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Well, from my group of around 20 we went in 16 so... Sorry to hear that you did not.
I have a doubt, you talk about the sim. As you know, to get to the sim you need to have the OK from the english test and the HTA (psychologist, 5 hours... pretty hard as you said). So, I assume that if you were kicked out of the procedure after the sim was because of the sim. Simple.
I have a close friend that failed this week after the HTA, he was not able to attend the sim as he was told to go home after the HTA. So, what is your point? You blame only the HR representative and the psychologist because of the HTA but apparently you did not pass the sim, which is another thing.
Just curious.
I have a doubt, you talk about the sim. As you know, to get to the sim you need to have the OK from the english test and the HTA (psychologist, 5 hours... pretty hard as you said). So, I assume that if you were kicked out of the procedure after the sim was because of the sim. Simple.
I have a close friend that failed this week after the HTA, he was not able to attend the sim as he was told to go home after the HTA. So, what is your point? You blame only the HR representative and the psychologist because of the HTA but apparently you did not pass the sim, which is another thing.
Just curious.
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No I don't, as I don't think that you all missed the HTA. You know, my opinion is that they found the good number of pilots and now they're just wasting peoples time.
But it makes sense to advise people that you can easily fail the HTA or the sim even if you feel you did it ok.
Good luck!
But it makes sense to advise people that you can easily fail the HTA or the sim even if you feel you did it ok.
Good luck!
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Hi,
Can anyone give us some feedback about this HTA test they are conducting? Where to study? Can you find something similar on internet? (can you buy it)
Also the sim check. I am flying 737NG, so anyone who passed or not the screening, can please share feedback.
I haven't got any job, and would work for them, I've been in much ****ty place in the world. Believe me, it does exist.
Thanx
Can anyone give us some feedback about this HTA test they are conducting? Where to study? Can you find something similar on internet? (can you buy it)
Also the sim check. I am flying 737NG, so anyone who passed or not the screening, can please share feedback.
I haven't got any job, and would work for them, I've been in much ****ty place in the world. Believe me, it does exist.
Thanx
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Working groups of employees to share their problems, as well as conflict resolution, team work are carried out to improve production efficiency.
You may not have made it if you answered 'yes' to the following Q? :
1. Are you a professional pilot? yes
2. Is your English level 4 or more? yes
3. Days Off are to rest, they are not negotiable? yes
4. Do you like freedom of speech? yes
5. I never admired soldiers since I was a child? yes
6. Do you support Armenian genocide? yes
9. Do you believe in Cyprus occupation in 1974? yes
From a team of 22 pilots on 320-330, no one was successful.
Is it just a coincidence?
Stay away from this crap.
Alliance, maybe, star? No way!
A bag full of s@it. - Quoted from a brilliant candidate!
You may not have made it if you answered 'yes' to the following Q? :
1. Are you a professional pilot? yes
2. Is your English level 4 or more? yes
3. Days Off are to rest, they are not negotiable? yes
4. Do you like freedom of speech? yes
5. I never admired soldiers since I was a child? yes
6. Do you support Armenian genocide? yes
9. Do you believe in Cyprus occupation in 1974? yes
From a team of 22 pilots on 320-330, no one was successful.
Is it just a coincidence?
Stay away from this crap.
Alliance, maybe, star? No way!
A bag full of s@it. - Quoted from a brilliant candidate!
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Some around 14 posts and ALL talking about THY or Turkey.
None aviation related, technical or "constructing" info, just kicking Turkish asses.
Problem with them? Explain us, get over it and move to the next thing.
We all appreciated your info, we will refuse any THY employment offer and stay at home, sure the apartment and bills will be payed by themselves.
Thank you again.
Some around 14 posts and ALL talking about THY or Turkey.
None aviation related, technical or "constructing" info, just kicking Turkish asses.
Problem with them? Explain us, get over it and move to the next thing.
We all appreciated your info, we will refuse any THY employment offer and stay at home, sure the apartment and bills will be payed by themselves.
Thank you again.
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Well said Archer,
If I like it or not, it's my problem and opinion. As Archer said, bills won't pay themeselves. There are ****tier place in the world, believe me. If you expecting Emirates level of life, than that's not the place to apply for. I'm sorry that you failed the exercice, but get over it.
Thanx anyway guys for your feedback guys and wish you all, the best.
If I like it or not, it's my problem and opinion. As Archer said, bills won't pay themeselves. There are ****tier place in the world, believe me. If you expecting Emirates level of life, than that's not the place to apply for. I'm sorry that you failed the exercice, but get over it.
Thanx anyway guys for your feedback guys and wish you all, the best.
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""But it makes sense to advise people that you can easily fail the HTA or the sim even if you feel you did it ok.""
Good luck!
Ohh Archer_737, I do not not what to do with you, and your desperate need for a job,
but hope my comment below help your self-esteem:
It sure does take a big toll in our lives to be outta of job. However, I think adversity is a way to examine our past, to an open door for opportunity.
My point with previous threads is simple: THY, and other Turkish airliners pilot recruitment need to concentrate not on HTA or SIM, but the cultural differences any foreigner will face here; They already know you have a bag of experience to have been called out on the first place, but want to ascertain you fit in the system, which is nothing but xenophobic.
Maybe an illustration may help: The foreign force at THY reached about 447 pilots as of May 2011. As of May/2012 the company lost 147 foreign pilots, more than 25% of the force. The CEO invited back in April/2012 a group of yabanci pilots to officially offer a series of concessions to anyone who had survived over three years of contractual employment; Shortly thereafter all Fleet Managers invited all foreigners to participate in inviting their colleagues to join THY despite their tarnished image worldwide as verified on this website. The turn out was minimal if not in absentia.
