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Old 19th October 2017 | 17:35
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I don't think that the 20/10 has only 5 days in a row, most probably it'll be just like every other 20/10 like Ethiopian for example, 20 work days and 10 consecutive days off, or 25/12, otherwise it makes no sense.
The fact that they moved people without any other choice is not the best way of doing things and most probably, the guys in RUH will also lose all the nice long flights like YYZ MAD MAN and others and most probably sooner or later they will leave.
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Old 19th October 2017 | 23:37
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Jack, they cover the 20/10 schedule using accrued vacation days. People taking the 20/10 don't get an annual 30 day vacation. That leave is basically broken up and distributed on a monthly basis to cover the 20/10 schedule. If a pilot has no accrued leave in the "bank", then the company will replace those "off" days with work days / reserve.
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Old 20th October 2017 | 06:03
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The 20/10 roster is another thing actually, let me make the same example, in Ethiopia you join directly with 20 work days 10 off days, accrued leave has nothing to do, in the 20/10 there’s no leave anyways.
If you divide 30/12 is 2.5 days, the rest is 7.5.
It’s a strange 20/10 then, not attractive at all and you still lose the best flight.... We’ll see the result.
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Old 20th October 2017 | 08:25
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Originally Posted by Jack330
It’s a strange 20/10 then, not attractive at all and you still lose the best flight.... We’ll see the result.
Yes... It is strange,
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Old 20th October 2017 | 12:29
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Apparently some were given just two weeks notice. Even those who have the apartments. It would take at least three months for the lines and the Ruh base to get stabilized imho.

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Old 28th October 2017 | 12:29
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The only thing I can say with complete confidence is that if the company does not start 20/10 for the expats IMMEDIATELY on their arrival into Riyadh, there won't be even 10 percent expats left in Saudia within 3 months. IF EVEN 10 percent !
Because the ONLY reason that each and every expat is moving to Riyadh is the fact that he gets to meet his family for 10 days every month. You take that away and you have nothing.
So if Saudia wants to keep the fleet afloat I feel they should hold up their end of the bargain.
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Old 28th October 2017 | 19:05
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But even with the 10 days off we are hearing stories of mass resignations as those with families in Jeddah or those chasing maximum cash are unhappy.
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Old 30th October 2017 | 09:54
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Getting 20/10 if your family is in Jeddah is as useful as an umbrella in a desert.
And by right, all expats posted to Riyadh have to accept 20/10 ( I could be wrong here).
Which means that even though the forced Riyadh transfer may have been barely acceptable, the 20/10 and consequential salary loss would not !
Thus the 50-60 resignations ...
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Old 30th October 2017 | 11:40
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Originally Posted by Top gun pilot 797
And by right, all expats posted to Riyadh have to accept 20/10 ( I could be wrong here).

Not true for 320 fleet.
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Old 30th October 2017 | 12:54
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Sorry, I should have added, no one know for sure yet. The 320 folks are more worried on there not being enough 20/10 lines. Everything is rumour at this point, no one is particularly happy.
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Old 31st October 2017 | 23:17
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Time to bail out.
For all ....!!!
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Old 1st November 2017 | 09:05
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From: ...second left, past the lights.
Many have, are about to or are planning to!
Not many contract renewals taken up for the non-disclosed; unclear & ambiguous "new contract". Those that have are fully utilising the 2 months notice period. It appears SV are about to have a very serious crew shortage issue but are blinded by their fracture & poor mismanagement & arogance.
Last one, turn out the lights please.
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Old 2nd November 2017 | 23:07
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20-10 is offered only to the expats who have leave balance. Else 5 days off + 5 days reserve.


We got to wait and watch the game, local cadet induction, fleet transfers and upgrades are going in full swing though.
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Old 3rd November 2017 | 05:28
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Who is going to fly the -8F? Regular crews or contracted?
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Old 3rd November 2017 | 13:24
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Any truth to the rumour that contracts are not being renewed for the over 58's? And that any contract renewal now is only for 1 year?

In line with full saudiization by the end of 2020.
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Old 3rd November 2017 | 16:59
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Originally Posted by kungfu panda
Any truth to the rumour that contracts are not being renewed for the over 58's? And that any contract renewal now is only for 1 year?

In line with full saudiization by the end of 2020.
The Rumor is a Fact!!!
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Old 4th November 2017 | 06:56
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Now I remember why I hate consultants.
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Old 4th November 2017 | 19:44
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A Yemeni long range ballistic missle fires at the Riyadh Airport.
Apparently intercepted by the Saudi defense system. But pics/bp videos on ground and blasts heard say otherwise.
Looks like it made a hit on the remote bays ... ��
Too army however to tell yet.
But I think this is a sign from the heavens ... ☠️
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Old 5th November 2017 | 12:02
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Too early however to tell yet.
But I think this is a sign from the heavens
FIFY

And the Crown Prince has fired half the KSA Govt & the Lebanese PM has resigned ( in Riyadh) ----- we do live in interesting times. Stay safe you guys who have to go there
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Old 5th November 2017 | 20:20
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Seems that there is major turmoil in the country.

Any impact (yet?) on day to day operations
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