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mutt 13th Sep 2008 09:17


getting an offer with no interview and sim assessment
.... or an airline that urgently needs pilots, they dont care where they come from as long as they can fly!!!

But considering that the majority of the new hires on a recent course FAILED, i would have thought that they would have changed their policies!

Just remember that you will be signing a contract under Saudi Arabian Law with a x day termination clause, so if they do start to get enough crews to fly on the permanent contracts, economic logic dictates that the 6/3 roster period and the crews who were hired under these terms will disappear.

Mutt

spike727 14th Sep 2008 00:50

living in Saudi
 
what abou living in ex-pat compond? how much does it cost and will family put up with it.

mutt 14th Sep 2008 13:10


family put up with it
....

2 questions..... do NASAIR offer a "family visa"? Do they offer schooling for kids?

Schooling is extremely expensive and only covers kids up to mid teens, so consider if its financially prudent for you to bring them with you.

Mutt

tarik123 14th Sep 2008 13:40

Nas does not offer schooling, they offer family visa and local medical insurance.

FlyingOrange 14th Sep 2008 14:38

They offer a Family Visa ???... mmm,

Tell that to some of my work mates ... I think not,

Unless your a Saudi..... But then you don't need one!

as for the medical cover, you will have to chase up even getting your own.

jungledrvr 14th Sep 2008 18:15

Hey guys I am currently awaiting a decision on my application through Storm. Anyone else applying or thinking about it? Feel free to PM.

ASkipper 15th Sep 2008 15:48

INDOC
 
Hi folks,

can someone tell us what in th ... world is taking
8 weeks of whatever if you are rated on type???

Any details on hotac?

Anyone already there on the Storm contract?

Rgds
ASkipper

TWOTBAGS 15th Sep 2008 16:22

To all those impatiently waiting........

It's RAMADAN over here now and nothing is happening at any speed except the traffic from 4 to 6pm.

Office hours are 10-4 with a good level of absenteeism. Everything slows to Molasses pace including the traffic on Medina Road.

So, just hold your horses, things will pick up in a few weeks.:ok:


.......................................Thats if you still want to come :E

ASkipper 15th Sep 2008 17:05

Hi TWOTBAGS,

how is life then in KSA?
How many sectors per day/week?
Off-days per week?
Any Lifestyle beyond the flight deck door?

Many thanks!
ASkipper

TWOTBAGS 15th Sep 2008 23:43

Answers for ASkipper

Firstly I dont work for NASair, nor do i live in OERK.

KSA is limiting, if you search PPrune and the net you will see as much, it is not north america, not europe and not asia. If you think it is going to be anything like what you expect back home.............. forget it, not here.

It is however better than a lot of places that some of us have worked in, like deepest darkest africa, butt frozen arctic, or sweety jungle hideaway in SEAsia!:}

Sectors ...... dont know dont work for them:oh:
Days Off.......dont know dont work for them:oh:
Lifestyle.......dont know dont work for them:oh:

seeing a pattern................ but I am related, kinda, sorta.

Its a very trying experience some days and a very pleasing others. Some days seem to see everything that can be FUBAR................become FUBAR:hmm:

Others like what we had the other night are a piece of cake, blast out of one CTZ say the right words on the radio and voila..... direct track 540nm to SID IP just outside destination.:ok:

(BTW SIDs & STARs dont exist here.... but thats another story in itself, so get used to long magenta, or in the bus i suppose it would be long green and being slam dunked onto finals in RUH!):E

I suppose being culturally sensitive is the big issue, know that you are a guest worker, not much higher up the food chain than a Phillipino maid or a Bangladeshi Honey truck man in most of the locals eyes, You just earn more and go home more often.;)

Be careful what you wish for it may come true. Some love it, some hate it, its a matter of finding the right balance for the individual.

Remember when you do come but, no one put a gun to your head to make you sign the contract..........

It gets much worse........... famous word said to me by Gunship Eng....