Some of this pilots came out of this meeting very happy, very optimistic, to find out this meeting chaired by the CEO & COO of the company was nothing but a charade of lies and deception. Those foreigners who worked at THY more than three years were taken away from the official seniority list, since year 2011 on a move from flight operations in retaliation for the comments made in a Danish newspaper. Over seven (7) Scandinavian pilots resigned from THY based on the poor or non existent level of English language, still pervading as mediocre among management and senior Turkish pilots who have gotten away with it for over 20 years of service. THY & DGCA imposed most recently English exams as a result of this scandal. The victims? Foreign pilots who are still here working their ass for a stable job, but who are lied to, while they need them. The fact of the matter is, THY without foreign pilots means the English Levels would revert to 2 or below. Turkish pilots are simply opportunist who use our abilities to enhance THY reputation. (See the thread on YouTube of a B777 flight from IST/NRT. -none of the pilots on that flight were of Turkish Nationality, they may have been an embarrassment to the "Globally yours concept")
End of May 2012, Foreign pilots were also caught in the middle of a battle between Ankara-THY and Hava-is, in which the only objective was to destroy the pilot union. THY is the only airline with a pilot union in Turkey, the other airliners forbid that right and you can be jailed or lose your employment permit if found guilty. Two courageous Captains dared to appear on local T.V supporting the Union claims, and they were served termination by SMS, without parole.
International Transport Workers' Federation: Reinstate the 305 at Turkish Airlines
If this is the case with THY pilots, imagine the rest??
So, if you so desire a job here, beware of the martial law, a life in solitude and confined to be a retarded soldier routine or else face the sack. If you fit this job description, go for it, just avoid farting in public, or showing your dick in a Turkish hamam; you may end being arrested for terrorism or demeaning Islam .
Good luck!
Ohh Archer_737, I do not not what to do with you, and your desperate need for a job,
but hope my comment below help your self-esteem:It sure does take a big toll in our lives to be outta of job. However, I think adversity is a way to examine our past, to an open door for opportunity.
My point with previous threads is simple: THY, and other Turkish airliners pilot recruitment need to concentrate not on HTA or SIM, but the cultural differences any foreigner will face here; They already know you have a bag of experience to have been called out on the first place, but want to ascertain you fit in the system, which is nothing but xenophobic.
Maybe an illustration may help: The foreign force at THY reached about 447 pilots as of May 2011. As of May/2012 the company lost 147 foreign pilots, more than 25% of the force. The CEO invited back in April/2012 a group of yabanci pilots to officially offer a series of concessions to anyone who had survived over three years of contractual employment; Shortly thereafter all Fleet Managers invited all foreigners to participate in inviting their colleagues to join THY despite their tarnished image worldwide as verified on this website. The turn out was minimal if not in absentia.
Some of this pilots came out of this meeting very happy, very optimistic, to find out this meeting chaired by the CEO & COO of the company was nothing but a charade of lies and deception. Those foreigners who worked at THY more than three years were taken away from the official seniority list, since year 2011 on a move from flight operations in retaliation for the comments made in a Danish newspaper. Over seven (7) Scandinavian pilots resigned from THY based on the poor or non existent level of English language, still pervading as mediocre among management and senior Turkish pilots who have gotten away with it for over 20 years of service. THY & DGCA imposed most recently English exams as a result of this scandal. The victims? Foreign pilots who are still here working their ass for a stable job, but who are lied to, while they need them. The fact of the matter is, THY without foreign pilots means the English Levels would revert to 2 or below. Turkish pilots are simply opportunist who use our abilities to enhance THY reputation. (See the thread on YouTube of a B777 flight from IST/NRT. -none of the pilots on that flight were of Turkish Nationality, they may have been an embarrassment to the "Globally yours concept")
End of May 2012, Foreign pilots were also caught in the middle of a battle between Ankara-THY and Hava-is, in which the only objective was to destroy the pilot union. THY is the only airline with a pilot union in Turkey, the other airliners forbid that right and you can be jailed or lose your employment permit if found guilty. Two courageous Captains dared to appear on local T.V supporting the Union claims, and they were served termination by SMS, without parole.
International Transport Workers' Federation: Reinstate the 305 at Turkish AirlinesIf this is the case with THY pilots, imagine the rest??
So, if you so desire a job here, beware of the martial law, a life in solitude and confined to be a retarded soldier routine or else face the sack. If you fit this job description, go for it, just avoid farting in public, or showing your dick in a Turkish hamam; you may end being arrested for terrorism or demeaning Islam .
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Thank you very much again for your advise. I promise I'm calling right now the guys from THY and telling them that I am staying at home, promised!
Btw, would like to agree with you with my "desperate need for a job". Unfortunately I am from those who has to work for money, yes still some people like that in the world. Damn bastards!!
Thank you very much again for your advise. I promise I'm calling right now the guys from THY and telling them that I am staying at home, promised!
Btw, would like to agree with you with my "desperate need for a job". Unfortunately I am from those who has to work for money, yes still some people like that in the world. Damn bastards!!
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And, just to add.
It is funny to see a self called "dignified" (synonym of "honorable") kidding about the unemployment of a colleague.
Speaks volumes about your human touch. Maybe not only the Turkish must reflect on their behavior.
It is funny to see a self called "dignified" (synonym of "honorable") kidding about the unemployment of a colleague.
Speaks volumes about your human touch. Maybe not only the Turkish must reflect on their behavior.
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