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EK to Decommission 50%+ of Airbus A380, Axe 1/2 of Pilots & Cabin Crew

Old 29th Oct 2020, 08:18
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this know since January or so but there is slight dispute between Abu Dhabi and Dubai as the majority of that field is in Abu Dhabi And of course who has more rights on it
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Old 29th Oct 2020, 09:41
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AD will not develop it yet as it would give Dubai leverage over Foreign and Economic Policy. Lots of infighting between AD and Dubai over UAE actions in Yemen and Libya. Dubai will be in deep doodoo for a while yet.
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Old 29th Oct 2020, 18:46
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This is not really new news .
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Old 29th Oct 2020, 18:48
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Was just reading in Arabianbusiness that Timi is staying on. Postponing his retirement no less. He will be the fall guy. As Ahmed the Liar and the other Habibis wonít want to lose face. I guess EK and Timi simply do it better. I did chuckle about the huge cash reserves that they claim yet Mo gave $2 billion. All smoke and mirrors. I believe ICD has used the money elsewhere. Bad times ahead. Again. I always say it. I really really feel for the poor people and families that have been treated inhumanely by the filthy EK Gangsters.
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Old 30th Oct 2020, 00:49
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Someone will need to buy him a pocket calculator for Christmas or draw him a very simple and small diagram. The business plan of operating airplanes which carry 10% more than everyone else's but that burn 20% more fuel has a finite life span.

"Sir" could perhaps join the lecture circuit - "My secret management technique to making a small fortune in the airline business: Start with a large fortune"
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Old 30th Oct 2020, 03:03
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“Sir" could perhaps join the lecture circuit - "My secret management technique to making a small fortune in the airline business: Start with a large fortune"

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA best analogy of TCTC ever
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Old 30th Oct 2020, 05:51
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Lessons from Sir Richard Branson ....
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Old 31st Oct 2020, 16:24
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You almost got there old fella. 517 vs 354 three class, 617 vs 425 two class. But please don't let facts clutter your ramblings.
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Old 1st Nov 2020, 00:01
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As in
(517 / 354 - 1) x 100 [%]
(​​​​​​617 / 425 - 1) x 100 [%]
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Old 1st Nov 2020, 00:49
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Who cares?
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Old 1st Nov 2020, 04:26
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Exactly. It carries 46% more pax than the 777.

I’m not sure what sort of load factor would be the break even point for a given route but it clearly needs to be pretty full in order to be making money.

It is a wonderful aircraft and I feel privileged that I was able to fly it.
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Old 1st Nov 2020, 05:58
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Old 1st Nov 2020, 17:31
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Heureux les pauvres en esprit:-)
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Old 2nd Nov 2020, 10:08
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Mange tout Rodney, mange tout.
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Old 2nd Nov 2020, 10:23
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I am surprised that the redundant A380 guys are still defending the A380. There is a direct link between 115 A380s and your redundancies. Last yearís profit margin was around 1% and there were signs of worldwide economy slowdown even before the Covid. What people donít understand is that the recession was inevitable due to many other factors, Covid just made things worse. EK has never had a contingency plan and that is worrying to say the least.
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Old 2nd Nov 2020, 11:44
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Not defending it as such, just correcting the assertion that it carried only 10% more pax.

I realise the aircraft does have its faults and that smaller twins are more economically viable, but I do appreciate the engineering behind it and maintain that it is a beautiful, and impressive, aircraft to fly.

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I think you meant to say there was a direct link between the 115 380s and your job. You Eric sure ain't that clever. However your cleverness scores greater points than your empathy.

I am not sure many airlines had contingency plans for a virus shutting down the world. Looking at Expat pilots in China, Korea, Hong Kong, Singapore, UAE and Qatar the landscape has changed dramatically over the last 7 or 8 months. Some airlines may have done better than others, but the results are still very sad. Even legacy Airlines have pilots living with uncertainty. But it probably a little easier when doing that in your home country.

​​​​Time for the pilot group to start looking after each other. It's never been more important than as it is now.

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Old 2nd Nov 2020, 14:19
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It sounds like the 777 at CX is the same as the 380 at EK . The biggest aircraft is the most vulnerable.
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Old 2nd Nov 2020, 17:23
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Correct Fatbus
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CX and SQ are adding narrow bodies to their fleets through the mergers with Cathay Dragon and Silk Air respectively. QR, EY, ET and TK already have narrow bodies. The days of an airline operating an all widebody fleet may be over for the foreseeable future. Instead of scooping the cream from the top, i.e. the long haul premium traveller, airlines will need to cater for a much broader range of customer in order to stay afloat.

The easier to fill, lower operating cost, more flexible, and increasingly longer range single aisle aircraft are going to play an important role going forwards. CX have pushed the B777 - 9 back until at least 2025 and are introducing the A321NEO.
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