EK...The Good Things
You do realise what a fantastic guy your post makes you sound like, right? Plenty of "mouthy" around here and it seems it ain't just the cc....
Back to good things.... the fact that not everyone has forgotten where they started and respects that each group has their job to do, even if they don't understand the details or the whys....
Being such a big company that the likelihood of a 2nd encounter with unpleasant crew is very low... funny though, the bigger the company, the more unpleasant ones there seem to be. But I suppose that is for the other thread...
Back to good things.... the fact that not everyone has forgotten where they started and respects that each group has their job to do, even if they don't understand the details or the whys....
Being such a big company that the likelihood of a 2nd encounter with unpleasant crew is very low... funny though, the bigger the company, the more unpleasant ones there seem to be. But I suppose that is for the other thread...
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Being such a big company that the likelihood of a 2nd encounter with unpleasant crew is very low
When you get a good crew, it's great, it's fun, it's a lot less work to get things communicated and done.
When you have a Purser or SFS or both who are tyrants, or who are in a "who's more important" contest, then it's just a bore, I pity the crew that have to work in those circumstances.
At least if the guy/girl in the other seat is an arse they will get told by yours truly, I also make suggestions on how to make their own sandwiches/drinks on the return sector...
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Oh yes, crew make or break a trip, indeed. Some complain that EK is not as social as wherever they came from, no it's not but then again the flying is very different. Back home after a crap flight couldn't wait to go have drinks with the crew. Here, crap flight means I need time on my own before I even want to look at another human for at least a couple of hours...
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Ahhh boohoooo you've only got a free house to lounge round in whilst watching your maid do all your cleaning. How do you cope with all those brand new aircraft they lumber on you. Mine are tech so often I feel like phoning the training department to say I've covered most of this years non normals, I don't need a sim as I've already done it for real.
Staff travel to exotic destinations, poor darlings. I've never had this in 9 years.
You lot want to live in the permafrost that is England's weather watching airlines collapse like nine pins. BMI Excell Globespan RAF
Regards and slightly blotto on my birthday, tonker
Staff travel to exotic destinations, poor darlings. I've never had this in 9 years.
You lot want to live in the permafrost that is England's weather watching airlines collapse like nine pins. BMI Excell Globespan RAF
Regards and slightly blotto on my birthday, tonker
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I always appreciated the limo rides to and from work and training. Always figured the reason they did this was because our rosters were so crazy with all the all-nighters we do, that if we actually drove ourselves home after these types of trips all month, half of us would probably die in car wrecks from falling asleep at the wheel!! Sad but true. And since it's all about image here, that certainly would not look good for the airline! Can't count how many times I've nodded off in the back seat after an all nighter only to have the driver wake me up and ask me, "which way, sir".
EK seems to know exactly how much they can give you to keep you here but not one bit more than you need. "Golden Handcuffs".
Flying here is like always flying with an inspector from your home country's aviation authority in the jumpseat just watching you...... always watching you. Always!!
Where I'm from, there is a system of offering criticism in order to fix an ongoing problem that many pilots would be complaining about... for example, the roster disaster this month at EK. Yet at EK, I think most of us feel that if we try to speak up and offer some critique or suggestions even, that we will be told to mind our own business and if you don't ilke it, there's the door! I've actually heard two upper management people say that at various gatherings.... such incompetence here but in spite of that, somehow the place succeeds.
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EK seems to know exactly how much they can give you to keep you here but not one bit more than you need. "Golden Handcuffs".
Flying here is like always flying with an inspector from your home country's aviation authority in the jumpseat just watching you...... always watching you. Always!!
Where I'm from, there is a system of offering criticism in order to fix an ongoing problem that many pilots would be complaining about... for example, the roster disaster this month at EK. Yet at EK, I think most of us feel that if we try to speak up and offer some critique or suggestions even, that we will be told to mind our own business and if you don't ilke it, there's the door! I've actually heard two upper management people say that at various gatherings.... such incompetence here but in spite of that, somehow the place succeeds.
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EK Clinic venting anger?
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For last few days its impossible to contact the clinic (dental) by telephone....
