Qatar salary reductions and redundancies 😬
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A380 waste of money = True
But you take the 380 pilots give them a TR/CCQ on a different fleet and sign a new 3 years bond. QR style.
Don't know how true the 380 pilot return is but lets wait and see.
But you take the 380 pilots give them a TR/CCQ on a different fleet and sign a new 3 years bond. QR style.
Don't know how true the 380 pilot return is but lets wait and see.
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Hi ,380 and 330 guys outside Doha ,were asked if they could join directly in the US .
Most likely the man power missplanning team together with the geniuses in the untraining department booked slots without observing travel and quarantine requirements.
Believe it or not they offer the new pay scheme and luckily the response they get is the gentle middle finger.
Most likely the man power missplanning team together with the geniuses in the untraining department booked slots without observing travel and quarantine requirements.
Believe it or not they offer the new pay scheme and luckily the response they get is the gentle middle finger.
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Now that almost 80% of the total population of Qatar is vaccinated including a vast majority of the crew, they’ve just came up with a brand new shiny memo saying that all crew have to stay in the hotel promises in every single layover “due to a MOPH note” and cannot go out. Freedom is taken out once more without any explanation and rational reason.
So, most of us took the vaccine in order to get back to a kind of freedom and please them. We can go back home and come back without any issue (excepting providing a PCR) but in layover... NO! I can stay one month in the States if I want but I cannot leave my hotel when I have 3 days off in PHL! 🙈
Some hotels seem to have been contacted and asked to monitor and report the crew........ and some CSD would have been requested to spend time in the lobby watching...
Living the dream in a fairy tale!
So, most of us took the vaccine in order to get back to a kind of freedom and please them. We can go back home and come back without any issue (excepting providing a PCR) but in layover... NO! I can stay one month in the States if I want but I cannot leave my hotel when I have 3 days off in PHL! 🙈
Some hotels seem to have been contacted and asked to monitor and report the crew........ and some CSD would have been requested to spend time in the lobby watching...
Living the dream in a fairy tale!
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Monitoring by the crew or hotel staff…freedom
you only need to check in our Instagram “pilots”pages and you will see how much locals are respecting our latest acn but they are untouchable anyway like in doha they are untouchable disregarding what ever they do
If you can’t go out in outstation so how come we are able to do it in Doha where the numbers been higher than pretty much in any European country.
Btw. The grooming monkey is back
you only need to check in our Instagram “pilots”pages and you will see how much locals are respecting our latest acn but they are untouchable anyway like in doha they are untouchable disregarding what ever they do
If you can’t go out in outstation so how come we are able to do it in Doha where the numbers been higher than pretty much in any European country.
Btw. The grooming monkey is back
Back to being locked up in the crew hotel! Along with spies to report on any infringements! Bog standard QR methods of management!
Returning crew who are needy for a job, and who comeback 25% worse off. Please use QR as a stop gap. Get what you need out of them and go when things pick up. And if you need to leave with only a months notice - dont tell them. Just walk away. You wont be owed anything financially!
Returning crew who are needy for a job, and who comeback 25% worse off. Please use QR as a stop gap. Get what you need out of them and go when things pick up. And if you need to leave with only a months notice - dont tell them. Just walk away. You wont be owed anything financially!
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they will use the ex 330/380 guys first and internal transfers from 320 so then the ex 320 guys can come back as well.
expect more movement from 350 to 777 with the grounding as well..
they will use the ex 330/380 guys first and internal transfers from 320 so then the ex 320 guys can come back as well.
expect more movement from 350 to 777 with the grounding as well..
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Everybody knows the company does not care about pilots or any employee, but one has to wonder how big a hole they can dig themselves?
On line its very clear that morale is through the floor across the board.
TREs are saying that guys are showing up to LPCs and just shrugging their way through.
Most FOs you speak to will tell you they have zero incentive past earning a crust to be here. No hope of an upgrade even to SFO and any left seat vacancy in the next 2 years will most certainly be filled by DECs. A lot of FOs I speak to are actively looking for an out. If things pick up elsewhere there is a real danger of blue on blue culture prevailing.
I was in Training for 3 years before the pandemic and some of the absolute clowns I saw come in would frighten you. Some days you'd be looking at a DEC in training and asking to see his documents again just to be sure. Yet when the axe came last year the good guys were tossed and the idiots stayed. HR basically took anybody who applied from certain regions to fill left seat vacancies and CV maneuvers were common.
The issue of guys not returning is chronic now and the big fear in the office amongst those with a "stable head" is that new recruitment in the future may be negatively impacted by the anecdotal stories told.
