Saudia
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From: In the torpedo tube above!
I Would tend to COMPLETELY agree with that statement !!
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From: california
This China group thing (good idea in theory) won't work. The Chinese have too many legal restrictions on Pilots e.g. they won't hire Malaysian Pilots, they won't hire African Pilots or Pilots born in Africa. The medical screening is extremely complicated. The simulator screening is also very tricky and designed to fail a very high percentage. China is very much an individual thing, it works very well for a few but for the vast majority it doesn't work. It is for this reason that wages are pushed so high in China as Airlines compete for the very few Pilots who can make it work.
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From: Sand Pitt
Gulf Air did this kind of thing in the past, getting rid of expats in a frenzy, paying huge compensations in the process. A few months later they started cancelling leave and a couple of months later they started hiring expats again.
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From: Somewhere near an Airport
There is a meeting coming up in RUH compound to address issues with expats, GM F and COO are gona be present. With not many takers for RUH base(amongst locals), they are afraid that there will be a mass exodus. Fact is that they need us.
Especially with their herculean training regime. IMHO expats are here for a while and its going to be hard for them to get rid of them completely.
Especially with their herculean training regime. IMHO expats are here for a while and its going to be hard for them to get rid of them completely.
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From: california
There is a meeting coming up in RUH compound to address issues with expats, GM F and COO are gona be present. With not many takers for RUH base(amongst locals), they are afraid that there will be a mass exodus. Fact is that they need us.
Especially with their herculean training regime. IMHO expats are here for a while and its going to be hard for them to get rid of them completely.
Especially with their herculean training regime. IMHO expats are here for a while and its going to be hard for them to get rid of them completely.
Joined: Sep 2015
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From: North
I recently saw some recruitment that is going on for Air Atlanta 747 SO Jeddah based. So this is primarily for the Saudia operations.
does anyone have some info regarding this SO position? TR bonding, salary, rostering etc?
And how is the mood there? I read that a lot of people are leaving saudia, is this the same for Atlanta?
does anyone have some info regarding this SO position? TR bonding, salary, rostering etc?
And how is the mood there? I read that a lot of people are leaving saudia, is this the same for Atlanta?
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From: ME
Read the clauses on contract termination. It can be terminated without cause at any time with four months notice.
I was chatting to a GM last night who will be massively affected by the huge crew losses, he was oblivious to the fact that so many had resigned. He was also of the impression that crews would love Riyadh once they moved there, I asked him how many of his staff would resign if they were moved to Riyadh, once he thought of that he changed the subject.
With the opening of the new terminal and the planned increase in operations, the loss of 160 mainly Captains plus the annual retirements, next summer looks as if it will be a unmitigated disaster.
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From: Phoenix, AZ
That was always there, so nothing has changed in the written form. However the "caring employer" is no more.
I was chatting to a GM last night who will be massively affected by the huge crew losses, he was oblivious to the fact that so many had resigned. He was also of the impression that crews would love Riyadh once they moved there, I asked him how many of his staff would resign if they were moved to Riyadh, once he thought of that he changed the subject.
With the opening of the new terminal and the planned increase in operations, the loss of 160 mainly Captains plus the annual retirements, next summer looks as if it will be a unmitigated disaster.
I was chatting to a GM last night who will be massively affected by the huge crew losses, he was oblivious to the fact that so many had resigned. He was also of the impression that crews would love Riyadh once they moved there, I asked him how many of his staff would resign if they were moved to Riyadh, once he thought of that he changed the subject.
With the opening of the new terminal and the planned increase in operations, the loss of 160 mainly Captains plus the annual retirements, next summer looks as if it will be a unmitigated disaster.
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From: Somewhere near an Airport
Don’t be fooled by the two year contract. The two year term means very little.
Read the clauses on contract termination. It can be terminated without cause at any time with four months notice.
Consequently, how’s that going to be any different than the six month contract recently offered? Even with the two year term they can have you out of the door with just four months notice.
Don’t delude yourselves. Flight Operations have telegraphed their true intentions towards the expat Flight Deck Crew by the “couldn’t care less” approach they’ve recently shown by forcing RUH base without choice and with total disregard, almost contempt, for expat’s family life, schooling obligations for the kids, etc,etc.
Well, I say they can go f**k themselves! They deserve what’s coming their way!
Read the clauses on contract termination. It can be terminated without cause at any time with four months notice.
Consequently, how’s that going to be any different than the six month contract recently offered? Even with the two year term they can have you out of the door with just four months notice.
Don’t delude yourselves. Flight Operations have telegraphed their true intentions towards the expat Flight Deck Crew by the “couldn’t care less” approach they’ve recently shown by forcing RUH base without choice and with total disregard, almost contempt, for expat’s family life, schooling obligations for the kids, etc,etc.
Well, I say they can go f**k themselves! They deserve what’s coming their way!
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From: Surrounded by aluminum, and the great outdoors
passing the training make it ok?