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Old 28th Mar 2023, 17:28
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Originally Posted by k.swiss
Where did you get this from? Takes 3 months max, airline training safety, survival included. This was in Flynas.
He bases it on initial Saudia training. 9 months was an average. 5 months was the absolute fastest.

And Saudia had their own training center and aircraft. Riyadh Air will be looking to facilitate other Airlines equipment. 1 year doesn't sound unreasonable to me.
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Old 28th Mar 2023, 19:13
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What do you think about FO upgrades in the near future ?

Do they upgrade expat FOs at Saudi companies ?
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Old 28th Mar 2023, 20:38
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Originally Posted by candidate49
What do you think about FO upgrades in the near future ?

Do they upgrade expat FOs at Saudi companies ?
I wouldn't go if I was an F/O. Saudi's will have priority for all promotions, upgrade, training or management. Saudia have only ever upgraded an extremely small number of expat F/O's.
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Old 28th Mar 2023, 22:36
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Originally Posted by kungfu panda
I take an entirely different view. The middle East is a very volatile region and Saudi Arabia under the Monarchy has pretty well remained stable and maintained a relatively peaceful status quo despite Iran trying to surround them on 3 sides. They keep a pragmatic, peaceful relationship with Israel. Domestically, the vast majority of Saudi's are very happy with the system and live comfortably as part of a well educated middle class. Rapid, positive changes have been made with regard to Women's rights, so much so that young Saudi men complain that they can no longer get jobs easily as 75% of new jobs go to women.

Rocking the boat from the outside is a bad idea. It would take so little to push ISIS into power and we'd have large numbers of people executed.

In my opinion, Saudi Arabia has a very reasonable system given the region. It could certainly be a heck of a lot worse.
As long as they cut off heads and bodyparts, cane people and stone people in public (beheadings can be seen in downtown Riyadh on fridays - something to do to enhance the work/live balance on your 8 days off...) I don't see anything "reasonable" in the system. Don't get confused by shiny new buildings, mega projects and festivals - Saudi Arabia is a very deeply conservative society and I would not consider it a place that many expact pilots with given experience should move to - unless they are really desperate to find a new job.
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Old 28th Mar 2023, 23:55
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Originally Posted by kungfu panda
I don't think that'll happen Mutt. To be honest. Saudia are pretty short themselves. They have 70+ Airbuses being delivered and now 38+ 787's. And a training center which is not fit for purpose.

25 new routes announced last week.

The only thing that I expect Saudia will do is help with some initial line training/IOE, whatever you want to call it.
I don’t expect saudia to help, but lots of disgruntled guys ready to take 1/2 pension and a second salary.
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Old 29th Mar 2023, 04:35
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Originally Posted by mutt
I don’t expect saudia to help, but lots of disgruntled guys ready to take 1/2 pension and a second salary.
True..
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Old 30th Mar 2023, 08:29
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Originally Posted by kungfu panda
I take an entirely different view. The middle East is a very volatile region and Saudi Arabia under the Monarchy has pretty well remained stable and maintained a relatively peaceful status quo despite Iran trying to surround them on 3 sides. They keep a pragmatic, peaceful relationship with Israel. Domestically, the vast majority of Saudi's are very happy with the system and live comfortably as part of a well educated middle class. Rapid, positive changes have been made with regard to Women's rights, so much so that young Saudi men complain that they can no longer get jobs easily as 75% of new jobs go to women.

Rocking the boat from the outside is a bad idea. It would take so little to push ISIS into power and we'd have large numbers of people executed.

In my opinion, Saudi Arabia has a very reasonable system given the region. It could certainly be a heck of a lot worse.
Ok so as long its good in some ways tings like these can be ignored.
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Old 30th Mar 2023, 11:56
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Originally Posted by newscaster
Ok so as long its good in some ways tings like these can be ignored.
Wow. I think that there is a lot of naivity in these discussions. The middle East is not a human rights heaven. Maybe go to New Zealand if you want that.

2015- Israel killed 500 Children with fighter jets
2003-2009 British and US forces killed 268,000+
ISIS Syria- killed 5000 civilians
Iran- 100,000+ locked up or executed for wanting human rights

In Saudi Arabia the executed have been supporters of the Iran regime or drug smugglers. And compared to elsewhere the numbers are small.

Saudi Arabia has been surrounded by an enemy on 3 sides. Now there's a deal with Iran, ok.



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Old 30th Mar 2023, 17:36
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Originally Posted by kungfu panda
Wow. I think that there is a lot of naivity in these discussions. The middle East is not a human rights heaven. Maybe go to New Zealand if you want that.

2015- Israel killed 500 Children with fighter jets
2003-2009 British and US forces killed 268,000+
ISIS Syria- killed 5000 civilians
Iran- 100,000+ locked up or executed for wanting human rights

In Saudi Arabia the executed have been supporters of the Iran regime or drug smugglers. And compared to elsewhere the numbers are small.

Saudi Arabia has been surrounded by an enemy on 3 sides. Now there's a deal with Iran, ok.
I'm quoting ABC news ``The number one cause of death in CHILDREN in the US is gun violence``
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Old 3rd Apr 2023, 06:31
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RIA name could be used as "Ria" for a future LCC should they have any plan for such.
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Old 6th May 2023, 10:39
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Airbus news?

Is ria airlines completely not buying any airbus now?

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Old 18th May 2023, 18:14
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Seems to be 787 only initially. Many details will be made public by mid July
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Old 19th May 2023, 02:51
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Originally Posted by devil595499
Is ria airlines completely not buying any airbus now?
currently recruiting for 787 and airbus… so likely plan on ordering 350
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Old 19th May 2023, 04:33
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Any ideas by now about t&c’s?
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Exclamation

Until July 10th, everything will be pure speculation.
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I recommend applying so that you can take part of the presentation in July
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Originally Posted by Proline21
As long as they cut off heads and bodyparts, cane people and stone people in public (beheadings can be seen in downtown Riyadh on fridays - something to do to enhance the work/live balance on your 8 days off...) I don't see anything "reasonable" in the system. Don't get confused by shiny new buildings, mega projects and festivals - Saudi Arabia is a very deeply conservative society and I would not consider it a place that many expact pilots with given experience should move to - unless they are really desperate to find a new job.
Yeah.. It´s pretty f@cking far from Paradise isn´t it.. It´s hard to actually phantom the reality of it all, if you´re dreaming it all up, to be that utopia job. FFS look at those adverts out there on the job adverts - it screams at you " you are OUR slaves ".
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Originally Posted by Klimax
Yeah.. It´s pretty f@cking far from Paradise isn´t it.. It´s hard to actually phantom the reality of it all, if you´re dreaming it all up, to be that utopia job. FFS look at those adverts out there on the job adverts - it screams at you " you are OUR slaves ".
The more people thinking like you guys the better...keep watching the media...you're doing great

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Old 30th May 2023, 05:49
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Originally Posted by virga 208
The more people thinking like you guys the better...keep watching the media...you're doing great
That is a a strange way to sell a product.

Like it or not, that is a common perception. KSA and it's supporters can complain as much as they like about the negative stereotypes, but this airline is not going to make a go of it with only "informed" customers....
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In other news;

https://www.reuters.com/business/aer...ws-2023-05-28/

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