Gulf Air Developments
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(best solution is let gf roster only locals to iraq-brassplate)thats exactly what u wrote rustplate! i work for the national airline i do not own it!!
and yes i do not mind flyin there! i am more worried about the state of the planes we fly!
enjoy talkin to management,forgot to tell u,first flight is a320,majority of the flights to bag. are 330/340 hope u guys have a nice trip down there!
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For those who actually think this is a safety issue and are concerned then we should write letters, call and have meeting with our Fleet Managers and Chief Pilots as professionals
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well my vote is to "yes" start the flight already...hopefully nothing bad will happen...if the US army refueling planes are not in danger so why cant GF planes be in danger?
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Trade unions, now that is an OXY MORON.
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Lets see who has the BALLS to go to the CEO and pilots meeting on the 12th of August from 17:00-19:00. It's at HQ Gulf Air. And those that make the biggest Stink here on the rumor channel and who happen to be on "Fantasy" Island should put up or shut up !
Just my two cents.
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Lets see who has the BALLS to go to the CEO and pilots meeting on the 12th of August from 17:00-19:00. It's at HQ Gulf Air. And those that make the biggest Stink here on the rumor channel and who happen to be on "Fantasy" Island should put up or shut up !
Just my two cents.
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that's nice
Gulf air would have some help in carrying some pax to Baghdad.I have just two more questions . why it isn't it safe for GF to fly to Iraq but it is safe for the RJ to fly there? why would the rebals try to fire missils at GF and not at the US militarys refeuling aircrafts which land at that airport?
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tristarfivestar, your cover is blown! "Rebals" shooting at "refeuling" aircrafts is just pi$$ poor spelling but what really identified you as uglyfcuk is the crap you are posting so please just go away!
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no such official invitation, buddy. are you sure this is not a ploy to get ppuners identified when they turn up? if it is, you are obviously management. if not, then maybe not all are invited.
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you must be ugly read! reflecting your insecurities . i am new to this forum try not to take the advantage.You should look at you spellings first. I would not advice you to attend the meeting.brass plate is right its just a plan to identify the pprune users.If they really wanted to invite you,you all would receive emails or some message from "hello gulf air"
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hope every one finds this article useful
National carrier Gulf Air has upgraded its flight safety standards by acquiring an integrated state-of –the-art Flight Data Monitoring (FDM) system, also known as Flight Operation Quality Assurance (Foqa) system.
The airline has recently signed a three year partnership with Austin Digital, Texas, USA - a leading Foqa provider – to implement the complete infrastructure at Gulf Air headquarters.
FDM is the systematic and pro-active use of digital flight data from routine operations that helps an airline to improve its fleet safety. It is a well accepted and mandatory part of today’s safety management systems in global aviation industry.
“Gulf Air has a well-established Accident Prevention and Flight Safety Program and regularly upgrades its systems and procedures so that it maintains the highest flight safety standards,” said Gulf Air chief operating officer Capt Chris Cain.
“The new integrated FDM system offers a robust and sophisticated functionality to analyse and optimise our daily flight operations helping us increase our fleet’s technical dispatch reliability.
“The system also offers remote access to in-flight data that facilitates a more efficient maintenance planning and in our daily aircraft system’s troubleshooting processes. Furthermore, the service offers a solid basis for additional financial savings in the fields of guarantees and warranties, ATC charges, fuel savings, etc,” he added.
Besides setting up and implementing the FDM service, Austin Digital will also provide continuous support to technical system operation and flight safety/flight operations efficiency know-how after completion of the project
The airline has recently signed a three year partnership with Austin Digital, Texas, USA - a leading Foqa provider – to implement the complete infrastructure at Gulf Air headquarters.
FDM is the systematic and pro-active use of digital flight data from routine operations that helps an airline to improve its fleet safety. It is a well accepted and mandatory part of today’s safety management systems in global aviation industry.
“Gulf Air has a well-established Accident Prevention and Flight Safety Program and regularly upgrades its systems and procedures so that it maintains the highest flight safety standards,” said Gulf Air chief operating officer Capt Chris Cain.
“The new integrated FDM system offers a robust and sophisticated functionality to analyse and optimise our daily flight operations helping us increase our fleet’s technical dispatch reliability.
“The system also offers remote access to in-flight data that facilitates a more efficient maintenance planning and in our daily aircraft system’s troubleshooting processes. Furthermore, the service offers a solid basis for additional financial savings in the fields of guarantees and warranties, ATC charges, fuel savings, etc,” he added.
