nasair Fo
 
Applicability
Airbus A320 family and Embraer 190 / 195 rated First Officers
2.
Qualifications requirement

JAA / FAA / ICAO Commercial / IR
Class 1 medical
Total time: 1000 + hours
Jet: 500 + hours
Minimum age 21, maximum age 50 years
3.
Remuneration (per month )

Basic salary SAR 16,666


Riyadh allowance SAR 2,500

Guaranteed Flying allowance SAR 2,875

Housing allowance SAR 8,333

Transportation allowance SAR 800


NZ X man 13th Sep 2008 06:55

nasair
 
I was based in Riyadh 2006-2007, whilst Nas Air was getting started with the 320s. Back and forth to Jeddah and then Dammam. I also interviewd with Netjets ME which is associated with Nas Air, hence the 35 on 31 off. Riyadh sucks, and there were very few expats flying for them, I would be careful on the contract stuff, 6 weeks on with three off is not great, you lose days in travel and the Saudi's will work you hard and try to do everything on the cheap. If you were based in Europe, at least it is closer.

Cheers

NineInchSnail 13th Sep 2008 08:22

Apparently FOs on the 320 (like me) are being offered a permanent contract, meaning no commuting!!!!!! You are based there with 45 days of vacation......WTF

Anybody else experienced that or some folks got the commutable contract for 320 FO?

Thanks

wonder 13th Sep 2008 08:39

Offer
 
getting an offer with no interview and sim assessment, seems to me mom and pop operations. Good luck.


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