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Old 10th Aug 2017, 16:52
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Originally Posted by mutt View Post
Its free
Staff travel with SV is quite expensive, sure ACM is free but at the risk of being abused and mistreated by some supervisors. My experience is to travel using ZED, you can enjoy a glass of wine on business class and being treated with some decency and respect.... And don't need to dress like a clown.
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Old 11th Aug 2017, 10:21
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My experience is traveling First Class on a term pass
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Old 11th Aug 2017, 15:06
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Term Pass is GOLD it almost makes up for all the years put in. I gave up on ACM the last few years before term pass kicked in.
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Old 12th Aug 2017, 13:02
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ACM v/s Term pass.
Apples and Oranges
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Old 12th Aug 2017, 14:04
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Originally Posted by atila_101 View Post
Staff travel with SV is quite expensive, sure ACM is free but at the risk of being abused and mistreated by some supervisors. My experience is to travel using ZED, you can enjoy a glass of wine on business class and being treated with some decency and respect.... And don't need to dress like a clown.
I second. For new joiners yeah. Not for ten year old veterans.
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Old 12th Aug 2017, 17:49
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@ Mutt

After 5 years Qatar im now in Saudi , and I like it more.
Guess were from the same Homeland,where Merkel is the Boss.
Cheers
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Old 18th Aug 2017, 22:40
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I bet, QR has its own share of scary stories. We have a lot of ex qataris.
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Old 19th Aug 2017, 02:14
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Guess were from the same Homeland,where Merkel is the Boss.
Nope not me, I have my licenses and I'm sitting in a seat for which I'm qualified, unlike some of my colleagues from Merkel land, (if rumors are to be believed.)
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Old 19th Aug 2017, 06:35
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If rumors are to be believed not just Germans.... some captains from south of the Equator and from across the Atlantic are in the wrong seat.
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Old 23rd Aug 2017, 12:01
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Sorry, not specific to Saudia, ....but anyone have any insight into a VVIP Riyadh based A320 which is currently recruiting.
Thanks.
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Old 25th Aug 2017, 11:59
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https://www.ch-aviation.com/portal/n...rcraft-an-a320
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Old 27th Aug 2017, 10:23
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I wonder how it'll be before Saudia begins the process of migrating it's unprofitable domestic and near region routes to the much lower cost base LCC FlyAdeal? Not long now, I would Imagine?
Doesn't that go against the concept of having an airline that doesn't need government subsidies? A lot of the loss making routes are fare controlled by government rules.
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Old 28th Aug 2017, 07:25
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So why aren't these routes working for Saudi Gulf? If rumours are to be believed they are suffering.
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Old 28th Aug 2017, 14:04
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Originally Posted by VAMY View Post
Those loss making routes that you mention that are presently "fare controlled" are likely unprofitable because of Saudia's ridiculous high cost base. If moved to a carrier with a dramatically lower cost base those routes will likely generate a profit. That'll be the rationale behind moving them to FlyAdeal.
Presently domestic flights become really "fare controlled" by competitors, not by government.
Compare base fares for some main domestic routes, e.g. JED-RUH for any date after Hajj:
Nesma - 190SR ~42EUR which can cover an A320 seat cost for 1:45 hour flight (I compare with W6 or FR numbers)
Nasair - 250SR
Gulfair - 306SR
Saudia - 339SR

Anyway, what then will happen with Saudia's ridiculous high cost base which will remain in main company?
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Old 31st Aug 2017, 13:26
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Vamy
Are you sure you got the right bloke???
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Old 1st Sep 2017, 12:26
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Vamy,

1) Definitely correct, cost base is ridiculous.

2) As for the other guy, this is more than "skeletons in the closet", a DUI, job termination or a violation. This particular guy is accused of spending time in a Sri Lankan prison for claiming Skipper qualifications when he never actually possessed them. It is well documented on the internet with a search of the name.
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Old 1st Sep 2017, 15:56
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Now the crew hotels are being requested for a new contract without uniform laundry and breakfast to lower costs!
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Old 2nd Sep 2017, 14:23
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Originally Posted by Flyboy_SG View Post
Now the crew hotels are being requested for a new contract without uniform laundry and breakfast to lower costs!
That did not take long to end up on PPRuNe, just saw the emails a few hours ago, YYZ and IAD is official, no more breakfast and laundry.
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Old 4th Sep 2017, 17:05
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This particular guy is accused of spending time in a Sri Lankan prison for claiming Skipper qualifications when he never actually possessed them. It is well documented on the internet with a search of the name.

hahahaha I remember him so very well....and yes, a recent search produced a very interesting article about this fellow in the Chicago Tribune 1994

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Old 5th Sep 2017, 05:18
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As you can see this is already begun to happen with the breakfast and laundry being removed from the Saudia hotel contracts.
This these extras have any effect on hotel cost or were they "thrown in" by the hotels to get the contracts, as were suites at one stage.
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