I was somewhat skeptical when I heard the rumours about widebodies. As for Filipino licences..I know a guy who went on a 'zero to hero' course and got one in 4months, now he's trying to get a foot in the door with NAS :suspect:

Please allow me to address this alanoud02, "BOZO"....

My dear winged bufoon, alannoud03,....

I trained many Winged bafoon Cadets like "YOU" for "Royal XYZ A.F." years ago in the "FORCE" !

Even the best of "YOU" did not impress me as much as a IDF pilot, slated for wash out that trained in the same trainer as you back in Texas heat...

You are lucky to have so many great pilots from west looking for employment with your company...so, instead of worrying what they vent here in PPRuNe, try to learn how to fly a passenger plane, before economy has improved and they're all gone back home....:}...LOL....
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NAS Recruitment
 

NAS Nasair is looking for pilots to be based in Riyadh, on a 6 weeks on, 3 weeks off rotation. Details:

Embraer 190 and Airbus 319/320
Approx. salaries per month are 10000 US for first officer, 14000 US for captains, 16000 US for instructors/checkers. Salary is tax free, ticket home provided for each rotation(economy). Housing provided in western compound(swimming pool, gym, tennis courts) in central Riyadh near Faisaliah and Kingdom malls, transport to work provided. Apply to:

NAS National Air Services
PO Box 305161
Riyadh 11361
Saudi Arabia
Telephone (966 1)217800
Fax 966 1 4625860

superhosty,
Is NAS doing the hiring or a contract company?

Anybody with current info on the conditions on the EMB and riyadh? QOL: day trips? Length of working days? conditions in riyadh if i bring family?

k

Whats the score?
 

Hi Guys,

Thinking of applying for a Capt position,and have just read this thread.......mmmm....sounds interesting to say the least:\

So before I make a serious mistake I would really appreciate your comments and information,especially from ex-pat guys currently working there.Feel free to PM me,the good,the bad and the very ugly........

Ok here we go..

Does many ex-pats live in Riyadh with their families?I understand the housing is on a compound,any names?... info regarding quality of villas,social life,facilities and security??(was asking this as I would consider NOT commuting but being based there)(my wife wants to go....mad I know)

Understand its not the best place for the wife,any comments on this?Is there any ex-pat guys there with family?(Brits,Europeans or North American?)

Schools?British or American...are the fees expensive? Mostly covered by the company?

The booze question......??:ok:Home brew?(sad I know,but I like a beer)

Whats the deal with the recruitment in Jordan and this 'FRED' guy?(heard so many great things about him)

Has salary been paid to pilots recently?Working conditions?

Am I wasting my time paying for a flight and even considering this????(I am currently out of a job, not yet desperate, but do not want to make a big f@@@ up by moving the family out there and it being a total mess)

Thanks in advance for anyone willing to give me more info.:ok:

Superhosty;

Don't know where you get your figures but a Capt on 6/3 is on $8000.
0-50 hours are included in the basic
50-75 hours are 250 SAR
75+ is 400 SAR

Most guys average about 60 hours... so far FAR short of your figures

Night stop; inside KSA 200 SAR, outside KSA 400 SAR.

6/3 is not really 6/3 as all training is done in your own time, and travel to your training.

Rotation starts AFTER you finish all your training, upto 4 month then start your 6 weeks on.


Andy 767

Guys have tried to have family here, but does not really work as you are ON your whole 6 weeks. CEO has stated that your only entitled to legal rest, ie 24hours Off in 7 days, and that does not have to be in your home base.

Wifes get bored here, nothing to do. They can't drive or work so just shopping.

Compounds are difficult to come by and waiting lists are long.

Education is at your expense. on 6/3 your family is not covered by insurance.

As for recruitment and Fred, read the link

Booze, home brew.......... we can show you

If your contemplating family then I would think more Saudi.

flying orange uhhhhhh what do u call this then.

Pilot Jobs Network


sam

Samiadam, it sounds as if they are considering per diems and allowances as part of the salary, which obviously they are not :)

Mutt

Samiadam
 

Hi, saw that link.....mmm, I call it a little far out from the truth. email them and ask for the breakdown, then see.

If you put housing in at 8250 & transport 750 SAR in you may get near this figure, but then you won't be living in the compound that they state and you'll spend that easily for a decent compound.

Then western compound they quote with pool, tennis court and gym is the company one. It has about 3 trees all tarmac, and the buildings are feet from each other... all the pilots are moving out or looking to move out very soon.

Also I think that they are being, over zealous with the flight pay.... on a good month working a full month you may get somewhere near that, but the following month you only be there for 2 weeks so you can expect to get 50 hours only.... BASIC SALARY. Thye are fully aware of what the costs are and as soon as you hit the 50 hours you'll start to slow, at 75 hours near to standstill.

Next month maybe 3 weeks on duty, 60 hours.

Flying Orange, Understood. Thank you for the info. Currently im with Royal Jordanian On 320. so no need to move at the moment.

Thanks

Sam

Salary
 

Just crunched the figure.

Flying 100hrs in a month your get $12,500.

That is no night stops.

Add $2400 for housing and transport and you come near the figures they quote.

BUT as I said, you don't do 100 hour months, and you need to spend your housing on a compound.

Also the money for trainers. NAS does not employ trainers directly. We have many JAA TRI/TRE's here and also FAA Full Check airmen, and they are not trainers. There is a lot of politics about trainers... I'll leave that there but sure you can read betwen the lines!

Try the fax number:
NAS National Air Services
PO Box 305161
Riyadh 11361
Saudi Arabia
Telephone (966 1)217800
Fax 966 1 4625860

Flying orange

I know what you guys make as I happen to work in Nas, didnt know about the basic salary been 8000 US pcm as you say, but all in all, with flying hours, my numbers are right.

About the family concerns, wouldnt recommend the Kingdom, most people here are single or happily "acting as if they were", I mean nobody reasonable would move to this country and spend 6 weeks on in a row if they actually care about their family life.

Money is very good though, and people do have fun(wont go into specifics)

Any other questions, pm.

Salary
 

Superhosty

I work at NAS too as a pilot, and I know what my basic salary is ( I get a payslip each month with it on).

Your figures are incorrect, except on a very full month. But as I said you can only fly 3-4 months a year at that rate as the rotation pattern does not allow it and neither doesthe law (max flying hours)

No sugar in my coffee please ;-)

Fast Track contact details
 

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Sorry if I am posting on wrong topic, but I heard that out of low 20ish ab-initio assesment in Jordan, 15 were selected and waiting on something. Anyidea what it would and when they would be going for their training?
thanks in advance,
CBAFIL

cantbeafoolinlove,

is the ab initio program with NAS for Saudis only or is it open to non nationals also?.

pls advice,

Thanks,

SAM

as far as i know, only for saudis'. For non-saudis, I guess it must be a super dooper, mega "wasta" i guess if.
back to original question, anyone knows when are those guys starting their training?
CBAFIL

Hi all,

They dont accept Ab initio pilots unless they are nationals.

I sent an email a few days ago to Mr Fahad "Fred" al Kezzi himself, along with my CV, and he replied today, he wrote that I don't meet the minimum requirements:D, and can not progress with my application.

UK CAA FATPL CPL IR 200 hours :*
Lol, worth a shot!:E, but with whats been written on this thread, i guess im better off.

hope this answers your question Samiadam.

Hamid and CBAFIL; thank you both for the info. Do u guys have any idea what min requirement they are asking for expat FOs. As nothing is mentioned on thier website. Are they going to expand as they have stated a year ago or is that all frozen now.

thanks

Sami