NZ X man 16th Sep 2008 07:09

nasair
 
Hay two bags, you have received an excellent enlightenment on KSA, good on you. I think you will continue to do well there. Any infor on that company I inquired about? Think they are working on my contract as I sit and type.

X man:8

TWOTBAGS 16th Sep 2008 08:40

Gday X,

I asked around among the crews here and nobody seems to know much about them...... this is maybe a good thing because if the place is rotten then the bush telegraph usually smells out the rot;) no news is good news really.

We are into a few days of crew change time so i will ask some of the back to backs. Other than that there is not much to report, other than that our ACASS guys are being offered full time contracts. Which is good for the troops and brings a level playing field for all not a two tier system which as you can imagine caused a bit of friction.

Flysafe and expect a mail soon as I am outta here in the next few, when do you go home.

:E

jungledrvr 16th Sep 2008 20:39

Are they at all flexible on the 500 hour in type requirement? I know of people who applied after me, got an offer, and turned it down while I am still waiting. I'm trying to be patient but I'm wondering if I'm being passed over because of this? I have about 350 in the Ejet. :confused:

Mister Geezer 21st Sep 2008 00:32


Just remember that you will be signing a contract under Saudi Arabian Law with a x day termination clause, so if they do start to get enough crews to fly on the permanent contracts, economic logic dictates that the 6/3 roster period and the crews who were hired under these terms will disappear.
Mutt makes an interesting point here but can an airline like NAS attract enough full time employees that are happy to live permanently in KSA? The bulk of the guys in NAS at the moment do it for the fact they don't need to move to the ME and can still spend time at home. So without this incentive then will RUH just be one big parking lot for the many aircraft that NAS has on order? I somehow think that is a very likely scenario if they get rid of the 'commuting' contracts!

flynhigh 21st Sep 2008 01:53

Guys

If anybody really wants to work for NAS IM me and I will tell you who to talk to and you will get a job ASAP. Good Luck all.

Fly Ginger 22nd Sep 2008 16:39

Get a job asap....................ASAP, are you kidding!! Nothing happens asap, of that i can assure you:ok:

Now please, fly ginger:hmm:

777pilot 23rd Sep 2008 07:36

Hi flyhigh
I,m really wondering how that goes in NAS.
I have Candian ////ATPL 5200 TT and 1250 diff airbuses and 650 on A320 F/O.
Untill now i have sent my stuff 4 X but no respond.
Maybe You have an Idea what is going on.
fly safe & take care

Fly Ginger 23rd Sep 2008 08:11

One guy handles the initial recruitment (who incidently is not a pilot) and without being rude to him, he doesn't have the insight into what the industry is going through right now, and what could be done to get the right people into NAS. And boy, if they want to expand, they need to be recruiting now, as it can take months to get online - i started in feb, flew for the first time at the end of last month. This is not unusual, and neither is it all the companies fault - there are external issues (entry-exit visa/ work permit/licence verification etc) and these are well covered on different forums for this region. They take time and a good handful of patience (of which flying orange will tell you i'm not that good at - but getting better i hope). This is my personal opinion - there will be others who disagree, but i think that's the point of prune.........

A few people have PM me about life and working conditions here, i will get back to you as soon as posibleas i have just got back from a vacation. Will be in JED on friday in the hotel so will respond to people there

Now please remember to Fly Ginger:}

JotaJota 23rd Sep 2008 08:43

No Sim/Interview?
 
Wonder, good point...


getting an offer with no interview and sim assessment, seems to me mom and pop operations. Good luck.
I did get that offer from NAS also, come and we'll look at your licenses, logbooks, etc. and if it all checks, you'll start training. Interesting , but in my case I have over 13k hrs TT, over 10K PIC and about 8k jet... So you can see that my res should speak for itself....

Only reason I can see them making these bold offers is cause they are desperate for pilots, but hey if at this point I can not pass a sim and panel interview, I should not be flying JETS right! := :eek:

wonder 23rd Sep 2008 20:33

Remember that an interview and sim assessment are not only meant for technical eval.


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