I came here 12 years ago. Had a family here, but dear god I cannot wait to be out of this circus.
On line its very clear that morale is through the floor across the board.
TREs are saying that guys are showing up to LPCs and just shrugging their way through.
Most FOs you speak to will tell you they have zero incentive past earning a crust to be here. No hope of an upgrade even to SFO and any left seat vacancy in the next 2 years will most certainly be filled by DECs. A lot of FOs I speak to are actively looking for an out. If things pick up elsewhere there is a real danger of blue on blue culture prevailing.
I was in Training for 3 years before the pandemic and some of the absolute clowns I saw come in would frighten you. Some days you'd be looking at a DEC in training and asking to see his documents again just to be sure. Yet when the axe came last year the good guys were tossed and the idiots stayed. HR basically took anybody who applied from certain regions to fill left seat vacancies and CV maneuvers were common.
The issue of guys not returning is chronic now and the big fear in the office amongst those with a "stable head" is that new recruitment in the future may be negatively impacted by the anecdotal stories told.
I came here 12 years ago. Had a family here, but dear god I cannot wait to be out of this circus.
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well said
Very well said. I couldn't have written it better. Me as FO I can confirm everything you said. I was worried about my job at the beginning of the pandemic. Now? Now I don't care anymore and if I get fired I'll be glad someone made the decision for me. I'm incredibly tired, I'm just surviving on flights from lack of rest. Sometimes I'm so tired I'd rather just do paperwork and have no interest in flying. Constant fluster from poor communication and bad decisions by our management. I do the bare minimum just to make the flight safe and not have to explain anything in the office and the rest I don't really, really care. Now I look at my roster I just want to cry. A roster that is only legal in Qatar, according to EASA or FAA my license should have been suspended a long time ago. No chance to be home, see my folks and do perfectly normal things. I'm just flying, fighting fatigue, locked in a hotel room with no way to get out and eating economy food from plastic boxes. The Company has become a company for people who have to be here, not for people who want to be here. Sooner or later only people from problematic countries will stay here, for whom Qatar is unfortunately a better place to live. The rest will escape. You can see it in the cabin crew. All crews from developing countries, mostly from the Philippines, India and Thailand. Nothing against them, but this company is unable to offer anything other than tax free money. The only future here is be a baby sitter for the DEC. No thank you.
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Amazing, why is it that these posts are always written by someone who is new to pprune. The trouble with this statement is you fail to appreciate that pilot attrition is quite high as well as the fact that not everyone wants to come back on such a poor salary. FO on old contract earns more than a re-hired captain. Most people appear to be returning out of necessity rather than choice. Most I talk to are looking for the next job on a daily basis. Once the industry picks up (and it will), Qatar will be in deep
Amazing, why is it that these posts are always written by someone who is new to pprune. The trouble with this statement is you fail to appreciate that pilot attrition is quite high as well as the fact that not everyone wants to come back on such a poor salary. FO on old contract earns more than a re-hired captain. Most people appear to be returning out of necessity rather than choice. Most I talk to are looking for the next job on a daily basis. Once the industry picks up (and it will), Qatar will be in deep
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While what you are saying is of course true I think that is not the point he makes. I fly both of the Boeing types and a lot of FOs I fly with especially on the 787 say similar. Obviously we all take time to adjust to something new but the quality of some new hires on Boeing is well below the required standard especially given the weight of responsibility the OMA places on Captains with the narrow constraints put on FOs.
Short and rushed training courses coupled with the fact there is no requirement for wide body time do not help either.
Bottom line on this issue(and its a big issue the company ignores) is that talented FOs have left and will most certainly leave in the future due to a ridiculous lack of advancement opportunities. Currently they won't even give a guy his 3rd stripe when he earns it.
Training have been telling management for a while that soon DECs will be "unrosterable" under blue line restrictions. This is due to a lack of SFOs to as said above to "babysit".
Short and rushed training courses coupled with the fact there is no requirement for wide body time do not help either.
Bottom line on this issue(and its a big issue the company ignores) is that talented FOs have left and will most certainly leave in the future due to a ridiculous lack of advancement opportunities. Currently they won't even give a guy his 3rd stripe when he earns it.
Training have been telling management for a while that soon DECs will be "unrosterable" under blue line restrictions. This is due to a lack of SFOs to as said above to "babysit".
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dont know if it’s true but all eligible Boeing pilots already called back,
Some ex 330/380 guys already back from outside and others have been contacted.
ex 320 only taken back from inside the country so far.
dont know if it’s true but all eligible Boeing pilots already called back,
Some ex 330/380 guys already back from outside and others have been contacted.
ex 320 only taken back from inside the country so far.