Possibly their reaction to the profit share? When they do answer it's weeks to get an appointment, now it's impossible when they don't answer!
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For last few days its impossible to contact the clinic (dental) by telephone....
Possibly their reaction to the profit share? When they do answer it's weeks to get an appointment, now it's impossible when they don't answer!
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I don't work at EK but just down the road in the neighboring emirate. But from what I know it's pretty much the same.
Take into consideration your villa is fully paid for, utilities are paid for, you get education allowance, full private health care, a tax free salary and job security.
Yes there is a snags, I Agree, there is a few people who are pissed on power and can make work a bit dull, but there is people like that in every company.
At the end of the day you chose to move out here, we love it the family and I, but those that choose to move and then do nothing but complain are stupid, it's a bit like taking a dump on your carpet and complaining of the smell! last time I checked everyone knew where the airport was!
Take into consideration your villa is fully paid for, utilities are paid for, you get education allowance, full private health care, a tax free salary and job security.
Yes there is a snags, I Agree, there is a few people who are pissed on power and can make work a bit dull, but there is people like that in every company.
At the end of the day you chose to move out here, we love it the family and I, but those that choose to move and then do nothing but complain are stupid, it's a bit like taking a dump on your carpet and complaining of the smell! last time I checked everyone knew where the airport was!
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Outlaw, did you not realise what it would be like before you left.
I visited Dubai 2 months ago and stayed with ex work colleagues who are all very happy. Although not perfect by any means, I wanted some first hand experience before applying, because I didn't want to make the move only to then spend all my time complaining on this site because of my own naivety.
Yes I was amazed when I landed in the desert to find......sand. OMG what's happened I thought.
A lot of the things complain about have always been the case haven't they. Has the traffic suddenly become mad? Has it suddenly got much hotter 5 months of the year? When did the culture suddenly become Islamic?
Who mentioned big aircraft? Not me, I was impressed with their relative youth.
You remind me a bit of some of the angry Muslims here who are unhappy living in our culture. The cultures not going to change, so just do yourself a favour and move to somewhere that does suit you
I visited Dubai 2 months ago and stayed with ex work colleagues who are all very happy. Although not perfect by any means, I wanted some first hand experience before applying, because I didn't want to make the move only to then spend all my time complaining on this site because of my own naivety.
Yes I was amazed when I landed in the desert to find......sand. OMG what's happened I thought.
A lot of the things complain about have always been the case haven't they. Has the traffic suddenly become mad? Has it suddenly got much hotter 5 months of the year? When did the culture suddenly become Islamic?
Who mentioned big aircraft? Not me, I was impressed with their relative youth.
You remind me a bit of some of the angry Muslims here who are unhappy living in our culture. The cultures not going to change, so just do yourself a favour and move to somewhere that does suit you
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Yet another 
who doesn't live in Dubai, doesn't work for EK, but is quite willing to dispense advice to those who do. Based on their "friends" who've been in DXB for about five minutes and were thrilled to escape from no doubt some crap lo-co. It's so repetitive it's tiresome.
If you're so convinced it's the greatest, just get on with it already and apply. But go away and quit trying to convince the inmates, it's so obvious that you're just trying to self-justify that you should become one yourself.
Just be aware that there is no "first-hand experience" to be had until you have the resident visa in the passport.
who doesn't live in Dubai, doesn't work for EK, but is quite willing to dispense advice to those who do. Based on their "friends" who've been in DXB for about five minutes and were thrilled to escape from no doubt some crap lo-co. It's so repetitive it's tiresome.If you're so convinced it's the greatest, just get on with it already and apply. But go away and quit trying to convince the inmates, it's so obvious that you're just trying to self-justify that you should become one yourself.
Just be aware that there is no "first-hand experience" to be had until you have the resident visa in the passport.
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One of those friends has been there 14 years
Doesn't matter if they've been here 50 years.
Until you've been here and experienced the day to day living, you just can't know. You can't. You may think you've got a grasp of what it's like, but you don't. And you certainly have no right to come here and tell us how great it all is and how we should move somewhere that does suit us.
