RIA Saudi Airlines?
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And Saudia had their own training center and aircraft. Riyadh Air will be looking to facilitate other Airlines equipment. 1 year doesn't sound unreasonable to me.
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I wouldn't go if I was an F/O. Saudi's will have priority for all promotions, upgrade, training or management. Saudia have only ever upgraded an extremely small number of expat F/O's.
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I take an entirely different view. The middle East is a very volatile region and Saudi Arabia under the Monarchy has pretty well remained stable and maintained a relatively peaceful status quo despite Iran trying to surround them on 3 sides. They keep a pragmatic, peaceful relationship with Israel. Domestically, the vast majority of Saudi's are very happy with the system and live comfortably as part of a well educated middle class. Rapid, positive changes have been made with regard to Women's rights, so much so that young Saudi men complain that they can no longer get jobs easily as 75% of new jobs go to women.
Rocking the boat from the outside is a bad idea. It would take so little to push ISIS into power and we'd have large numbers of people executed.
In my opinion, Saudi Arabia has a very reasonable system given the region. It could certainly be a heck of a lot worse.
Rocking the boat from the outside is a bad idea. It would take so little to push ISIS into power and we'd have large numbers of people executed.
In my opinion, Saudi Arabia has a very reasonable system given the region. It could certainly be a heck of a lot worse.
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I don't think that'll happen Mutt. To be honest. Saudia are pretty short themselves. They have 70+ Airbuses being delivered and now 38+ 787's. And a training center which is not fit for purpose.
25 new routes announced last week.
The only thing that I expect Saudia will do is help with some initial line training/IOE, whatever you want to call it.
25 new routes announced last week.
The only thing that I expect Saudia will do is help with some initial line training/IOE, whatever you want to call it.
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From: Kot Addu
I take an entirely different view. The middle East is a very volatile region and Saudi Arabia under the Monarchy has pretty well remained stable and maintained a relatively peaceful status quo despite Iran trying to surround them on 3 sides. They keep a pragmatic, peaceful relationship with Israel. Domestically, the vast majority of Saudi's are very happy with the system and live comfortably as part of a well educated middle class. Rapid, positive changes have been made with regard to Women's rights, so much so that young Saudi men complain that they can no longer get jobs easily as 75% of new jobs go to women.
Rocking the boat from the outside is a bad idea. It would take so little to push ISIS into power and we'd have large numbers of people executed.
In my opinion, Saudi Arabia has a very reasonable system given the region. It could certainly be a heck of a lot worse.
Rocking the boat from the outside is a bad idea. It would take so little to push ISIS into power and we'd have large numbers of people executed.
In my opinion, Saudi Arabia has a very reasonable system given the region. It could certainly be a heck of a lot worse.
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2015- Israel killed 500 Children with fighter jets
2003-2009 British and US forces killed 268,000+
ISIS Syria- killed 5000 civilians
Iran- 100,000+ locked up or executed for wanting human rights
In Saudi Arabia the executed have been supporters of the Iran regime or drug smugglers. And compared to elsewhere the numbers are small.
Saudi Arabia has been surrounded by an enemy on 3 sides. Now there's a deal with Iran, ok.
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From: 3 rd position from the sun.
Wow. I think that there is a lot of naivity in these discussions. The middle East is not a human rights heaven. Maybe go to New Zealand if you want that.
2015- Israel killed 500 Children with fighter jets
2003-2009 British and US forces killed 268,000+
ISIS Syria- killed 5000 civilians
Iran- 100,000+ locked up or executed for wanting human rights
In Saudi Arabia the executed have been supporters of the Iran regime or drug smugglers. And compared to elsewhere the numbers are small.
Saudi Arabia has been surrounded by an enemy on 3 sides. Now there's a deal with Iran, ok.
2015- Israel killed 500 Children with fighter jets
2003-2009 British and US forces killed 268,000+
ISIS Syria- killed 5000 civilians
Iran- 100,000+ locked up or executed for wanting human rights
In Saudi Arabia the executed have been supporters of the Iran regime or drug smugglers. And compared to elsewhere the numbers are small.
Saudi Arabia has been surrounded by an enemy on 3 sides. Now there's a deal with Iran, ok.
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From: Utopia
As long as they cut off heads and bodyparts, cane people and stone people in public (beheadings can be seen in downtown Riyadh on fridays - something to do to enhance the work/live balance on your 8 days off...) I don't see anything "reasonable" in the system. Don't get confused by shiny new buildings, mega projects and festivals - Saudi Arabia is a very deeply conservative society and I would not consider it a place that many expact pilots with given experience should move to - unless they are really desperate to find a new job.
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Like it or not, that is a common perception. KSA and it's supporters can complain as much as they like about the negative stereotypes, but this airline is not going to make a go of it with only "informed" customers....
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