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Old 2nd Oct 2012, 10:04
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Welcome to THY

Danishpilot80 & Jack-the-Skipper

Good luck in your careers chaps; now that THY offers permanent contracts, you will retire as a F/O's with as you will enter a foreign seniority list, and never progress into Command. After all it is a job and pay is always on time; One great benefit for F/O's in this country is that in Turkey they call you "Kaptain", except if you are the third wheel for which there is a box on the flight plan called "First Officer", after "Captain" and "Commander". Some of the former foreigner and local F/O's went for looking for jobs elsewhere with "Kaptain" credentials, and were offered direct entry Captain position.
A local university graduate is picked by THY to join as First Officer after they pay his training for two years to make him a pilot with total time of 240hrs. They call this blokes "Captain" this and that, and sometimes addressed by cleaners and technicians as "Hojam", meaning "master", so feel free to ask any questions on your interview, and make no mistake, you will be "Kaptains" from day one!
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Old 8th Oct 2012, 11:06
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Hi There,

Just been to an assessment with THY. We been about 14 guy, all freom europen Airlines among the candidates TRI and TRE etc.
We all failed! Jet it is not really clear to us why? But the whole selection process seemed very strange.
In particular that psychiatrist seemed to be very spezial to say the least.

We do not understand what she was looking for? It all seemed very strange. I mean you would expect that just one of us is normal an would fit into THY. But no, no one passed. Having said that, bare in mind that all the guys had more then ten year of flying under their belt and some of them in senior training positions!

I would think twice before going for THY.
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Old 12th Oct 2012, 01:33
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been away for a while,,, can ayone tell me who or how to apply to THY or do we still have to go thru pesky agencies who never reply?

Only respectful and positive replies please
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Old 14th Oct 2012, 04:23
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Not sure if you can apply direct FlyDog but yes the agencies seem to be on the
lookout. seeing the replies above better go in and act like a loon
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Old 14th Oct 2012, 05:31
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Flydog. you have to mail Sigma Aviation and they reply for sure. Don't Know what happened with that psy That day but many are happy with THY.
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Old 17th Oct 2012, 17:16
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Hi all,

Just quick question about the recruitment procedure. I passed or was given the verbal "pass" at my assessment last week with THY. Of 12 guys, we were only 2 remaining. But mostly people failed at the sim, not the Psychological or english test.

Anyway, I emailed Parc, today, and they said that the final decison would be taken by THY board of directors before sending me an offer letter.
This means, that even if you pass all the assessment, you're still pending to the board's decision.
Has anyone been through this thing before? Is it possible that they might not hire you after all this selection process, even if you were successful?

If anyone has some info or feedback, feel free to shoot.

Thanks and good luck to all waiting for assessments
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Old 17th Oct 2012, 18:26
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Hi flyer79, not to discourage you, but screening in THY seem all too very strange and unpredictable. Best of luck.
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Old 18th Oct 2012, 04:15
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I know mostly pilots are pissed here. Let me give you an idea of a non pilot exp but work closely with pilots. For English exams which Turkish civil aviation requested recently, a guy who can't speak a word of it able to get the min mark required by civil aviation. I can't figure out how that's possible.

The best part at the start of the exam all instructions were given in Turkish in which they are testing your English.this **** is the best I ever seen in any part of the world.

They really beat the world set a mark whereby everyone passes which beat the purpose.
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Old 20th Oct 2012, 10:21
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As to all the pilots failing the psych., exam....perhaps the psychologist has it right. You must be a little "crazy" to want to come fly with THY. Saving you from yourself. Hey only kidding, I think.
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Old 20th Oct 2012, 10:43
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Lots of Pilots still applying to THY, screening failure rate at and over 90%, why are Pilots still applying to Turkish airlines when time could be used in a more usefull manner with other airlines?
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Old 20th Oct 2012, 10:50
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Because some of them get the job
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Old 20th Oct 2012, 10:57
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Pilots with JAR licenses are still applying cause they are desperate. Job outlook worldwide is still bleak !