Besides setting up and implementing the FDM service, Austin Digital will also provide continuous support to technical system operation and flight safety/flight operations efficiency know-how after completion of the project
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i think you are management, tristarfivestar aka uglyraedII. and you are an absolute twit.
whatever safety is in place (fdm, foqa blah blah blah) for gf, nothing can stop someone from launching something at the aircraft during approach or departure as was the case for that dhl a300....unless you want to add flares or ground to air missile countermeasures to the fleet.
has gf thought out what would happen to the crew if an aircraft went tech on the ground at baghdad or najaf? how is fdm or foqa gonna save your @rse if some group decides to have a go at the airport? they are still out there by the hundreds maybe thousands and still killing hundreds by the week
this other line about 'other airlines' operating there already is cheap. only desperate airlines are operating there. the worst bit is that management once again wants to cover up their incompetence at running an airline by trying to make a quick buck out of iraq.....at the expense of the lives of the crew.
there was already a brief regarding overflights over iraqi airspace, the inherent dangers, the unavailability of suitable 'safe' alternates especially from within iraq, and now this...a complete 'u' turn, reversing all that [email protected] saying overnight, that's it safe safe safe safe safe and....safe.
when management does that, it only reinforces further their idiocy, their incompetence, their lack of regard to their own safety standards, and their lack of regard of you and me!
my fellow crew members, this is what we are facing. idiots who play with our lives while they sit on their safe and comfortable armchairs in their safe and comfortable offices.
whatever safety is in place (fdm, foqa blah blah blah) for gf, nothing can stop someone from launching something at the aircraft during approach or departure as was the case for that dhl a300....unless you want to add flares or ground to air missile countermeasures to the fleet.
has gf thought out what would happen to the crew if an aircraft went tech on the ground at baghdad or najaf? how is fdm or foqa gonna save your @rse if some group decides to have a go at the airport? they are still out there by the hundreds maybe thousands and still killing hundreds by the week
this other line about 'other airlines' operating there already is cheap. only desperate airlines are operating there. the worst bit is that management once again wants to cover up their incompetence at running an airline by trying to make a quick buck out of iraq.....at the expense of the lives of the crew.
there was already a brief regarding overflights over iraqi airspace, the inherent dangers, the unavailability of suitable 'safe' alternates especially from within iraq, and now this...a complete 'u' turn, reversing all that [email protected] saying overnight, that's it safe safe safe safe safe and....safe.
when management does that, it only reinforces further their idiocy, their incompetence, their lack of regard to their own safety standards, and their lack of regard of you and me!
my fellow crew members, this is what we are facing. idiots who play with our lives while they sit on their safe and comfortable armchairs in their safe and comfortable offices.
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well i am not convinced. I think it is a great idea for GF to fly to Iraq.It would be better if you(brass plate) would be a bit kind to all the pprune users. Give respect to receive respect. And why are you all calling me uglyread?
is that a word in arabic?
is that a word in arabic?
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tristarfivestar: brass may be a bit hard but what he says does have some merit. all u seem to say is it is a great idea. please quantify. why? other than yields. please outline how gf has guaranteed my safety. have we hired independent security not from iraq for the aircraft and crew? have we solved any approach issues? what about my life insurance? have we solved any problems regarding actually staying there? you know it is amusing to me that people actually say things and are obviously oblivious to the real issues. facts are that no one knows what GF has done regarding any of these issues. so please dont tell me how safe it is. GF has failed to produce its crew with any assurances or detailed information for me to even consider operations. it is hard to fathom working for an airline that is not even capable of basic communication. now we have announced these routes we(the crews) are already behind in knowledge and have to dig our way out in hopes of finding some safe solution or middle ground. does that sound like pro active management to u? Anyways that is my rant and I am sticking with it. More communication and professionalism is required before you declare Iraq safe. P.S since u seem to be so educated on safety of Iraq I am sure that there are many great companies looking in Iraq for your wonderful skillset. I wonder if you would take your family? answer to that kind of sums this all up
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you make a great point
as the employees of GF,it is your right to ask the management what safety precautions they have taken..there is a possibility that they are keeping some security measures confidential as the information may be misused if placed in the wrong hands.
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Meeting is on the 18 Aug. I guess we shall see what the new CEO has to say but I don't think it will be anything we haven't heard before. Although deep down I really do want GF to be back up where it belongs. Maybe the pieces of the puzzle are slowly coming into place. Chairman of the board is a top class guy with the know how to get things done, now let's hope the CEO is of the same caliber. But then again maybe I am just dreaming!
