Saudia
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From: Marriott
The Flyadeal fleet is not considered in that 200 either. Obviously it is impossible. They have managed to enlarge the fleet from 121 to about 138 (currently operating) aircraft since 2013. That's with the training center at full capacity and using expats that take half the training time.
They currently have sufficient Saudi's to crew 108 aircraft. How can you increase that number by 92 aircraft in 2 years? Sorry, I forgot, drag cadets in off the street, that'll resolve the problem.
They currently have sufficient Saudi's to crew 108 aircraft. How can you increase that number by 92 aircraft in 2 years? Sorry, I forgot, drag cadets in off the street, that'll resolve the problem.
If true, are this 30 to add or replace the fleet???
Any option SV will open for expact DEC B777 20/10 roster in the next year due this 30 aircraft??
On 20/10 roster is school allowance ovearseas available?
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From: california
I heard tha SV just got 30 777-300ER options from EK. Any inside info????
If true, are this 30 to add or replace the fleet???
Any option SV will open for expact DEC B777 20/10 roster in the next year due this 30 aircraft??
On 20/10 roster is school allowance ovearseas available?
If true, are this 30 to add or replace the fleet???
Any option SV will open for expact DEC B777 20/10 roster in the next year due this 30 aircraft??
On 20/10 roster is school allowance ovearseas available?
They don't want to hire foreign pilots though. For your questions to be answered in the affirmative, they'll have to be very short.
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From: Somewhere near an Airport
May be they'll start hiring after the 30th 777 joins the fleet.
77 Sims are only used for recurrent training, there is no intial training happening now.
But as of now, I don't think they are making use of all the 77s.
77 Sims are only used for recurrent training, there is no intial training happening now.
But as of now, I don't think they are making use of all the 77s.
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From: Middle East
They have not hired expats for almost two years, so no change there.
As for salary reduction, they are short on all equipment. Highly unlikely to reduce salary in the middle of shortages.
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I wish I am wrong. I flew to Manila with one of the managers and is true. Actually, they don’t know what they are doing. No plan. But yes, with this situation of shortage what makes sense is hire and raise salaries. But........you know how this works. I hope I am wrong
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Any updates on the pay review? Anyone ?
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From: california
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WHY would anyone in their right sane mind even consider going to an airline operation based in Saudi Arabia (KSA), when there are so many airlines around the world recruiting onto Airbus and Boeings. You have to be nuts to go there for a job in the Saudi desert, unless of course you´re currently flying for an Indonesian or Philippino one and you get a pay (only) increase. Wow. Just wondering? Why? Because Saudi is such an awesome and interesting country to live in? Just curious what drives people to consider this option. Cheers.
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Because Saudi is such an awesome and interesting country to live in?
Actually if you get outside, it is an awesome and interesting country to live in.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/travel/t...tructures.html
Actually if you get outside, it is an awesome and interesting country to live in.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/travel/t...tructures.html
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Because Saudi is such an awesome and interesting country to live in?
Actually if you get outside, it is an awesome and interesting country to live in.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/travel/t...tructures.html
Actually if you get outside, it is an awesome and interesting country to live in.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/travel/t...tructures.html
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From: Middle East
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From: Somewhere near an Airport
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Have you seen the number of Saudi Nationals that are newly released or currently in trg?
30+ KSA national RUH based FO's are on their way to 330 transition.
The writing was on the wall for the past year concerning the expat FO's....
30+ KSA national RUH based FO's are on their way to 330 transition.
The writing was on the wall for the past year concerning the expat FO's....
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From: california
They are upgrading a large number of local F/O's and replacing those F/O's at a slower rate with cadets. That indicates that they still require the expat F/O's. Currently however, management believes utilisation to be poor relative to industry standard, that means that there is some slack in the system allowing for a number of expat F/O's to be released. With substantial growth however, that is unlikely to continue.
In my opinion they're a little like the Chinese, they don't want foreign Pilots but they need foreign Pilots. You have factions within management and government (exactly like China). There are those who understand the need for foreign Pilots and the those who want to remove foreign Pilots at any cost.
Last edited by polax52; 26th March 2019 at 20:59.
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Just to add that they are upgrading F/O's to Captains in the path of cadets who are receiving minimal training by industry standards.
This may not continue.
This may not continue.
Last edited by polax52; 26th March 2019 at 20:59.