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EK to Decommission 50%+ of Airbus A380, Axe 1/2 of Pilots & Cabin Crew

Old 6th Nov 2020, 18:41
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for this who have it I personally it going to be frozen with company contribution anymore - after all a consequent step.
but you will be able to contribute by yourself and above the 5% - you choose. For sure the release will only be after you leave to keep a pressure point on you - but that’s only me thinking that way
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Old 9th Nov 2020, 07:44
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​If say 2000 777 pilots gave just 500 dhms a month to the 400 or so Unpaid leave colleagues, it is such a minuscule, doable, charitable act, that would make the difference between genuine hardship/ forced resignation, or staying employed​​​​​​
I believe that was done when the 777 pilots were flying close to full rosters, doing 20hr turns and trying not to up to give Fleet a reason to sack you, all the while on half salary for 6 months (or working on unpaid leave for 3 - whichever way you look at).

Point being, no matter what savings were introduced, it still wasn't going to save jobs. EK used this crisis as a convenient opportunity to excuse themselves from their egotistical A380 orders and still save face.
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Old 11th Nov 2020, 16:26
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Depressing as hell that video.

One cheery guy (good on him), and the other one barely able to keep the tears at bay. I wouldn't want the second one driving a bus I'm on in that state.
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Old 11th Nov 2020, 17:38
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Good for both guys. And I doubt that the 380 skipper is tearful when he's driving, just when he's being interviewed on camera by a pro. She herself would be tearful when asked about her career being wrenched from her.
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Old 12th Nov 2020, 13:40
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When hiring starts back up, just remember how you were treated back in 2020, and decided wisely.
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Old 12th Nov 2020, 17:32
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UAE is now off the UK Quarantine List. Once the lockdown ends, that will surely be a bit of a lifeline to the UAE and EK. There's a huge winter sun market waiting to explode into life.
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Old 12th Nov 2020, 17:57
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https://www.gov.uk/guidance/coronavi...avel-corridors
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Old 17th Nov 2020, 01:19
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Originally Posted by White Knight
You would suggest then that all current 777 pilots and the 380 pilots still flying quit now in case there will be no PF in the future?

Don't really know what else to say about your 'advice'......
Call it what you like, advice, suggestion or fair warning. Its nothing more than a consideration for those affected. Its not a point for debate.

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Old 17th Nov 2020, 07:40
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Well, I guess it depends on how much Dubai depends on the UK market for its airline and propping up its tourism economy. I think the UK is a market that is guaranteed to bring in winter money for the city, and also a massive chunk of the leisure market in airline seats.

If testing is in place, then it’s a lifeline for the economy. Without it, likely more airline job losses and a faltering economy.

I would have thought most on here would welcome the news?
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Old 17th Nov 2020, 09:46
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I don’t think any state in the ‘western hemisphere’ has it under control. And I don’t think that will change anytime soon.

This is why testing is the crucial piece of the puzzle. If Dubai can accept tourists and passengers who are certified virus-free at the point of travel it could save the economy.

I also accept that a lot depends on Abu Dhabi. I guess there’s no benefit to them of letting Dubai and EK prosper whilst risking the virus entering the country.
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Old 17th Nov 2020, 17:51
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Originally Posted by The Outlaw
Its not a point for debate.
Anything on here is up for debate
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Old 17th Nov 2020, 23:17
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Whilst the UAE may be off the UK quarantine list, the UK is locked down until 2 December and whilst 1.2 million Brits visited last year, many of them would be 3 night stopovers on the way to somewhere else.

There could be some demand over the northern hemisphere winter for a sunny, COVID free destination and Dubai has plenty of attractions and cheap hotel rooms. However, as a destination in its own right it won’t be filling A380s and B777s, EK needs the long haul transit traffic it was designed for and that won’t be back until sometime after a vaccine is in widespread use.

SQ is grounding the A380s and most of the B777s for around the next 12 months and will be operating B737s, B787s and A350s. CX are grounding many of their B777s and are going A321/A350 and don’t want the B777-X until 2025. EY has abandoned plans for world domination and is becoming a medium sized airline. QR have grounded the A380 and may not bring it back.
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Old 18th Nov 2020, 06:42
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Lufthansa is taking out b777 and A320 worth 124 airplanes across the entire group
air France dumped the 380 as well as BA will or is doing it
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Old 18th Nov 2020, 10:55
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I have grave doubts that Dubai has suddenly become a safe destination. Says who?

Any adverse statistics or news concerning the dictatorship of Dubai are quickly buried before they can ever appear in the media. Information suppression is the name of the game there, as it also is in the other "United" emirates.

Nevertheless, I am sure that EK will make a mighty attempt to resurrect itself once the panic-stricken public can fly long-haul again. There could be a battle royal between EK and QR. EY looks to have thrown in the towel already.
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Old 18th Nov 2020, 12:09
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International travel like that on a decent scale is 3/4 years away. Move on, nothing to see here
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Old 18th Nov 2020, 17:09
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Covid is far from under control in the uae. The amount of people running around, coughing and having flu like symptoms is very prevalent.

what dubai does have under control is information suppression by under reporting cases, in a bid to minimize the impact on the economy.

if anything with the amount of employees, from laborers to cleaners, restaurant staff and even hotel staff having to share transport, accommodation and even bathrooms , you donít have to think about it twice that dubai is not reporting the actual amount of cases
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Old 18th Nov 2020, 21:24
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I would hazard to say not unlike a rather large nation where the virus started.

A nation of 1.4 billion people densely populated cities and just like that all cured and aviation and the economy back and booming on a domestic scale.

The CP of C decided that it could no longer afford the economic disaster that was occurring and in such declared the virus defeated.

If more nations actually just got on with business while dealing with the pandemic in a more balanced approach instead of completely shutting down many of us would still be employed.
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Old 18th Nov 2020, 21:48
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In Singapore, COVID spread like wildfire throughout the foreign worker dormitories where migrant labourers from the Indian subcontinent live in close proximity, sharing bathrooms and dining facilities. New cases were around 1000 per day at the peak and 94% of COVID cases occurred in these facilities. The virus is now under control in Singapore, with no new cases for a week and about 60 current ones.

Does Dubai house it’s foreign labour in similar conditions? 🤔
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Old 18th Nov 2020, 22:13
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Originally Posted by krismiler

Does Dubai house itís foreign labour in similar conditions? 🤔
It certainly does. Itís highly likely that the amount of cases is way under reported there.
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