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Old 28th Feb 2015, 08:56
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Pizzaguy..before committing to THY consider the following

1) Salary is 8700 euro plus 600 for accommodation or hotel in lieu. No other benefit if not a private medical insurance with no dental coverage and a ridiclous loss of licence ( 100K USD) .Bringing your family there is a no go. Education is extremely expensive, housing in decent area will not be below 1500 euro car extremly expensive ( 180%++ tax )
2) Yo will fly 4 ER flights separated by 48 hours rest. You will have 7 days block off days and the rest will be filled by home stby and reserves.
3) Turkish Lira has lost 30% of its value and almost 40% against the dollar. The geopolitical situation is not comforting ( a few bombs and suicide bombers) and an increasingly authoritarian regime are not really projecting a positive light. The upcoming election could be another set back for the currency.
4) In THY there is peculiar pilot classification. As a new joiner you will be given a C2 status that would mean you will fly as FO on left seat. Once you will get a C1 status you will still be assigned flight with other local C1 and guess who will be commander again Often they will scare the **** out of you....I remember the stories I was told..
5) THY is NOT and expat airlines. They are just filling seats. The contract is permanent as long as they renew you work permit ( every year) and there is already a quota system imposed by the local ( joke) DGAC of 10% expat max.THY is at the moment exempted but nobody knows until when. They are just pure opportunists.
On narrow body sleets the situation is close to slavery.90 plus hours, no commuting, no benefits, max 4 days off often after a late finish and before an early start just after midnight to some very dodgy destination. I would think twice to leave a job anywhere else to join that circus...on any fleet but if you really desperate...
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Old 4th Mar 2015, 05:03
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I see TK have put one in the grass at Kathmandu.

Turkish A330 suffers nose gear collapse in Kathmandu - 3/4/2015 - Flight Global

Busted minima? The viz looks poor, and I don't recall any CAT II/III installation there.
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Old 5th Mar 2015, 06:03
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Would have been an unmitigated disaster had they not had degrees!
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Old 5th Mar 2015, 08:30
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THY look as if they were thankfully very lucky indeed at Kathmandu not to add to this horrific list of about one fatal crash every five years or so...
Turkish Airlines plane crashes since 1970
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Old 5th Mar 2015, 09:12
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Borajet...

The surprising thing is that Borajet is as far as I know flying wet lease for THY..and still, even if it is a one year contract (but seen the lack of pilot in Turkey we can assume it will much longer than that) they offer better conditions than their lessee..housing, transportation and block off days...apparently ..pretty weir.!

CAE Parc Aviation on behalf of our client Borajet are seeking Embraer 190 E-Jet Captains

Duration: 12 months renewable
Base: Adana/Ankara/Istanbul - TBC
Roster Pattern: 9 days off per month
Screening dates and location: February, March and April 2015 - Istanbul
Commencement Date: ASAP
Accommodation provided / Ground transportation provided: Yes

Total time: Minimum of 4000 hours total time
PIC time on type: Minimum of 1.000 hours Pilot in Command on jet aircraft over 27,000kg
Time on type: 1,000 hours PIC on any Embraer E-Jet type

Licence: ICAO/JAA/FAA - All licences accepted
English language proficiency level: Minimum ICAO level 4
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Old 5th Mar 2015, 11:23
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Bob, what is the salary at Borajet?

Most probably it's as always, they start ops with a new type and need backup from outside. Once there are enough locals to fill the seats, I'll leave the guessing of what till happen regarding your renewal to other people
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Old 11th Mar 2015, 13:29
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Turkish B777 Captain pay around 21000 / month , turkish lira.
Using todays currency rates that equals
5400 7440

There is a 5% nominal tax rate.

So, possibly the industrys lowest pay for type rated 777 pilots ?

A few years ago it was divide by 2.5 to the . Today its around 4. Go figure.
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Old 12th Mar 2015, 09:24
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Turkish ATPL

Does anybody knows how to convert my ICAO ATPL into Turkish ATPL.

Thanks
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Old 15th Mar 2015, 00:37
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Anyone please have an idea about TRTO for NTR 777

I am waiting to be asigned the TRTO for the 777 Does anybody have an idea about cost and place to be considered?
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Old 15th Mar 2015, 07:01
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Do I hear again somebody paying for his type rating, but now not even knowing how much? This isn't real, is it?
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Old 15th Mar 2015, 14:43
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Turkish B777 Captain pay around 21000 / month , turkish lira.
Using todays currency rates that equals
5400 7440

There is a 5% nominal tax rate.

So, possibly the industrys lowest pay for type rated 777 pilots ?

A few years ago it was divide by 2.5 to the . Today its around 4. Go figure
Money isn't everything.

Paid accomodation, nice roster, commuting contract and 3hrs from western Europe with tickets paid home with plenty of block days off is not a too shabby deal.

Of course you could make a few grand more in the sandpit with back to back long haul, your normal off days being considered as annual leave and being 8hrs away from home with difficulties getting on the plane on a standby-ticket due to the huge amount of foreigners trying to commute.

The 737 gig however, is a different story.
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Old 15th Mar 2015, 14:54
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It looks like a shocking and awful deal to me. That's a relatively Junior F/O salary not an experienced 777 captain salary.
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Old 15th Mar 2015, 15:42
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I thoroughly investigated the contract and I have friends there.. not for long. Paid accommodation is an hotel room you have to vacate every flight or 2000 lira which would not rent you anything better than a 1 bedroom (may be not even that) in a decent neighborhood. The "plentitude" of days of is 7 plus traveling. This for wodebody on narrow body... just **** and horrible rosters.
Add to this a mere 20 day of leave, deduction fo rm salary if you get sick ( if they don't fire you for "insufficient performance ) and last but not least that you will be flying as an FO in left seat and here it goes your fantastic deal. Beside with the USD at par with Euro you make almost double the money in the Gulf.. Heard more and more pay to fly FO CPT joining... does that can..are going elsewhere..and many many are leaving. I think is time to offer a better deal...or no way they will ever find the people they say they need.
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Old 15th Mar 2015, 16:48
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Surely thats basic pay ,no?
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Commission to review competition from Gulf-based airlines | EurActiv

How about Turkish Airlines and state aids?
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Old 30th Mar 2015, 13:59
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How is that this thread got so silent? Is THY out of the radar?

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Old 30th Mar 2015, 14:31
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The not so good impression made on hundreds of former expat employee is kind of hitting back.. not many applicants I heard..struggling to recruit if not P2F.. heard they had to start upgrading expat as they are really really desperate...and that says it all. Good luck to them..just wonder how they will be abused in the process..
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Old 4th Apr 2015, 01:15
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Hi.

Does anyone know if they call pilots with 1100h more less (200h piston and 900h light jets) and also with university degree?

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Old 5th Apr 2015, 19:22
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Just a very brief update:

The Cpt. upgrade without university degree is a ponzi scheme.
6500H. Guess whos gonna be in front of you concerning the seniority.
U? or the locals...

NO more upgrades for foreign FOs from 737 to 777.

I presume "career progress" is not the right word....

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Old 5th Apr 2015, 20:25
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Never seen or heard of a Yabanci FO being upgraded on any fleet to Captain, so don't worry about seniority list..Regarding 777 , still moving foreigners over from 737 and some new guys are coming directly to 777. University degree thing has been done to death on this forum, nothing new there. What has changed is ex military guys can get upgrade 3 years after LPC date, so " fast track" for them. 6500 hrs is only 6.5 years, not long in the industry to become a Captain compared with other airlines circa 10/12 years.
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