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Old 19th Mar 2023, 06:33
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Originally Posted by Hitchiker
golden years in ME is over since long time,nowadays food,education and so on is very expensive and RUH is very expensive too.I used to pay around 70-80 usd for meat ,vegetables,bread,fruit and some jam
at carrefour ryiadh,nothing fancy.
The amount of savings for a family in the sandpit would be pretty much the same as in Europe if not lower,choosing to move or not would be pretty obvious then
but if you are young,single or married with no kids or just one then ME3 would be still good,ryiadh would be still pretty challenging but that's my 2 cents.
Surely they have changed over the years and is great but not as much as they are trying to advertise.Just read the newspapers...
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Old 19th Mar 2023, 06:36
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Have you ever lived in Saudi? They have had some amazing changes over the last 7 years.
I´m here right now (in KSA). For most "foreigners" (slaves if you like!) that would like to consider themselves "expats", the changes that you´re referring to (and I´ve noticed them as well) are still lightyears away from what by western standards are considered anything normal. If you times 0 by 100 - you still only get 0. But, yes, things are getting "better" here - that is true (but that´s about it!).
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Old 19th Mar 2023, 06:39
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Originally Posted by mutt
Localisation limits for first officers came into effect 2 days ago, 60% must be saudi and will increase until it reaches 100%.

As for the package, housing is generally ex basic salary so 300k is rather excessive and not required by the market.
Yes, the date is coming up in a few days, and immigration will soon turn even more interesting - in contradiction to the upcoming flying. I´m getting to old and comfortable, and I still like flying, to have to adjust myself on the flight deck and be accommodating. Time to leave.
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Old 19th Mar 2023, 06:39
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Mutt. I know that you've lived in Saudi forever. But it's not a great life for families despite the changes. Education is very expensive, even after any subsidy.
And don’t forget the new residence fee for family, I don’t know if RIA will be considered government or not, if not, then it’s something like 9,600 SAR per kid per year.
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Old 23rd Mar 2023, 09:41
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Having been there for six years , in my opinion they will find very difficult to attract pilots if the contract remain something like 20:10 with no possibility to commute , as someone already said don’ t think you are going to Dubai or even Doha , spending an entire year on Riyadh waiting for the holiday off days, could be a very hard way of living in this region .
They should think to implement some commuting or reverse roster , but you know what ? They will not , is the long living ,take it or leave it .
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Old 23rd Mar 2023, 16:32
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Just got rejected. Clearly 10,000+ Airbus hours and a TRE doesn’t count for much. 😂
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Old 23rd Mar 2023, 17:18
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Originally Posted by sluggums
Just got rejected. Clearly 10,000+ Airbus hours and a TRE doesn’t count for much. 😂
Sorry to ask but is your Airbus time inclusive of widebody, longhaul?
If not maybe you should apply at a slightly later date.
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Old 23rd Mar 2023, 19:29
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Originally Posted by sluggums
Just got rejected. Clearly 10,000+ Airbus hours and a TRE doesn’t count for much. 😂
Believe me - they probably just did you a favor and possibly saved you, your life!
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Old 23rd Mar 2023, 20:12
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Originally Posted by sluggums
Just got rejected. Clearly 10,000+ Airbus hours and a TRE doesn’t count for much. 😂
Did they find it a red flag for someone that qualified to apply?
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Old 24th Mar 2023, 03:42
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NEOM airlines is also starting at the end of 2024 according to news articles.
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Old 24th Mar 2023, 05:39
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Originally Posted by sluggums
Just got rejected. Clearly 10,000+ Airbus hours and a TRE doesn’t count for much. 😂
https://www.prnewswire.com/news-rele...301771521.html

Sounds like they're going all 787 initially so probably want the Boeing guys first.
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Old 24th Mar 2023, 08:16
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Selection process

Does any one know what the Assesement process is ?

Tests / stages of the assessment
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Old 24th Mar 2023, 10:54
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Does any one know what the Assesement process is ?

Tests / stages of the assessment
I don't think that anyone has been through it yet but it's being done by a consultancy, I believe, so maybe research that company for how they do it.
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Old 24th Mar 2023, 11:13
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Got rejected, too.

ME flag carrier A330 wide body first officer with 3000 hours (2000 on widebody).

I guess they will go all Boeing for the time being.

Still weird because they sound and look so confident for a startup.
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Old 24th Mar 2023, 12:44
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A friend with B777 rating 5000 + hours FO currently flying in a legacy got rejected too .

Don’t know what their plan is…
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Old 24th Mar 2023, 17:09
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Ten judges sentenced for being to lenient with activists, that should help.
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Old 24th Mar 2023, 19:20
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Have you ever lived in Saudi? They have had some amazing changes over the last 7 years.
​​​​​​​Ten judges sentenced for being to lenient with activists.
Indeed!
Come on everybody!let’s pack and go immediately.
I can see already thousands of people coming from everywhere in the world queuing at the immigration waiting to start living the dream 7 years from now.Expat families,crowded beaches people wearing shorts while enjoying beers in the sun,women kitesurfing and wearing bikinis…pork
and liquor stores ,clubs ,brunches by the beach,ladies nights ,Schools celebrating the international day and so on,you will regret not to have applied before.





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Old 24th Mar 2023, 19:43
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Ten judges sentenced for being to lenient with activists, that should help.
I take an entirely different view. The middle East is a very volatile region and Saudi Arabia under the Monarchy has pretty well remained stable and maintained a relatively peaceful status quo despite Iran trying to surround them on 3 sides. They keep a pragmatic, peaceful relationship with Israel. Domestically, the vast majority of Saudi's are very happy with the system and live comfortably as part of a well educated middle class. Rapid, positive changes have been made with regard to Women's rights, so much so that young Saudi men complain that they can no longer get jobs easily as 75% of new jobs go to women.

Rocking the boat from the outside is a bad idea. It would take so little to push ISIS into power and we'd have large numbers of people executed.

In my opinion, Saudi Arabia has a very reasonable system given the region. It could certainly be a heck of a lot worse.
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Old 25th Mar 2023, 13:56
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Originally Posted by kungfu panda
I take an entirely different view. The middle East is a very volatile region and Saudi Arabia under the Monarchy has pretty well remained stable and maintained a relatively peaceful status quo despite Iran trying to surround them on 3 sides. They keep a pragmatic, peaceful relationship with Israel. Domestically, the vast majority of Saudi's are very happy with the system and live comfortably as part of a well educated middle class. Rapid, positive changes have been made with regard to Women's rights, so much so that young Saudi men complain that they can no longer get jobs easily as 75% of new jobs go to women.

Rocking the boat from the outside is a bad idea. It would take so little to push ISIS into power and we'd have large numbers of people executed.

In my opinion, Saudi Arabia has a very reasonable system given the region. It could certainly be a heck of a lot worse.
I don’t necessarily disagree with you, but we’re talking about folks packing up their lives to live there as an expat.

It’s a tall ask, and it seems like there’s a few components of the package missing to be attractive to most.
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Old 25th Mar 2023, 14:17
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Having worked for EK for 8;years… ( the last 6 I regret)…. I would never consider going to Saudi Arabia. Perhaps for $ 100000 a month and then a month off, and based in New York.
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