Also Istanbul is close to most major European hubs so commuting within the EU is easy. That's another reason why people apply. THY has a good PR department with lots of cash spent on publicity , makes them look like a decent outfit.

Well THY is probably a decent outfit. it just sucks when you're treated unfairly because you're a foreigner.

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Old 21st Oct 2012, 11:55
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Any positive advise for my interview next month, please? I need some more motivation for NG Captain's position with THY......
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Old 23rd Oct 2012, 12:16
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THY selection

Hi eagle 737,

From your location, I'm betting you must be coming from Jet Airways. Am I wrong? lol
I've seen many of your colleagues down there when I did my assessment. Some had already started others still on waiting list.

There's not much I can tell you that would help you. I asked the same questions on that forum and other nice guys (they will recokgnize themselves) came to rescue me by feedbacking me in PM.

Day 1: psycho. Be assertive, and do not hesitate to speak up your ideas. There will be camera recording you.
Try to work with the group during the exercice. Because you're a captain, they might also be looking for leadership. At the end just be yourself. All these psycho tests (and i have done many in my career) are all strange, unoredictable and even probably inaccurate, because they don't show you in real life situation. So if they wanna pass you, they will, otherwise....nothing you can do about.

Day2: English. Just read on the screen and also explain situation, after being shown a picture. Not very tough, althoug, on british lady in my group failed it.....!!!!! Strange.

Day3: Sim. For the 737, it's ISTANBULbut study also ANKARA (never know). 2 engines raw data, followed by ILS raw data, strong crosswind and Go Around.

Then N-1, with FD, but no QRH actions to read and complete.
Single engine manual circuit. (I found that one hard).

I must say that the sim has terminated many guy's hope in the group. This is where they sacked half of the guys.

Good luck to you.
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Old 23rd Oct 2012, 12:44
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I must add that sim profile won't be the same always and for everyone. Mine was more or less as our colleague said before, but all the session was performed in raw data.
Climb straight to 5000', then left descending... etc etc etc You end up in a final vector for the ILS raw data procedure (same rwy you took off before in IST).
Be careful, if they want you to go around they won't tell you Go Around, as if they were ATC. For me, they putted a f 747 in the rwy. Yes, a Jumbo is a big guy but flying down to minimums, going out of clouds and having a **** of visual in the sim... it is hard to see it. Pay attention to the strobe lights, will really help.

And thats it. Nothing more to add.

Do you need positive feedback to be sure to join the airline? Don't know much about Captain position conditions but for FOs salary is probably the highest available in the market now (not talking about EK, EY, QR...) and I remark AVAILABLE.
Don't come here guys and tell me that BA or AF guys are having much better salaries because these companies aren't hiring, right?

Good luck!

Any more info needed just send me PM. I'm joining the company soon, will be able to give you more accurate feedback in a couple of weeks.

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Old 5th Nov 2012, 08:48
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ICAO LICENSES

Informations for all ,
ICAO Licenses are not going to be accepted by the GCAA in future and all whare currently in THY will not have their validations renewed as of now, first leaving early December, this will afect almost 100 forein pilots curently working for them.
Management in chaos, nothing new you say, we'll its easily solved.

cadets and Kabin Pursers CAPT😂KAPTAN and Kabin Chiefs to Kaptan and fly the rest 150 hours a month and cancel all days off and leave for Forein pilots.
Cancel all simulator training doesn't exist anyhow.

LOL
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Old 5th Nov 2012, 21:19
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Could you please translate your post?

Cheers!
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Old 6th Nov 2012, 06:31
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Otto..
What level of English do YOU have on your license?

I think the real news is the cooperation between Lufthansa and Turkish. Not some administrative clerk bulletin regards licensing.
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Old 6th Nov 2012, 12:07
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Grrr

So nothing has changed
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Old 6th Nov 2012, 12:26
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Turkey is JAA and therefore will become EASA.
....are you really shure ???
I have my doubts that there will be an automatic changeover from JAA to EASA membership.
Turkey - GodThanks - afaik is not EASA yet.

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