Bookmark this page and visit it again when you've lived here at least two years. Then you'll understand why you sounded like a
to the rest of us.....
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I have never said how good it is but merely pointed out how some of the complaints you read as an interested party, sound a little trivial in a world where the markets are causing deep misery.
This is an open forum and I do have the right to post what I think. I ask again, has it suddenly got so bad in Dubai or is this thread just full of people who naively moved to a desert in an Islamic country only to find its not like Sussex?
This is an open forum and I do have the right to post what I think. I ask again, has it suddenly got so bad in Dubai or is this thread just full of people who naively moved to a desert in an Islamic country only to find its not like Sussex?
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This is an open forum and I do have the right to post what I think. I ask again, has it suddenly got so bad in Dubai or is this thread just full of people who naively moved to a desert in an Islamic country only to find its not like Sussex?
Tonker, people are not naive enough to think we live, or at least should be living in the Sussex of the Middle East, far from it in fact. There IS however that small % as there is everywhere who have so little common sense between their ears on a day to day basis that they fail to get the way things work, make of that what you will.
The main reason you are getting stomped on, and quite rightly so, is that you don't live here, you are unable to speak from a position other than as an outsider, so based on those facts you are lacking any shred of credibility.
For me personally this place and job is a pretty good gig, yes there are challenges most of which are self inflicted, but there is also a steady stream of what I would term nefarious communication and regulation that is presented to expats with little or no warning, that can and does have serious ramifications to our day to day existence...the recent mortgage rules being 1 obvious example.
Put all of this together into a bundle and you will find that even the most ardent cheerleader will find their enthusiasm waning at times.
Most of us manage our frustration through the medium of moaning and trips to the pool or golf club...but it's 46C outside right now, so that rules out the golf.
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I am living a pretty good life here;
Life in Dubai.... its definitely what you make it
1) Cheap Golf Club membership (and yes I still play in the summer, and I particularly enjoy a pint on the 19th in the swimming pool)
2) Affordable boating
3) Access to all sorts of activities
4) I live walking distance from a number of bars and restaurants, most of which I receive some form of discount via Emirates Platinum or EPC
5) If I am enjoying a few beers, I can arrange for someone to drive me home, or taking a taxi is always affordable
6) The EPC clubs, which my wife and I use 2-3 times / week
7) Cheap Cars/Gas/Car Maintenance
8) I am not sure if this is good or bad .... but my wife loves the malls, and to do all her fancy salon stuff costs a 1/4 of what it did in Aus
EK
1) Job security
2) Always paid on-time
3) Well maintained aircraft
4) Staff travel is good (but our cousins down the road have it even better!)
5) Good Network (380/777...)
6) Time to command
Please don't get me wrong, there are many challenges associated with both, hence the definite need for the not so good things thread also. It also seems as though there are just so many cost-free things that could be changed to make things so much better, which can be somewhat frustrating, a thread along those lines might be interesting?
Life in Dubai.... its definitely what you make it
1) Cheap Golf Club membership (and yes I still play in the summer, and I particularly enjoy a pint on the 19th in the swimming pool)
2) Affordable boating
3) Access to all sorts of activities
4) I live walking distance from a number of bars and restaurants, most of which I receive some form of discount via Emirates Platinum or EPC
5) If I am enjoying a few beers, I can arrange for someone to drive me home, or taking a taxi is always affordable
6) The EPC clubs, which my wife and I use 2-3 times / week
7) Cheap Cars/Gas/Car Maintenance
8) I am not sure if this is good or bad .... but my wife loves the malls, and to do all her fancy salon stuff costs a 1/4 of what it did in Aus
EK
1) Job security
2) Always paid on-time
3) Well maintained aircraft
4) Staff travel is good (but our cousins down the road have it even better!)
5) Good Network (380/777...)
6) Time to command
Please don't get me wrong, there are many challenges associated with both, hence the definite need for the not so good things thread also. It also seems as though there are just so many cost-free things that could be changed to make things so much better, which can be somewhat frustrating, a thread along those lines might be interesting?